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Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: T-Town Now on July 28, 2008, 11:15:18 AM
What agency is responsible for enforcing the "No smoking within x feet of door" policy? I have a few people in my office building that habitually stand by the front door to smoke. They do this because they are sheltered from the sun, rain, wind, etc.

I understand their need for shelter, but their actions force people to walk through their smoke. This morning, I was leaving the building and one of the smokers tossed their cigarette butt down on the sidwalk in front of the building, barely missing me when he did it. He apologized, but I've had enough.

The sidewalk and curbs are littered with their discarded butts, and I want someone official to put a stop to it.

Who do I call?
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: okcpulse on July 28, 2008, 11:23:02 AM
Smokers are the new rejects of the 21st Century.  It's pathetic when last year outside of Memorial Hermann Hospital in The Woodlands, TX, I'd see people in their hospital gowns dragging their IVs outside with them to have a smoke.  What a joke

Heh, pathetic
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Gold on July 28, 2008, 11:38:30 AM
I have the same problem.  I'm highly allergic to smoke and beyond that I can't stand sharing an elevator with someone who smells of cancer sticks.

Not so long ago, I got on an elevator with a smoker -- I was eating a granola bar for breakfast and she was making fun of my "healthy breakfast."  I had some words for her.

My guess is that TPD has bigger fish to fry than criminal smokers, though it seems like they'd be easy to nab from their office at 6th and Main.  Maybe it will give the horsey cops, who show up on the Main Mall area a couple of times a year for no reason, something to do.

The easiest things you can do are complain to the building manager or just confront the offenders.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Hoss on July 28, 2008, 11:43:11 AM
Many of you make good points, but keep in mind that smoking is an addiction.

Have any of you ever been addicted to anything?  I'm not talking just the regular vices.  Anything?

Usually the most vehement people speaking out about smokers are reformed former smokers (I'm in that category).  I don't bother people too much if they're smoking, because I know how incredibly difficult it is to quit.  It took me three tries and I finally quit in January of 2007.

So before you spout off to people, remember that at one point, they never smoked.  Some of our vices might be ice cream, might be fast food, some like to smoke pipes (I still do this on occasion because I like the smell of pipe smoke; my ex-wife did too).
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Hoss on July 28, 2008, 11:44:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

Smokers are the new rejects of the 21st Century.  It's pathetic when last year outside of Memorial Hermann Hospital in The Woodlands, TX, I'd see people in their hospital gowns dragging their IVs outside with them to have a smoke.  What a joke

Heh, pathetic



And you've never been addicted to anything?  See my post above.  [:O]
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: carltonplace on July 28, 2008, 11:46:11 AM
Is the door clearly marked with a no smoking sign? Has another spot been designated for this purpose that is protected from the elements and not too far to reach during a 15 minute break? Has everyone in the building been made aware of the accommodations and the no smoking policy by the entryway?

I'm certain that if there were an alternate, dedicated smoking place that it would be employed. I doubt that the offenders are doing this maliciously, they just don't have anywhere else to go.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: RecycleMichael on July 28, 2008, 11:50:12 AM
Get a big swimming pool "noodle". You know, those long cylinder foam things. Wrap it in inside-out wrapping paper, then tape some brown wrapping tape about the last foot or so. It will look just like a really big cigarette.

Then beat them smokers with it till they move.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: dsjeffries on July 28, 2008, 11:57:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

Many of you make good points, but keep in mind that smoking is an addiction.

Have any of you ever been addicted to anything?  I'm not talking just the regular vices.  Anything?

Usually the most vehement people speaking out about smokers are reformed former smokers (I'm in that category).  I don't bother people too much if they're smoking, because I know how incredibly difficult it is to quit.  It took me three tries and I finally quit in January of 2007.

So before you spout off to people, remember that at one point, they never smoked.  Some of our vices might be ice cream, might be fast food, some like to smoke pipes (I still do this on occasion because I like the smell of pipe smoke; my ex-wife did too).



Hoss, no one said that smoking wasn't addictive.  Everyone knows that people just die for the 200+ carcinogens and nicotine. [;)]

The point is, addiction or not, they should be considerate of other people.  Go ahead and be addicted, but be addicted somewhere else where it won't affect all the non-addicts.

Are drunks allowed to spew liquor on people as they enter or exit buildings? Nope.  
Are chocolate cake addicts allowed to throw cake on people or shove it down their throat as they enter or exit a building? Nope.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: cannon_fodder on July 28, 2008, 12:55:30 PM
I say you buy a used CO2 container ($20).  Paint it with a "DANGER NOS" sign and some skull and crossbones.  Carry it with you conspicuously and act really nervous if you see any flame.

It is people being inconsiderate.  Not sure why they do not realize how rude it is, but many do not.  There are other smokers who take notice of other people and try not to offend them.

Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: T-Town Now on July 28, 2008, 02:19:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by carltonplace

Is the door clearly marked with a no smoking sign? Has another spot been designated for this purpose that is protected from the elements and not too far to reach during a 15 minute break? Has everyone in the building been made aware of the accommodations and the no smoking policy by the entryway?

I'm certain that if there were an alternate, dedicated smoking place that it would be employed. I doubt that the offenders are doing this maliciously, they just don't have anywhere else to go.



Yes, the door is clearly marked with the no smoking sign at eye level, and further the words, "This is a smoke free facility" appear on one of the windows.

I guess I'll just complain to building management and see if they'll address the issue. Having to walk through the discarded butts in not a good first impression for visitors to the building.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: TeeDub on July 28, 2008, 02:32:58 PM

Do you whine about smokers when you go to a bar as well?  

Here is the law, maybe you can call the police.   I am sure they would gladly write tickets to keep you from having to endure that brief split second of smelling smoke when you are going in and out of work.
http://www.ok.gov/breatheeasyok/documents/Oklahoma%20Laws%20on%20Secondhand%20Smoke%20effective%20Nov%201%202007.pdf
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: MDepr2007 on July 28, 2008, 02:55:18 PM
Perfume and cologne can give me more longer lasting observed problems . You think walking past a few smockers is bad. Try riding an elevator next to someone wearing perfume that is too strong and they put extra on[:O]
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: RecycleMichael on July 28, 2008, 03:00:37 PM
"Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life."

Brooke Shields (during an interview to become spokesperson for a federal anti-smoking campaign)
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: MDepr2007 on July 28, 2008, 03:09:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

"Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life."

Brooke Shields (during an interview to become spokesperson for a federal anti-smoking campaign)


So does peanuts and plastic bottles , which deserves more attention?
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Conan71 on July 28, 2008, 04:23:23 PM
Ex nicotine addict chiming in, seven months nicotine free-

There is a certain elitist behavior in some smokers who go out of their way to irritate non-smokers.  I've done it myself in the past and I have friends who still do it on a regular basis.  

There is one friend I won't ride with in his car anymore because he feels the need to light up as soon as he's in the vehicle.  Fine, his vehicle, he can do what he wants, but common courtesy would be not to smoke in a confined space with non-smokers.

Smoking and flicking the butts on the ground screams: "I'm a sloppy pig".  Why do smokers expect everyone else to clean up after them?  When I smoked, I at least had the common courtesy to properly pitch my butts.  

Smoking is finally becoming a minority.  Far less harm is put upon smokers by non-smokers than smokers do for everyone else.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: FOTD on July 28, 2008, 05:26:37 PM
In Cali, the population cracks down on tobacco smoking. But not the herb. The accused probably carries a medical marijauna card....see Dr. Kush in this weeks New Yorker or just watch "weeds".
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: inteller on July 28, 2008, 05:57:10 PM
while we are at it, the city employees need to figure out that 25 feet from the entrance, doesn't mean "right around the corner".  Before those dregs moved in I always saw smokers ACROSS THE STREET smoking.  now they are just right outside the entrance at the corner of the building.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: bugo on July 28, 2008, 06:36:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TeeDub


Do you whine about smokers when you go to a bar as well?  

Here is the law, maybe you can call the police.   I am sure they would gladly write tickets to keep you from having to endure that brief split second of smelling smoke when you are going in and out of work.



You may laugh and make fun, but even one single breath of second hand smoke can cause headaches and nausea to us non-smokers.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: nathanm on July 28, 2008, 08:29:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by bugo


You may laugh and make fun, but even one single breath of second hand smoke can cause headaches and nausea to us non-smokers.


As does walking down the aisle in the grocery store that has the laundry items and other fragrant crap. (Or smelling someone who has over-applied perfume or cologne)

For me, a former smoker, cigarette smoke is far more benign than most strong fragrances.

Either way, there are a lot of a-hole smokers, but there's at least as many a-hole nonsmokers. Yet another area in which we seem to be unable to be tolerant of the choices of others.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Conan71 on July 29, 2008, 09:37:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by nathanm



Either way, there are a lot of a-hole smokers, but there's at least as many a-hole nonsmokers. Yet another area in which we seem to be unable to be tolerant of the choices of others.



True, but consider that smoking around folks who would prefer not to breathe it is far more of an imposition than my non-smoking.  When I was taking Chantix, I definitely fit in the category of a-hole non-smoker.  That made me very hyper-sensitive to smoke. [;)]

About the only smoking bar I'll go to anymore is Arnie's and that's getting fewer and further between visits.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: TURobY on July 29, 2008, 09:43:51 AM
I used Chantix to quit as well. But I didn't have any trouble being around other smokers. I still enjoy the smell...
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Jammie on July 29, 2008, 10:13:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I say you buy a used CO2 container ($20).  Paint it with a "DANGER NOS" sign and some skull and crossbones.  Carry it with you conspicuously and act really nervous if you see any flame.

It is people being inconsiderate.  Not sure why they do not realize how rude it is, but many do not.  There are other smokers who take notice of other people and try not to offend them.





No, drunks just get into their car and go out and kill others instantly.

Smoking is an addiction and it's been proven that some people have a gene that makes it very difficult for them to quit. It's sad that some smokers can't be more respectful to others, but being compassionate towards others is always an attribute.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Conan71 on July 29, 2008, 10:24:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

I used Chantix to quit as well. But I didn't have any trouble being around other smokers. I still enjoy the smell...



Chantix messed with me pretty well.  One of my friends said I was the only person she knew who could tolerate it for longer than three weeks.  I actually quit smoking over three years ago, I continued to use smokeless tobacco and nic gum until December.

All better now, but I still had some after effects up to about a month ago.  No cravings and I've got a lot of incentive never to start up again.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Gold on July 29, 2008, 10:25:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Jammie

quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I say you buy a used CO2 container ($20).  Paint it with a "DANGER NOS" sign and some skull and crossbones.  Carry it with you conspicuously and act really nervous if you see any flame.

It is people being inconsiderate.  Not sure why they do not realize how rude it is, but many do not.  There are other smokers who take notice of other people and try not to offend them.





No, drunks just get into their car and go out and kill others instantly.

Smoking is an addiction and it's been proven that some people have a gene that makes it very difficult for them to quit. It's sad that some smokers can't be more respectful to others, but being compassionate towards others is always an attribute.



In this case, it's also the law not to smoke in front of doors.  I'd love to see TPD endorce this one day.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: TURobY on July 29, 2008, 10:31:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

I used Chantix to quit as well. But I didn't have any trouble being around other smokers. I still enjoy the smell...



Chantix messed with me pretty well.  One of my friends said I was the only person she knew who could tolerate it for longer than three weeks.  I actually quit smoking over three years ago, I continued to use smokeless tobacco and nic gum until December.

All better now, but I still had some after effects up to about a month ago.  No cravings and I've got a lot of incentive never to start up again.




Both I and my partner had successfully quit within three weeks of our first pill. We tried patches, which I responded to positively, but they didn't seem to work on him.

As far as any side-effects of the pill, neither of us experienced anything. We did, however, both gain 40 pounds each after quitting. LOL.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Hoss on July 29, 2008, 10:39:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

I used Chantix to quit as well. But I didn't have any trouble being around other smokers. I still enjoy the smell...



Chantix messed with me pretty well.  One of my friends said I was the only person she knew who could tolerate it for longer than three weeks.  I actually quit smoking over three years ago, I continued to use smokeless tobacco and nic gum until December.

All better now, but I still had some after effects up to about a month ago.  No cravings and I've got a lot of incentive never to start up again.




I actually used the Commit lozenge; it helped me a great deal to quit even though they were quite expensive.  I thought about Chantix, but my brother tried it for about three weeks and stopped.  It gave him horrible migraines almost every other day.  Unfortunately he still smokes, but not like he used to.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Conan71 on July 29, 2008, 10:58:48 AM
Tales of Chantix are mixed.  The vulture attorneys are circling due to "evidence" of suicides of people who took it.  Last I looked, back around March, something like 44 people in 2.5 million who had taken it had killed themselves.  I'd think that would be about the average for suicides, period.

It may have had more to do with how long I was on nicotine and how much I consumed every day.  Then again, psychotropics affect everyone different.  I would not tell someone else not to take Chantix as it does work.

Just glad it's in my past.  I applaud anyone who has quit, and encourage anyone who wants to.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Conan71 on July 29, 2008, 11:01:21 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

I used Chantix to quit as well. But I didn't have any trouble being around other smokers. I still enjoy the smell...



Chantix messed with me pretty well.  One of my friends said I was the only person she knew who could tolerate it for longer than three weeks.  I actually quit smoking over three years ago, I continued to use smokeless tobacco and nic gum until December.

All better now, but I still had some after effects up to about a month ago.  No cravings and I've got a lot of incentive never to start up again.




Both I and my partner had successfully quit within three weeks of our first pill. We tried patches, which I responded to positively, but they didn't seem to work on him.

As far as any side-effects of the pill, neither of us experienced anything. We did, however, both gain 40 pounds each after quitting. LOL.



I lost about 15 lbs when I was on Chantix due to nerves.  Then my doc put me on something else to curb those symptoms and I gained 20 lbs.  Sugar cravings at midnight are rough on my figure! [;)]

Now with rowing, biking, yoga, and watching what I eat (and being off all meds) I'm back down 14 lbs and counting.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Hoss on July 29, 2008, 11:04:55 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Tales of Chantix are mixed.  The vulture attorneys are circling due to "evidence" of suicides of people who took it.  Last I looked, back around March, something like 44 people in 2.5 million who had taken it had killed themselves.  I'd think that would be about the average for suicides, period.

It may have had more to do with how long I was on nicotine and how much I consumed every day.  Then again, psychotropics affect everyone different.  I would not tell someone else not to take Chantix as it does work.

Just glad it's in my past.  I applaud anyone who has quit, and encourage anyone who wants to.




Likewise.

And, just curious, how many packs a day were you smoking at your peak?  I never got to more than a little over a pack a day and I was smoking either lights or ultralights (not that it makes much difference).  I know people that smoked three and four packs a day and wondered how they could do it, even when I was still smoking.

I was proud of myself quitting before I turned 40.  That was a goal I made the previous year and to actually say I did it was very gratifying.  I did gain about 15 pounds, but I have a thyroid condition and my weight fluctuates anyway.  Damn heredity.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Michael71 on July 29, 2008, 11:05:52 AM
I have yet to see someone "highly allergic" to cigarette smoke...they just don't like the smell.

If you were highly allergic, you would walk everywhere very conscious of your surroundings.

Don't judge unless you've been in their shoes.  It is a hard habit to break.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: cannon_fodder on July 29, 2008, 11:08:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MichaelWayne_71


Don't judge unless you've been in their shoes.  It is a hard habit to break.



Many of the posters HAVE been in their shoes.

Also, what is the hard habit to break?  Being a smoker or being a jerk?  The two are not mutually INCLUSIVE.  Many people smoke and make a point to be considerate of others.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: TURobY on July 29, 2008, 11:09:00 AM
He was a pack-a-day smoker. I smoked 4/5th of a pack.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Hoss on July 29, 2008, 11:10:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MichaelWayne_71

I have yet to see someone "highly allergic" to cigarette smoke...they just don't like the smell.

If you were highly allergic, you would walk everywhere very conscious of your surroundings.

Don't judge unless you've been in their shoes.  It is a hard habit to break.



Thanks.

I will tell a story though.

I have season tickets to hockey; I sit down near the glass.  Last year during me quitting, I remember a group of kids coming in and sitting behind us..maybe about six of them.  They reeked of cig smoke.  I thought to myself 'Damn, is that what I smell like'.  That was a big turning point in my decision to really quit.  It's nice now to know that when I wash my clothes at the house, they're going to no longer smell like smoke and detergent, but just detergent.

Be compassionate towards them, but encourage them if they want to quit.  You can't make them quit.  And usually, if you don't seem like you're acting empowered because 'well, I don't smoke and you do, you're nasty' and ask someone politely to move, most of the time you'll find that smokers are accomodating.  What we didn't/don't like were people like the OP complaining without actually addressing the problem first-hand with the offenders.

Smokers aren't evil.  Keep this in mind.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Conan71 on July 29, 2008, 12:13:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Tales of Chantix are mixed.  The vulture attorneys are circling due to "evidence" of suicides of people who took it.  Last I looked, back around March, something like 44 people in 2.5 million who had taken it had killed themselves.  I'd think that would be about the average for suicides, period.

It may have had more to do with how long I was on nicotine and how much I consumed every day.  Then again, psychotropics affect everyone different.  I would not tell someone else not to take Chantix as it does work.

Just glad it's in my past.  I applaud anyone who has quit, and encourage anyone who wants to.




Likewise.

And, just curious, how many packs a day were you smoking at your peak?  I never got to more than a little over a pack a day and I was smoking either lights or ultralights (not that it makes much difference).  I know people that smoked three and four packs a day and wondered how they could do it, even when I was still smoking.

I was proud of myself quitting before I turned 40.  That was a goal I made the previous year and to actually say I did it was very gratifying.  I did gain about 15 pounds, but I have a thyroid condition and my weight fluctuates anyway.  Damn heredity.



Hoss,

Pack to a little over a pack.  I went back and forth from smoking to dipping over the years (sometimes I was doing both).  Collectively, I used for about 28 to 30 years, the last 17 years straight without ever quitting.  After I quit smoking for good, I was going through a can of Red Seal tobacco about every 2.5 to 3 days.  Not a heavy user, but my pattern was to take a dip after breakfast, add to it till lunch, spit it out, eat, put a dip in, add till dinner, etc.

When I was using smokeless, I basically had a main-line all my waking hours other than eating.  If I was in a situation where I could not dip, I'd chew nicotine gum.

After the Chantix removed any pleasure center stimulation, the smokeless tobacco made me sick to my stomach.  It made me realize how much crap and poison is in tobacco.  Great reinforcement, IMO.  I continued to dip for about 11 or 12 days after starting the Chantix.

Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: T-Town Now on July 29, 2008, 01:17:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TeeDub


Do you whine about smokers when you go to a bar as well?  

Here is the law, maybe you can call the police.   I am sure they would gladly write tickets to keep you from having to endure that brief split second of smelling smoke when you are going in and out of work.
http://www.ok.gov/breatheeasyok/documents/Oklahoma%20Laws%20on%20Secondhand%20Smoke%20effective%20Nov%201%202007.pdf




Some people are allergic to cigarette smoke, and it makes them sick. People with attitudes like yours are responsible for much of the rudeness and ignorance in the world today.

Inhale deep.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Michael71 on July 29, 2008, 02:25:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

quote:
Originally posted by MichaelWayne_71


Don't judge unless you've been in their shoes.  It is a hard habit to break.



Also, what is the hard habit to break?  Being a smoker or being a jerk?  The two are not mutually INCLUSIVE.  Many people smoke and make a point to be considerate of others.



Obviously, quitting smoking is the habit that is hard to break.  It seems, however...that some people DO think that they're "mutually INCLUSIVE".  My point is that their intent(with exceptions) is not to be rude to anyone else.

CarltonPlace seems to have gotten it right.  See his first post.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: TeeDub on July 29, 2008, 04:45:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by T-Town Now


Some people are allergic to cigarette smoke, and it makes them sick. People with attitudes like yours are responsible for much of the rudeness and ignorance in the world today.

Inhale deep.




Oh high and mighty one, please let me bow down before you.  

And if you tell me which building you are in, I will gladly come smoke outside of it.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Gold on July 29, 2008, 05:00:28 PM
I'll gladly tell you off and call the cops or security if you do that at my building.[8D]
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: mrB on July 30, 2008, 05:30:09 AM
It's an addiction!

It's your addiction not mine!



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Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Sangria on July 30, 2008, 06:45:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MichaelWayne_71

I have yet to see someone "highly allergic" to cigarette smoke...they just don't like the smell.

If you were highly allergic, you would walk everywhere very conscious of your surroundings.

Don't judge unless you've been in their shoes.  It is a hard habit to break.



I used to be in their shoes - I smoked for a long time. I quit when I had kids. Just put them down and walked away. Sure, I had cravings but there were other things more important.

After having the kids I became allergic to not only cigarette smoke but most strong perfumes and fragrances. THEY STEAL MY BREATH.

I can't go into stores that use the funky air fresheners, candle isles etc... Women who refuse to take a bath and wear a bottle of perfume at a time are just as bad as smokers.

I can't be close to someone who smells like smoke - again, the odor steals my breath.

The solution would be to paint no smoking parameters by doors. Then the building security can enforce it.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Conan71 on July 30, 2008, 02:54:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Sangria

quote:
Originally posted by MichaelWayne_71

I have yet to see someone "highly allergic" to cigarette smoke...they just don't like the smell.

If you were highly allergic, you would walk everywhere very conscious of your surroundings.

Don't judge unless you've been in their shoes.  It is a hard habit to break.



I used to be in their shoes - I smoked for a long time. I quit when I had kids. Just put them down and walked away. Sure, I had cravings but there were other things more important.

After having the kids I became allergic to not only cigarette smoke but most strong perfumes and fragrances. THEY STEAL MY BREATH.

I can't go into stores that use the funky air fresheners, candle isles etc... Women who refuse to take a bath and wear a bottle of perfume at a time are just as bad as smokers.

I can't be close to someone who smells like smoke - again, the odor steals my breath.

The solution would be to paint no smoking parameters by doors. Then the building security can enforce it.



Interesting you mention that.  Whenever I walk into Wal-Mart Market at 21st & Yale, the deli section is right inside the entrance.  There is always an odor of burned fried food, and I can't breathe properly until I get further away from it into the produce section.

Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Michael71 on July 30, 2008, 02:54:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Sangria

quote:
Originally posted by MichaelWayne_71

I have yet to see someone "highly allergic" to cigarette smoke...they just don't like the smell.




I used to be in their shoes - I smoked for a long time. I quit when I had kids, etc...

After having the kids I became allergic to not only cigarette smoke but most strong perfumes and fragrances. THEY STEAL MY BREATH.

I can't go into stores that use the funky air fresheners, candle isles etc... Women who refuse to take a bath and wear a bottle of perfume at a time are just as bad as smokers.




Emphysema...or allergy?
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: T-Town Now on July 30, 2008, 03:34:06 PM
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Originally posted by TeeDub

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Originally posted by T-Town Now


Some people are allergic to cigarette smoke, and it makes them sick. People with attitudes like yours are responsible for much of the rudeness and ignorance in the world today.

Inhale deep.




Oh high and mighty one, please let me bow down before you.  

And if you tell me which building you are in, I will gladly come smoke outside of it.



I think I'll pass on your offer.

I do hope you can kick the habit someday, though. I've seen a few people close to me suffer from the aftermath of cigarette smoking. And it isn't pretty. Good luck to you.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Radar on July 31, 2008, 01:58:39 PM
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Originally posted by Gold

I have the same problem.  I'm highly allergic to smoke and beyond that I can't stand sharing an elevator with someone who smells of cancer sticks.

Not so long ago, I got on an elevator with a smoker -- I was eating a granola bar for breakfast and she was making fun of my "healthy breakfast."  I had some words for her.

My guess is that TPD has bigger fish to fry than criminal smokers, though it seems like they'd be easy to nab from their office at 6th and Main.  Maybe it will give the horsey cops, who show up on the Main Mall area a couple of times a year for no reason, something to do.

The easiest things you can do are complain to the building manager or just confront the offenders.



Nobody wants to see you gnawing on a granola bar either.  We all have to put up with each other on this tiny little planet.  Learn to get along and play nice with others, life's too short.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: PenNameNeeded on July 31, 2008, 02:30:39 PM
You can find Oklahoma's secondhand smoke law information at: http://www.breatheeasyok.com/

You can also report incidents to an automated line at 1-866-ONLY-AIR.

You can also find information on frequently asked questions, etc.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: MDepr2007 on July 31, 2008, 03:01:52 PM
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Originally posted by PenNameNeeded

You can find Oklahoma's secondhand smoke law information at: http://www.breatheeasyok.com/

You can also report incidents to an automated line at 1-866-ONLY-AIR.

You can also find information on frequently asked questions, etc.



And the case study showing actual second hand smoke deaths is where?
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: mrB on July 31, 2008, 04:53:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:
Originally posted by PenNameNeeded

You can find Oklahoma's secondhand smoke law information at: http://www.breatheeasyok.com/

You can also report incidents to an automated line at 1-866-ONLY-AIR.

You can also find information on frequently asked questions, etc.



And the case study showing actual second hand smoke deaths is where?



Table: Health Effects of Secondhand Smoke (5.2k)
http://www.ok.gov/breatheeasyok/documents/table.pdf

2006 Surgeon General's Report on Secondhand Smoke

The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke

This is the most comprehensive and most authoritative report on the health effects of secondhand smoke.  Released June 27, 2006, it is an update of the landmark 1986 Surgeon General's Report on the same topic.


Executive Summary (.PDF file)
http://www.ok.gov/breatheeasyok/documents/executivesummary.pdf

Full Report (links to .PDF files for each chapter, 709 pages total)
http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/secondhandsmoke/report/

Six Major Conclusions (1 page .PDF file)
http://www.ok.gov/breatheeasyok/documents/6-MajorConclusions.pdf

Secondhand Smoke - What It Means to You (20-page booklet based on the 2006 Surgeon General's Report (PDF file download)
http://www.ok.gov/breatheeasyok/documents/Secondhand%20Smoke-What%20It%20Means%20To%20You.pdf




Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: danno on July 31, 2008, 07:20:19 PM
Grow some balls, guys.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Double A on July 31, 2008, 09:15:47 PM
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

"Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life."

Brooke Shields (during an interview to become spokesperson for a federal anti-smoking campaign)



Fat F#*ks cost this state more and is a bigger health problem than smoking ever was or will be.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: RecycleMichael on July 31, 2008, 09:25:04 PM
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Originally posted by Double A
Fat F#*ks cost this state more and is a bigger health problem than smoking ever was or will be.



Mental illness is a real disease. You should get help.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Double A on July 31, 2008, 10:48:18 PM
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by Double A
Fat F#*ks cost this state more and is a bigger health problem than smoking ever was or will be.



Mental illness is a real disease. You should get help.



It's called a diet, you should try it.
Title: Oklahoma no smoking enforcement
Post by: Red Arrow on July 31, 2008, 11:23:58 PM
I used to smoke cigars and a pipe (tobacco only). I quit 20 some years ago after evaluating the family cancer history and other issues. Now I mostly just don't like the smell of cigarettes (never did really) but allergy would be a bit strong. I recently stayed in a motel with non-smoking rooms unavailable for a few days. The first two nights did attack my sinuses and make sleeping uncomfortable.

I try not to be a militant jerk but smoking just stinks, literally.