I don't have a good sense on this one because I live in the corner of the district and am registered democrat.
Randi Miller has raised the most money and is the incumbent so history says she will prevail. I sure do know a lot of people who are real mad at her and would vote for anybody but her however. I don't know many republicans outside of mid-town so I have no clue of the Sand Springs/west Tulsa/Jenks/Glenpool.
I doubt the Bell's controversy has as much weight in those communities as it does in midtown.
I know there are 200,000 or so in the district, but how many are registered republicans and would show up for a special election in July is a guess beyond my paygrade.
The media has really been all over Miller. There's no way she wins the general election. I'm in the same boat -- don't have a good feel for how hoi polloi will vote.
Then again, Bell isn't that great of a candidate. She repeats the same few lines over and over. Her platform, from what I've read, doesn't really understand the office she is running for.
It's a unique election.
Does anyone know where you can find a map of the district boundaries for county commissioner? I don't have a good idea of how extensive her district is. I have been really suprised at the number of Sally Bell signs. I have only seen one Randi Miller sign, which went up just yesterday. I don't know if that means anything.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Does anyone know where you can find a map of the district boundaries for county commissioner? I don't have a good idea of how extensive her district is. I have been really suprised at the number of Sally Bell signs. I have only seen one Randi Miller sign, which went up just yesterday. I don't know if that means anything.
http://www.tulsacounty.org/districtmaps.asp
I'd like to meet the person with the Miller sign and ask one question:
"Really?"
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Does anyone know where you can find a map of the district boundaries for county commissioner? I don't have a good idea of how extensive her district is. I have been really suprised at the number of Sally Bell signs. I have only seen one Randi Miller sign, which went up just yesterday. I don't know if that means anything.
It means you just found it where Randi Miller lives.
This could be 1986 all over again where a public official was doing such a poor job they got knocked off in the primary by an unknown on a mission.
All the workaday slobs I know who keep tabs say they won't vote for Randi. My moles around the oligarchy, the Rooney and Flint cartel, BOK/Kaiser, and Lorton's World/F&M Bank aren't talking though. I suspect Diebold will rig the election in favor of the oligarchy. [:X]
I believe with the Bjorklund lawsuit, that will be the tipping point for Randi. It's close enough to the election that those who don't stay well-informed will think: "Oh yeah, that's that Randi who is getting sued. Better not vote for her." She has been a total disappointment, I just don't know how many people really have followed her crash and burn through the commission and her abortive attempt to become mayor.
Without the suit, I think she might make it through the primary.
Some people will vote for Sally because it would be symbolic. Others might not purely for that reason- it seems like too much of a novelty candidacy.
And yes, I have seen far more Bell than Miller signs around town. I'm not sure where Randi has been spending her money, because I've not heard nor seen any campaign material other than MB's description of her bogus campaign flyer. I haven't listened to the radio in a month since I was out of town and have been riding to work and back, so if she's buying air time I'm not hearing it.
Regardless, Karen Keith wins in November. At least we've got two opportunities to try and weed Randi out. If Randi squeaks by Sally, Karen has the resources to make sure everyone is aware of how bad we've been gyped by Randy.
^ Agree with everything above.
I have been hearing Randi Miller ads on KFAQ, which is quite an incongruous moment, as some of her biggest critics are there.
I have no idea who's going to win Tuesday. Given all the scandals, it shouldn't be close. But you're always going to have a certain segment of voters who are ignorant of what's been going on, thus giving an advantage to the Incumbent Party. Plus Sally Bell has been an unimpressive, one-issue candidate.
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I have been hearing Randi Miller ads on KFAQ, which is quite an incongruous moment, as some of her biggest critics are there.he Incumbent Party. Plus Sally Bell has been an unimpressive, one-issue candidate.
Pat Campbell had both on yesterday for a debate which has been loaded onto the KFAQ (//%22http://www.1170kfaq.com/%22) website. Looks like Keith will be our lady for that seat which suits me fine.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Does anyone know where you can find a map of the district boundaries for county commissioner? I don't have a good idea of how extensive her district is. I have been really suprised at the number of Sally Bell signs. I have only seen one Randi Miller sign, which went up just yesterday. I don't know if that means anything.
I noticed my first and only Miller sign near 30th & Peoria. On a second pass, I noticed bundles of signs, and a couple of large wooden signs, silkscreened in red and blue with cursive writing that seemed to include the words "County Commissioner." (It was upside down, so I may be mistaken.) I was curious to know who Randi's first and apparently only midtown supporter was. A Google search indicated the house was recently on the market, so I'm guessing its a vacant house being used as a staging area for sign distribution.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Does anyone know where you can find a map of the district boundaries for county commissioner? I don't have a good idea of how extensive her district is. I have been really suprised at the number of Sally Bell signs. I have only seen one Randi Miller sign, which went up just yesterday. I don't know if that means anything.
I noticed my first and only Miller sign near 30th & Peoria. On a second pass, I noticed bundles of signs, and a couple of large wooden signs, silkscreened in red and blue with cursive writing that seemed to include the words "County Commissioner." (It was upside down, so I may be mistaken.) I was curious to know who Randi's first and apparently only midtown supporter was. A Google search indicated the house was recently on the market, so I'm guessing its a vacant house being used as a staging area for sign distribution.
That's the same sign that I saw. Anyone seen any others?
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It means you just found it where Randi Miller lives.
She lives in Jenks now, btw.
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Originally posted by Hoss
It means you just found it where Randi Miller lives.
She lives in Jenks now, btw.
With or without Mr. Miller?
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Originally posted by Double A
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Originally posted by Hoss
It means you just found it where Randi Miller lives.
She lives in Jenks now, btw.
With or without Mr. Miller?
Mr. doesn't live in the U.S. let alone Jenks.
With Bell what will happen or not continue at the fairgrounds just because of the bad blood even if Miller is gone. Sorry but Bell has not got enough knowledge of all county areas to be elected.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Does anyone know where you can find a map of the district boundaries for county commissioner? I don't have a good idea of how extensive her district is. I have been really suprised at the number of Sally Bell signs. I have only seen one Randi Miller sign, which went up just yesterday. I don't know if that means anything.
I noticed my first and only Miller sign near 30th & Peoria. On a second pass, I noticed bundles of signs, and a couple of large wooden signs, silkscreened in red and blue with cursive writing that seemed to include the words "County Commissioner." (It was upside down, so I may be mistaken.) I was curious to know who Randi's first and apparently only midtown supporter was. A Google search indicated the house was recently on the market, so I'm guessing its a vacant house being used as a staging area for sign distribution.
Michael, if Randi wins her primary, where is your support going in the general?
Wouldn't look good for you to support Randi, but I know you have issues w/ Karen over 2025 and the river plan.
You should have run.
Keith is a bought and paid for puppet. Regardless of any achievements she has previously accomplished, she has neither the stamina or the umph to deal with the county boys. Bell is a one issue bulldog but would still be better than Keith. Have to wonder who it benefits if Miller doesn't get re-elected.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Conan71
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With Bell what will happen or not continue at the fairgrounds just because of the bad blood even if Miller is gone. Sorry but Bell has not got enough knowledge of all county areas to be elected.
Have you ever visited a county commission meeting and judged the knowledge and ability of the three? Randi leads the pack but that's not saying much. They are stumbling, bumbling, boobs.
My prediction is that in spite of west side and far south support for their homegurl, Randi succumbs to Bell in a close race, who then loses big to Keith. Keith will do well in midtown.
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Originally posted by MDepr2007
QuoteOriginally posted by Conan71
QuoteOriginally posted by Double A
QuoteOriginally posted by Hoss
With Bell what will happen or not continue at the fairgrounds just because of the bad blood even if Miller is gone. Sorry but Bell has not got enough knowledge of all county areas to be elected.
Have you ever visited a county commission meeting and judged the knowledge and ability of the three? Randi leads the pack but that's not saying much. They are stumbling, bumbling, boobs.
Which is really pathetic considering Perry and Smalligo are former state legislators.
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Originally posted by MDepr2007
QuoteOriginally posted by Conan71
QuoteOriginally posted by Double A
QuoteOriginally posted by Hoss
With Bell what will happen or not continue at the fairgrounds just because of the bad blood even if Miller is gone. Sorry but Bell has not got enough knowledge of all county areas to be elected.
Have you ever visited a county commission meeting and judged the knowledge and ability of the three? Randi leads the pack but that's not saying much. They are stumbling, bumbling, boobs.
Ever watched the city council , especially when someone wants to add a friendly amendment
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Originally posted by waterboy
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Originally posted by MDepr2007
QuoteOriginally posted by Conan71
QuoteOriginally posted by Double A
QuoteOriginally posted by Hoss
With Bell what will happen or not continue at the fairgrounds just because of the bad blood even if Miller is gone. Sorry but Bell has not got enough knowledge of all county areas to be elected.
Have you ever visited a county commission meeting and judged the knowledge and ability of the three? Randi leads the pack but that's not saying much. They are stumbling, bumbling, boobs.
Ever watched the city council , especially when someone wants to add a friendly amendment
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My prediction is that in spite of west side and far south support for their homegurl, Randi succumbs to Bell in a close race, who then loses big to Keith. Keith will do well in midtown.
As a westsider, I can say that Randi's support here is shallow, if it exists at all.
I'm not discounting the provincialism effect from helping her carry this side of the city. But damned if I can find anyone who's an honest supporter.
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My prediction is that in spite of west side and far south support for their homegurl, Randi succumbs to Bell in a close race, who then loses big to Keith. Keith will do well in midtown.
As a westsider, I can say that Randi's support here is shallow, if it exists at all.
I'm not discounting the provincialism effect from helping her carry this side of the city. But damned if I can find anyone who's an honest supporter.
That's the vibe I get in Mid-town. I think she's toast. I wonder how she is doing in Jenks, Glenpool, and Sand Springs?
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I don't have a good sense on this one because I live in the corner of the district and am registered democrat.
Randi Miller has raised the most money and is the incumbent so history says she will prevail. I sure do know a lot of people who are real mad at her and would vote for anybody but her however. I don't know many republicans outside of mid-town so I have no clue of the Sand Springs/west Tulsa/Jenks/Glenpool.
I doubt the Bell's controversy has as much weight in those communities as it does in midtown.
I know there are 200,000 or so in the district, but how many are registered republicans and would show up for a special election in July is a guess beyond my paygrade.
I predict a woman is going to win, that should make you happy.
I saw two Miller signs over by the projects on West 23rd and Jackson. Not much voter activity in that area I would guess. Probably chose the corner for its visibility. If you stop at that corner you're dang sure looking around closely.
Worse versus worser.....bungler versus Bircher.