Is this a decent n'hood......or do I wanna know? I've seen a few nice houses in this area but I'm pretty iffy on that part of Tulsa. It's somewhat close to Tulsa Country Club....the homes are in the 1800 block of W Reading.
I don't know a thing about that part of town.
I really believe in that area. It's not perfect, but I also think it's pretty under-valued at the moment. It's worth doing some due dilligence to see what you're comfortable with.
I think the Gilcrease Hills area is one of the hipper parts of Tulsa.
There are a handful of mansions within a couple of blocks of Gilcrease along the ridge to the south. I understand the upper end homes in Gilcrease Hills have held up well. Owen Park, Reservoir Hill and Brady Heights are up and coming historic areas. The houses in these areas offer more value that Midtown and South Tulsa. I live pretty close to Gilcrease and I was just thinking how the mixed incomes and racial diversity of the area is just about perfect. All we need is a little village with a health food store and a coffee house to hang out at. Utica Square is only 15 minutes away. Downtown is 10 minutes away.
Yes, there are definitely benefits....I work downtown as well so the commute would be nice. I'm just unsure about that part of "north Tulsa" and I'm pretty unsure about Tulsa Public Schools as a whole.
I lived in Oakland for 14 years before returning to Tulsa so I have gotten used to the idea of everyone that can afford it putting their kids in private school though I think most of the kids in my neighborhood go to public schools out of choice.
Apparently you can leave the neighborhood and go to school in other parts of town, but as far as close by, I've heard that Emerson is good and that Booker T. Washington is one of the city's top highschools. If I had children I would be tempted to put my kids in Catholic School though, like Holy Family or Marquette.
I do hear gun fire, down in the flats, from time to time. But nothing like I used to hear in Oakland or the Mission District in San Francisco.
I think you are asking for trouble whenever you spend very much time out late at night and in the wee hours. But I have never felt uncomfortable in my neighborhood.
Generally crooks go to where they think the money is, and the perception of North Tulsa is that there isn't any thing to be stolen there.
There is an old red brick mansion on Reservoir Hill for rent for $1,800 a month. An attorney and his wife and young daughters bought a house down the street from there a year ago, and they are by all reports very happy.
The neighborhoods in northwest Tulsa, close in to downtown, were built as first class neighborhoods and now they are moving back in that direction.
A lot of Gilcrease Hills has always been pretty nice. It's a "forgotten" area of town. They are very much in need of a coffee shop or something like that.
I hear random gunshots all over Tulsa, including in Maple Ridge. Folks around here just like to play with their guns.
Like I said, do your own due dilligence. Make sure you are comfortable with it. I think it is a very undervalued area, whereas all the new houses around the Tulsa Hills area are incredibly overvalued.
Are you sure that they are gunshots, and not perhaps airguns or paintballs? The rpevious owner of our house told me about hearing gunfire, and when he investigated, it was his neighbor shooting paintballs at a target in the backyard.
Maybe just a bunch of innocent kids blowing off fireworks. And the police helicopters flying over to join in the fun. Sure. It could have been paint balls.
There were several victims admitted to the hospital last week with paintball gunshots to the chest.
Crazy kids.
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It's the sound of Lorton, F&M Bank, and Kathy Taylor sucking the blood from Tulsa.
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That area along with the neighborhood east of downtown (south of 244 and north of the BA) are two areas that are definitely up-and-coming. They aren't there yet, and may not be for awhile, but compared to their state not long ago they have really improved. I personally like the east downtown neighborhoods just because they are better located in between midtown and downtown but the Gilcrease area is very nice with the hills and skyline views. The majority of the "bad" neighborhoods are not in that area but rather further east, generally east of 75 and north of 244 to the airport.
Yes, those areas on the northeast side are nice. They already have little shopping villages (with potential) like Whittier Square and 6th and Peoria. Folks in Brady Heights, Owen Park, Reservoir Hill and Gilcrease Hills need a place to hang out and drink coffee and pick up some health food. Does anyone have a suggestion where that should be located? I can't think of any little shopping village areas that could be developed. And that would sit in a good spot to draw from those neighborhoods on the northwest side.
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Originally posted by Hometown
Yes, those areas on the northeast side are nice. They already have little shopping villages (with potential) like Whittier Square and 6th and Peoria. Folks in Brady Heights, Owen Park, Reservoir Hill and Gilcrease Hills need a place to hang out and drink coffee and pick up some health food. Does anyone have a suggestion where that should be located? I can't think of any little shopping village areas that could be developed. And that would sit in a good spot to draw from those neighborhoods on the northwest side.
Isn't there a little shopping center west of Resevoir Hill on Pine, just as you are getting into Gilcrease Hills? That would be the place.
Good point. I'm going to drive by that spot.
I really like the layout of that small triangle shaped shopping center on Apache East of Cincinnati but that might be too far north and not centrally located.
Many years ago I talked to a man that bought a house in Gilcrease Hills when it first sprang up in the 70's. He referred to the place as "a diamond in a goat's a**."
The neighborhood had lots of big plans that did not quite play out.
There was a stable and horse trails at one time, plans for fishing ponds, ball fields, neighborhood clubs, etc.The pool/community center is still active.
Academy Central private school has now been taken over by Tulsa Public Schools.
Pretty area, but the interest from the downtown professional set never developed.
The shopping area on Pine was once a Food Lion, now the building houses a church. No real shopping/grocery anywhere close.
Quote from: Hometown on July 15, 2008, 08:57:58 AM
Yes, those areas on the northeast side are nice. They already have little shopping villages (with potential) like Whittier Square and 6th and Peoria. Folks in Brady Heights, Owen Park, Reservoir Hill and Gilcrease Hills need a place to hang out and drink coffee and pick up some health food. Does anyone have a suggestion where that should be located? I can't think of any little shopping village areas that could be developed. And that would sit in a good spot to draw from those neighborhoods on the northwest side.
The area around Denver & Edison would be a good start for your coffee shop/health food store. It's an urban area right next to Brady Heights along Denver which is a major thoroughfare from the NW side into downtown. The shopping center at Edison & Gilcrease Museum Rd. has a few shops and Family Dollar but could use a full-service grocery store to serve that area of town. I don't think you'll see a lot more development until the Gilcrease Turnpike is completed. And then it will take several large scale residential developments getting started near the highway. Something like what they have planned for a new highway extension down in Austin would be nice to see:
http://www.statesman.com/business/txi-plans-2-000-acre-development-straddling-texas-1050466.html?srcTrk=RTR_504016 (http://www.statesman.com/business/txi-plans-2-000-acre-development-straddling-texas-1050466.html?srcTrk=RTR_504016)
Haven't been by in about 30 years, but there was a house in Gilcrease Hills that was an early solar, passive heat/cool attempt. Water heating panels on roof. No electric, just hot water. Wonder if any of that is still there now. Has been a while.
Had a round turret at front corner of the house that was a stairway and equipment room, if memory serves.
Pretty neat house for 1972.