Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 05, 2008, 07:05:48 AM
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 05, 2008, 07:05:48 AM
I was told this morning by a co worker that he was arrested recently for DUI and hit and run. I haven't heard anything about it. I ask, because they specifically mentioned that he looked "rough" in his mugshot. I know he visited some members at a downtown bar awhile back, so I am wondering if anyone else has heard?
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 09:04:26 AM
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 09:04:26 AM
Another DRUNKEN reckless MOTORIST (//%22http://iic.tulsacounty.org/InmateDetails.aspx?Id=1199830%22)
(http://iic.tulsacounty.org/Mugshots/9606620_1199830_f.jpg)
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: inteller on July 05, 2008, 09:26:44 AM
Post by: inteller on July 05, 2008, 09:26:44 AM
Oh nooosssss! Who will do the tulsanow fan club stories now?
I love that look on his face.. "Yep, I'm ****ED!
I love that look on his face.. "Yep, I'm ****ED!
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: brunoflipper on July 05, 2008, 09:57:55 AM
Post by: brunoflipper on July 05, 2008, 09:57:55 AM
[EDIT]
poor bastard, just lost his paycheck...
poor bastard, just lost his paycheck...
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 05, 2008, 10:11:26 AM
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 05, 2008, 10:11:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsarufflebutt
Another DRUNKEN reckless MOTORIST (//%22http://iic.tulsacounty.org/InmateDetails.aspx?Id=1199830%22)
(http://iic.tulsacounty.org/Mugshots/9606620_1199830_f.jpg)
Welcome back Paul Tay.....(sarcasm)
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 10:11:33 AM
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 10:11:33 AM
OK Shooters has the story. (//%22http://www.okshooters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32745%22)
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 10:19:52 AM
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 10:19:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982
Welcome back Paul Tay.....(sarcasm)
[:P]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: brunoflipper on July 05, 2008, 10:19:54 AM
Post by: brunoflipper on July 05, 2008, 10:19:54 AM
so thats the "Oops, I crapped my pants" face...
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 10:21:38 AM
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 10:21:38 AM
quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper
so thats the "Oops, I crapped my pants" face...
This calls for the Thought Bubble Contest! WHAT could the man possibly be THINKING?![:P]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: AngieB on July 05, 2008, 10:58:48 AM
Post by: AngieB on July 05, 2008, 10:58:48 AM
I really hate seeing this.
I feel bad for him and don't like the thought that he'll probably read all these hurtful comments.
He seems like a nice guy and he made a big mistake. Hope he doesn't lose his job and will get the help and support he needs.
Good luck, Jerry.
I feel bad for him and don't like the thought that he'll probably read all these hurtful comments.
He seems like a nice guy and he made a big mistake. Hope he doesn't lose his job and will get the help and support he needs.
Good luck, Jerry.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 11:16:39 AM
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 11:16:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TulsaMINI
I really hate seeing this.
I feel bad for him and don't like the thought that he'll probably read all these hurtful comments.
He seems like a nice guy and he made a big mistake. Hope he doesn't lose his job and will get the help and support he needs.
Good luck, Jerry.
Ditto. I'm just glad he didn't kill anyone like Kimberly Graham.
On a first offense DUI, the charge is usually reduced to reckless driving. Hopefully, he didn't blow.
On the hit-n-run, I don't know how the judge will roll. Maybe the judge will throw the book at him, nab driver's license, and make him ride a bike? Naaaaaaaaaah.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: sgrizzle on July 05, 2008, 11:18:48 AM
Post by: sgrizzle on July 05, 2008, 11:18:48 AM
I agree. He made a mistake and we'll see how it plays out. It wasn't until the 33rd DUI that author guy got before anyone "started seeing a pattern."
The okieshooters link doesn't work for me.
The okieshooters link doesn't work for me.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 11:42:28 AM
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 05, 2008, 11:42:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle
I agree. He made a mistake and we'll see how it plays out. It wasn't until the 33rd DUI that author guy got before anyone "started seeing a pattern."
The okieshooters link doesn't work for me.
Shouldn't judges make drunks ride bikes as condition of probation? Help me out, people!
Also, cretins show up in traffic court on charges of suspended licenses, no liability, and revokes. How did they get to court in the first place? And, how do they leave?
Shouldn't the judges at least ASK? Naaaaaaaaah.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 05, 2008, 12:50:40 PM
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 05, 2008, 12:50:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsarufflebuttquote:
Originally posted by TulsaMINI
I really hate seeing this.
I feel bad for him and don't like the thought that he'll probably read all these hurtful comments.
He seems like a nice guy and he made a big mistake. Hope he doesn't lose his job and will get the help and support he needs.
Good luck, Jerry.
Ditto. I'm just glad he didn't kill anyone like Kimberly Graham.
On a first offense DUI, the charge is usually reduced to reckless driving. Hopefully, he didn't blow.
On the hit-n-run, I don't know how the judge will roll. Maybe the judge will throw the book at him, nab driver's license, and make him ride a bike? Naaaaaaaaaah.
I bet he will ROLL in style. What do you think? How he will RULE, is anyones guess.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: RecycleMichael on July 05, 2008, 01:15:32 PM
Post by: RecycleMichael on July 05, 2008, 01:15:32 PM
I hope he is OK.
He made a mistake. He probably deserves a second chance.
He is a good journalist and a positive member of our community. He is involved in non-profit work and has a history of using his job as a way to help others.
He made a mistake. He probably deserves a second chance.
He is a good journalist and a positive member of our community. He is involved in non-profit work and has a history of using his job as a way to help others.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Ed W on July 05, 2008, 01:24:45 PM
Post by: Ed W on July 05, 2008, 01:24:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsarufflebuttQuote
Shouldn't judges make drunks ride bikes as condition of probation? Help me out, people!
Don't drink and ride! Trust me on this one. The juxtaposition of saddle and bladder coupled with increased kidney output and a bent forward riding position leads to far too many stops on the way home.
Besides, all that tequila and lime doesn't taste as good on the second trip through the mouth.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 05, 2008, 02:29:19 PM
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 05, 2008, 02:29:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
I hope he is OK.
He made a mistake. He probably deserves a second chance.
He is a good journalist and a positive member of our community. He is involved in non-profit work and has a history of using his job as a way to help others.
I have never understood how people classify a DUI as a mistake? A mistake is accidently mowing over a rock and hitting a window. A mistake is backing out of a parking lot and tapping a pole that was in your blind spot.
How is making a conscience decision to drive drunk a mistake? How is hit and run a mistake? He drove off after hitting another car or someone's property. He could have easily killed someone. I am not voicing my frustration to you recyclemichael, I just don't understand how it can be simply labeled a mistake.
He might be a great journalist, and do alot of things in the community, but he shouldn't get a free pass on these boards or anywhere else for that matter, simply because of two aspects of a person's life.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: MH2010 on July 05, 2008, 03:17:16 PM
Post by: MH2010 on July 05, 2008, 03:17:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
I hope he is OK.
He made a mistake. He probably deserves a second chance.
He is a good journalist and a positive member of our community. He is involved in non-profit work and has a history of using his job as a way to help others.
I have never understood how people classify a DUI as a mistake? A mistake is accidently mowing over a rock and hitting a window. A mistake is backing out of a parking lot and tapping a pole that was in your blind spot.
How is making a conscience decision to drive drunk a mistake? How is hit and run a mistake? He drove off after hitting another car or someone's property. He could have easily killed someone. I am not voicing my frustration to you recyclemichael, I just don't understand how it can be simply labeled a mistake.
He might be a great journalist, and do alot of things in the community, but he shouldn't get a free pass on these boards or anywhere else for that matter, simply because of two aspects of a person's life.
The word mistake is defined as:
mistake
Function: noun
Date: 1600
1 : a wrong judgment : misunderstanding
2 : a wrong action or statement proceeding from faulty judgment, inadequate knowledge, or inattention
I think people use the word to mean "he made a wrong judgement" or " a wrong action proceeding from faulty judgment."
I think a better statement would be that Jerry made a poor decision. Now he will have to suffer the consequences of his actions.
I don't think he is a bad person or someone that deserves jail time and he doesn't deserve to lose his job. It's his first offense and he should be treated like everyone else. He will probably have to pay a large fine and go to DUI courses.
I think it would be neat if he would allow a camera crew to go with him during his whole DUI process (court, talking to his insurance to see how much it will go up or if they cancel his coverage, finding rides to work or paying a whole lot of money to get a breath device put on his vehicle, DUI school ect.)
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: inteller on July 05, 2008, 03:24:04 PM
Post by: inteller on July 05, 2008, 03:24:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
I hope he is OK.
He made a mistake. He probably deserves a second chance.
He is a good journalist and a positive member of our community. He is involved in non-profit work and has a history of using his job as a way to help others.
quit making excuses for your fellow cronies. He came down and did a news story on your club meeting and now he's your best pal....puh.lease. If this would have been anyone else off the street would you say the same thing? I think not.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: inteller on July 05, 2008, 03:30:59 PM
Post by: inteller on July 05, 2008, 03:30:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper
was he on his way to turkey mountain?
[}:)][}:)]
if so then this was probably the better outcome.[}:)][}:)]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: RecycleMichael on July 05, 2008, 03:39:26 PM
Post by: RecycleMichael on July 05, 2008, 03:39:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller
quit making excuses for your fellow cronies. He came down and did a news story on your club meeting and now he's your best pal....puh.lease.
You don't know anything. I knew him before he came and did a story on TulsaNow. I feel sorry for him and agree with MH2010 that what he did was better described as he used poor judgement. I feel sorry for him because he is a likable guy.
You are a miserable curmudgeon. No one would care if you were in the same situation.
Bad things happen to bad people too. We just don't care as much.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Rico on July 05, 2008, 04:31:40 PM
Post by: Rico on July 05, 2008, 04:31:40 PM
Originally posted by MH2010.
I think it would be neat if he would allow a camera crew to go with him during his whole DUI process (court, talking to his insurance to see how much it will go up or if they cancel his coverage, finding rides to work or paying a whole lot of money to get a breath device put on his vehicle, DUI school ect.)
Problem is.... The people that need to watch something of this nature would change the channel.
If it were only that easy you would have some long boring nights at work....
I think it would be neat if he would allow a camera crew to go with him during his whole DUI process (court, talking to his insurance to see how much it will go up or if they cancel his coverage, finding rides to work or paying a whole lot of money to get a breath device put on his vehicle, DUI school ect.)
Problem is.... The people that need to watch something of this nature would change the channel.
If it were only that easy you would have some long boring nights at work....
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: HazMatCFO on July 05, 2008, 06:28:10 PM
Post by: HazMatCFO on July 05, 2008, 06:28:10 PM
I hate to see this for it's bad for everyone involved. Just thankful no one was hurt.
I agree he deserves a second chance, but he's in a position that may not be so flexible. With a DUI is your license automatically suspended and if so, for how long? Jerry is not going to be much use to Channel 8 as a reporter without a valid driver's license.
I agree he deserves a second chance, but he's in a position that may not be so flexible. With a DUI is your license automatically suspended and if so, for how long? Jerry is not going to be much use to Channel 8 as a reporter without a valid driver's license.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Hoss on July 05, 2008, 06:51:52 PM
Post by: Hoss on July 05, 2008, 06:51:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by intellerquote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
I hope he is OK.
He made a mistake. He probably deserves a second chance.
He is a good journalist and a positive member of our community. He is involved in non-profit work and has a history of using his job as a way to help others.
quit making excuses for your fellow cronies. He came down and did a news story on your club meeting and now he's your best pal....puh.lease. If this would have been anyone else off the street would you say the same thing? I think not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQzkDzLw_gA
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: stu8749 on July 05, 2008, 10:42:38 PM
Post by: stu8749 on July 05, 2008, 10:42:38 PM
Come on! Stop trying to give this guy a break. Trust me, he ain't a very nice guy... matter of fact he is a JERK! "With a Capital J" I took his Speech Class at TCC, and he is one of the most arrogant son of a gun's out there today. I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too. But, I got a B from him. Everyday he called out students in the class and picked on them, it was so bad. He even made a girl cry, I swear to God, he called her fat. He must of gotten off on making people feel small.
When I saw his mug shot on the news, I was laughing so much I became to cry. O' how the mighty have fallen. I think he deserves whatever is coming to him, but for me, I hope he gets the needle!
When I saw his mug shot on the news, I was laughing so much I became to cry. O' how the mighty have fallen. I think he deserves whatever is coming to him, but for me, I hope he gets the needle!
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: patric on July 05, 2008, 11:06:39 PM
Post by: patric on July 05, 2008, 11:06:39 PM
The incident almost seems to put a less demonic face on getting a DUI, as if it can happen to anybody, or it was just his turn.
Glad no one was hurt.
Glad no one was hurt.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Conan71 on July 05, 2008, 11:23:12 PM
Post by: Conan71 on July 05, 2008, 11:23:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stu8749
Come on! Stop trying to give this guy a break. Trust me, he ain't a very nice guy... matter of fact he is a JERK! "With a Capital J" I took his Speech Class a TCC, and he is one of the most arrogant son of a gun's out there today. I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too. But, I got a B from him. Everyday he called out students in the class and picked on them, it was so bad. He even made a girl cry, I swear to God, he called her fat. He must of gotten off on making people feel small.
When I saw his mug shot on the news, I was laughing so much I became to cry. O' how the mighty have fallen. I think he deserves whatever is coming to him, but for me, I hope he gets the needle!
"I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too."
I call bull**** on that one. Quit blowing your own horn. You guys might really be pathetic students.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: MH2010 on July 05, 2008, 11:40:04 PM
Post by: MH2010 on July 05, 2008, 11:40:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by patric
The incident almost seems to put a less demonic face on getting a DUI, as if it can happen to anybody, or it was just his turn.
Glad no one was hurt.
At .08 BAC, it could happen to ALOT of people.
It's easy to tell you had too many when your BAC is .12 or above. It's alot harder to know when you are around .08.
I always wanted to take a small alcohol breath tester to a local bar along brookside or somewhere else where people usually just drink socially. I would want to go around 5:00 on a Thursday or Friday to catch the after work crowd. Hopefully, people would let me test them when they leave for free and with no consequences. I would ask that everyone that blows between .08 to a .1 tell me what they had to drink. I think everyone would be suprised at how little it is.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Red Arrow on July 05, 2008, 11:58:03 PM
Post by: Red Arrow on July 05, 2008, 11:58:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MH2010quote:
Originally posted by patric
The incident almost seems to put a less demonic face on getting a DUI, as if it can happen to anybody, or it was just his turn.
Glad no one was hurt.
At .08 BAC, it could happen to ALOT of people.
It's easy to tell you had too many when your BAC is .12 or above. It's alot harder to know when you are around .08.
I always wanted to take a small alcohol breath tester to a local bar along brookside or somewhere else where people usually just drink socially. I would want to go around 5:00 on a Thursday or Friday to catch the after work crowd. Hopefully, people would let me test them when they leave for free and with no consequences. I would ask that everyone that blows between .08 to a .1 tell me what they had to drink. I think everyone would be suprised at how little it is.
.08 gets you in BIG trouble. I believe the limit for lesser trouble is .04. Basically, anything more than one drink will get the average sized person in trouble, if caught.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 06, 2008, 07:23:21 PM
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 06, 2008, 07:23:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ed W
Don't drink and ride! Trust me on this one. The juxtaposition of saddle and bladder coupled with increased kidney output and a bent forward riding position leads to far too many stops on the way home.
Besides, all that tequila and lime doesn't taste as good on the second trip through the mouth.
Buddy, ya got the WRONG drink. Try the five-liter box of Frenzia Red. 9.99 at your fav liquor store. Goes down smooth. Nice buzz on the bike. AND, cheap for the whole group to share!
Lug a box to your next group ride and watch the cute chicks SWARM. I got the lug-n-chug AND the NAKED bike ride, all CAUGHT on TAPE. [:D]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 06, 2008, 07:27:59 PM
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 06, 2008, 07:27:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982
He might be a great journalist, and do alot of things in the community, but he shouldn't get a free pass on these boards or anywhere else for that matter, simply because of two aspects of a person's life.
(http://iic.tulsacounty.org/Mugshots/9606620_1199830_f.jpg)
WHAT-evaaaaaah. With a mugshot like THAT, Jerry gets the skate.
Cute blondes like Kristen Glover, NO. Lori Fullbright, NO. Good thing she's quit with breaking into a SCHOOL full of kids.
I'm with Double A. Stick it to the cute blondes. [:P]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 06, 2008, 07:51:18 PM
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 06, 2008, 07:51:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rico
Originally posted by MH2010.
I think it would be neat if he would allow a camera crew to go with him during his whole DUI process (court, talking to his insurance to see how much it will go up or if they cancel his coverage, finding rides to work or paying a whole lot of money to get a breath device put on his vehicle, DUI school ect.)
Great IDEA for his community service! I hope his judge and KTUL are taking NOTES.
Hey, if KTUL allows Bill Mitchell to spill his guts about the heavy smoking, why not let Jerry keep his job and spill his guts about the heavy drinking. Could be great for sweeps season, ESPECIALLY if DPS nabs DL and the judge orders bike duty. I'd CERTAINLY watch Inside TULSA Edition. [:P]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 06, 2008, 07:55:00 PM
Post by: tulsarufflebutt on July 06, 2008, 07:55:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow
.08 gets you in BIG trouble. I believe the limit for lesser trouble is .04. Basically, anything more than one drink will get the average sized person in trouble, if caught.
EXACTLY why you should NEVER blow. Why give up the goods? Make 'em PROVE it.[:D]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: sgrizzle on July 07, 2008, 08:11:58 AM
Post by: sgrizzle on July 07, 2008, 08:11:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by stu8749
Come on! Stop trying to give this guy a break. Trust me, he ain't a very nice guy... matter of fact he is a JERK! "With a Capital J" I took his Speech Class a TCC, and he is one of the most arrogant son of a gun's out there today. I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too. But, I got a B from him. Everyday he called out students in the class and picked on them, it was so bad. He even made a girl cry, I swear to God, he called her fat. He must of gotten off on making people feel small.
When I saw his mug shot on the news, I was laughing so much I became to cry. O' how the mighty have fallen. I think he deserves whatever is coming to him, but for me, I hope he gets the needle!
Geez, a teacher has to give me lower than a B before I want them executed... C at least.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: cannon_fodder on July 07, 2008, 10:20:48 AM
Post by: cannon_fodder on July 07, 2008, 10:20:48 AM
#1) Tulsarufflebutt - Paul, you already have 3 other log ins. How many do you need?
#2) Refusing to blow has consequences too.
You have the right to refuse:
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=82947
But doing so is the automatic loss of your license for up to 3 years:
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=440141
Refusal will bring an assumption of guilt for license revocation (same as failing the test, it is revoked) as well as a DUI charge (BAC > .08). You have implied consent by driving on public roads in Oklahoma. So by refusing, you are revoking that consent and must face the consequences. If you are stopped and requested to take the test and informed that refusing will result in lose of license, the State has the beeline to taking away your license.
While on the subject, never take a field sobriety test. When given in laboratory conditions (for evaluation purposes) the officer's guessed correctly 65% of the time. So 45% of the time they were wrong WITHOUT a suspicion of intoxication (or they wouldn't request the test). There is no Oklahoma penalty (that I am aware of) for refusal.
http://www.edgelawfirm.com/drivers.license/drivers.rights
Generally, I have been told to take the test and worry about defeating it later. Refusing to take the tests allows a presumption of guilt as well as telling the jury you refused so you must be guilty (can't do that with any other crime, where you have the right to remain silent). Perhaps opinions differ - I'm not expert in the area.
DUI is a bit of a witch hunt. Clearly driving drunk is a bad idea and dangerous, but you are guilty until proven innocent, the court costs are higher than nearly anything else, and the punishment doesn't usually fit the crime. The firm I linked above (which has the most clear website I found in a brief search) has an interesting list of things that are different in DUI cases - guilty until innocent and what-not:
http://www.edgelawfirm.com/dui.dwi.facts/constitution.limitations
Per this guy - just like any other. It appears he made a stupid decision to drive while drunk. We don't kick out legislators for drunk driving, we elect them to the white house, they coach all over the nation... why not give the news? His ability to deliver some fluff piece on how hot it is probably won't be effected by whatever he does on a Friday night.
One more complaint, a guy loses their CDL for a DUI. That seems harsh for a truck driver, cop, post officer worker, delivery guy etc. Taking away their livelihood for a dumb decision on personal time. Second offense - sure. Bah.
/I don't drink and drive or even come close, no convictions of DUI ever, so my view is not based on personal bias. And again, I only know what I've been told about DUI law.
#2) Refusing to blow has consequences too.
You have the right to refuse:
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=82947
But doing so is the automatic loss of your license for up to 3 years:
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=440141
Refusal will bring an assumption of guilt for license revocation (same as failing the test, it is revoked) as well as a DUI charge (BAC > .08). You have implied consent by driving on public roads in Oklahoma. So by refusing, you are revoking that consent and must face the consequences. If you are stopped and requested to take the test and informed that refusing will result in lose of license, the State has the beeline to taking away your license.
While on the subject, never take a field sobriety test. When given in laboratory conditions (for evaluation purposes) the officer's guessed correctly 65% of the time. So 45% of the time they were wrong WITHOUT a suspicion of intoxication (or they wouldn't request the test). There is no Oklahoma penalty (that I am aware of) for refusal.
quote:
The following people may be better served by refusing the test. You should understand that a refusal could trigger a suspension of your Oklahoma driving privileges for 6 months or longer:
* If you are involved in a collision, especially if serious injuries or death are involved,
* Persons who have been convicted of one or more prior DUI offenses within the past 10 years,
* Persons who may have any illegal substance in their system,
* People under age
http://www.edgelawfirm.com/drivers.license/drivers.rights
Generally, I have been told to take the test and worry about defeating it later. Refusing to take the tests allows a presumption of guilt as well as telling the jury you refused so you must be guilty (can't do that with any other crime, where you have the right to remain silent). Perhaps opinions differ - I'm not expert in the area.
DUI is a bit of a witch hunt. Clearly driving drunk is a bad idea and dangerous, but you are guilty until proven innocent, the court costs are higher than nearly anything else, and the punishment doesn't usually fit the crime. The firm I linked above (which has the most clear website I found in a brief search) has an interesting list of things that are different in DUI cases - guilty until innocent and what-not:
http://www.edgelawfirm.com/dui.dwi.facts/constitution.limitations
Per this guy - just like any other. It appears he made a stupid decision to drive while drunk. We don't kick out legislators for drunk driving, we elect them to the white house, they coach all over the nation... why not give the news? His ability to deliver some fluff piece on how hot it is probably won't be effected by whatever he does on a Friday night.
One more complaint, a guy loses their CDL for a DUI. That seems harsh for a truck driver, cop, post officer worker, delivery guy etc. Taking away their livelihood for a dumb decision on personal time. Second offense - sure. Bah.
/I don't drink and drive or even come close, no convictions of DUI ever, so my view is not based on personal bias. And again, I only know what I've been told about DUI law.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Hometown on July 07, 2008, 12:39:14 PM
Post by: Hometown on July 07, 2008, 12:39:14 PM
Believe it or not this was the big breaking news story in Tulsa, Oklahoma this past weekend. Talk about a town in search of a life.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: AngieB on July 07, 2008, 12:56:40 PM
Post by: AngieB on July 07, 2008, 12:56:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hometown
Believe it or not this was the big breaking news story in Tulsa, Oklahoma this past weekend. Talk about a town in search of a life.
If it hadn't been covered by the media, there'd be cries of coverup.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Hometown on July 07, 2008, 01:01:47 PM
Post by: Hometown on July 07, 2008, 01:01:47 PM
We thought we detected a nervous twitch when his co-anchor read the story. Luckily he had (I guess) been given the day off.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Red Arrow on July 07, 2008, 01:07:51 PM
Post by: Red Arrow on July 07, 2008, 01:07:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hometown
Believe it or not this was the big breaking news story in Tulsa, Oklahoma this past weekend. Talk about a town in search of a life.
Today's TW front page was about fireflys.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: OkieDiva on July 07, 2008, 03:53:14 PM
Post by: OkieDiva on July 07, 2008, 03:53:14 PM
There but for the grace of God go um, most of us? Driving under the influence is reckless, dangerous and shows an utter lack of respect for life - and I'd hazard a guess to say most of us have probably done it at one time or another in our lives. Most likely, the difference between Jerry and us isn't that we've never made a reckless choice... rather, the difference is that we weren't caught. And perhaps, too, we realized the terrible consequences our actions could produce at a younger age than Jerry.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Sardonicus Rex on July 07, 2008, 04:09:47 PM
Post by: Sardonicus Rex on July 07, 2008, 04:09:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by HazMatCFO
With a DUI is your license automatically suspended and if so, for how long? Jerry is not going to be much use to Channel 8 as a reporter without a valid driver's license.
His license will be suspended for 6 months whether or not he's actually convicted of DUI. It gets suspended any time you blow over the limit or refuse the test, no matter what goes on your record.
He may be able to show he needs to drive to earn a living, in which case he might qualify for one of those alcohol interlock devices while his license is suspended. Or, since TV reporters always have a photojournalist in tow, perhaps his camera operator will have to drive him around everywhere.
If this is his first offense, it wouldn't surprise me if he gets off with a plea deal down to reckless driving if he satisfactorily completes everything the judge orders. It's a fairly common practice for first-timers, I'm pretty sure. But it sure won't be cheap.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: patric on July 07, 2008, 07:09:13 PM
Post by: patric on July 07, 2008, 07:09:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder
While on the subject, never take a field sobriety test. When given in laboratory conditions (for evaluation purposes) the officer's guessed correctly 65% of the time. So 45% of the time they were wrong WITHOUT a suspicion of intoxication (or they wouldn't request the test). There is no Oklahoma penalty (that I am aware of) for refusal.
That's consistent with what friendly cops tell me, as well as what I've read about off-duty cops pulled over outside their jurisdiction.
From this post and MH2010's observation on how little it actually takes to fail a breathaliar, im getting the impression DUI is more a cash cow than a public safety crisis.
While I believe that dangerous drivers shouldnt be on the road, it seems some purity was lost in the zeal to go after anything alcohol-related.
And though I havent been through the paces myself, it does seem that the whole DUI scene goes against the rules of our legal system -- perhaps for revenue, or just to placate the exaggerated morals of the powerful.
The Mayors daughter seems to have survived the ordeal without the total collapse of order, maybe we just make too much of this altogether.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: OUGrad05 on July 07, 2008, 08:25:09 PM
Post by: OUGrad05 on July 07, 2008, 08:25:09 PM
I take drinking and driving very seriously. Two friends of mine were killed in high school and another is a parapalegic.
However, if he was .08 that is a tough call, I think the legal limit is .08 is it not? Which means the guy had a beer or two at dinner?
Also are there any links with the story as opposed to speculation?
However, if he was .08 that is a tough call, I think the legal limit is .08 is it not? Which means the guy had a beer or two at dinner?
Also are there any links with the story as opposed to speculation?
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: inteller on July 07, 2008, 08:59:42 PM
Post by: inteller on July 07, 2008, 08:59:42 PM
hell, to get .08 on okie beer he would have had to drink a lot of them, which means he was probably inebriated by water more than anything else.[}:)]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: FOTD on July 07, 2008, 10:12:39 PM
Post by: FOTD on July 07, 2008, 10:12:39 PM
"Well I gotta get drunk and I sure do dread it
Cuz I know just what I'm gonna do
I'll start to spend my money callin' everybody honey
And I'll wind up singin' the blues
I'll spend my whole paycheck on some old wreck
And brother I can name you a few
Well I gotta get drunk and I sure do dread it
Cuz I know just what I'm gonna do
I gotta get drunk, I just can't stay sober
There's a lot of good people in town
Who like to see me holler, see me spend my dollar
And I wouldn't dream of lettin' 'em down
There's a lot of doctors tell me
That I'd better start slowing it down
But there's more old drunks than there are old doctors
So I guess we'd better have another round"
Willie Nelson (another FOTD)
Cuz I know just what I'm gonna do
I'll start to spend my money callin' everybody honey
And I'll wind up singin' the blues
I'll spend my whole paycheck on some old wreck
And brother I can name you a few
Well I gotta get drunk and I sure do dread it
Cuz I know just what I'm gonna do
I gotta get drunk, I just can't stay sober
There's a lot of good people in town
Who like to see me holler, see me spend my dollar
And I wouldn't dream of lettin' 'em down
There's a lot of doctors tell me
That I'd better start slowing it down
But there's more old drunks than there are old doctors
So I guess we'd better have another round"
Willie Nelson (another FOTD)
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 07, 2008, 10:20:52 PM
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 07, 2008, 10:20:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by HazMatCFO
I hate to see this for it's bad for everyone involved. Just thankful no one was hurt.
I agree he deserves a second chance, but he's in a position that may not be so flexible. With a DUI is your license automatically suspended and if so, for how long? Jerry is not going to be much use to Channel 8 as a reporter without a valid driver's license.
it probably wouldn't make a difference. From what I have seen around town, usually the reporter is driven by the camera man, and they are "chauffered" around.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: John Redcorn on July 08, 2008, 09:23:28 AM
Post by: John Redcorn on July 08, 2008, 09:23:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Sardonicus Rex
His license will be suspended for 6 months whether or not he's actually convicted of DUI. It gets suspended any time you blow over the limit or refuse the test, no matter what goes on your record.
I've known 5 or 6 people who've gotten DUIs (> .1%, limit back then) and none have had any kind of suspension.
Only one of those had to get the breathalyzer installed in her car. Interestingly enough I heard she drove home from a bar drunk once after she got it installed and halfway home it shut off her trashy car in the middle of the road. Honking the horn and flashing the lights. A cop stops and just follows her home the rest of the way to make sure she drives ok. (she wasn't even cute or anything)
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tjay88 on July 08, 2008, 10:15:23 AM
Post by: tjay88 on July 08, 2008, 10:15:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by John Redcorn
I've known 5 or 6 people who've gotten DUIs (> .1%, limit back then) and none have had any kind of suspension.
I don't think so. Like the previous poster said, it is automatic. Nothing to do with the court or the police. Fail or refuse the breathalyzer and your license is suspended. Although I'm sure there is some type of appeal. I'm not sure how often those would be successful.
BTW, the person that drove with the machine in her car had her license suspended/modified. That is why she had that machine. The others either had the machine, or drove on a suspended license. That is if they had the DUI's in recent history.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Radio on July 08, 2008, 12:35:22 PM
Post by: Radio on July 08, 2008, 12:35:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by patric
The incident almost seems to put a less demonic face on getting a DUI, as if it can happen to anybody, or it was just his turn.
Glad no one was hurt.
No, it can't happen to anyone.
Responsible adults, who use DD's, or a taxi,
or don't put themselfs into that situation
in the fist place will never have that happen
to them.
Never.
Responsiblity for ones actions. What a concept.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Gaspar on July 08, 2008, 01:08:50 PM
Post by: Gaspar on July 08, 2008, 01:08:50 PM
I forgive him.
He simply "misdrank" and then "misdrove."
He simply "misdrank" and then "misdrove."
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: mr.jaynes on July 08, 2008, 02:16:23 PM
Post by: mr.jaynes on July 08, 2008, 02:16:23 PM
[EDIT]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Michael71 on July 08, 2008, 02:22:58 PM
Post by: Michael71 on July 08, 2008, 02:22:58 PM
Well...Stu, at least we know it wasn't a grammar class. Do you write speeches for G.W.?
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Breadburner on July 08, 2008, 02:46:49 PM
Post by: Breadburner on July 08, 2008, 02:46:49 PM
Patric nailed....It's a big ol' money grab....
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: naenae42day on July 08, 2008, 08:40:41 PM
Post by: naenae42day on July 08, 2008, 08:40:41 PM
So..do we know yet? Was he canned? I can see them making him agree to treatment, but would be surprised if they fired him.
But hell...if they do..he could always work for Fox 23. I hear the only requirements they have are the ability to think up more ridiculous deeds to blame on pitbulls (i hear pits know the location of HOFFA), Tell us where we can find cheaper gas, and take a poll to determine is being a giant MO is worse than terrorism.
HA
But hell...if they do..he could always work for Fox 23. I hear the only requirements they have are the ability to think up more ridiculous deeds to blame on pitbulls (i hear pits know the location of HOFFA), Tell us where we can find cheaper gas, and take a poll to determine is being a giant MO is worse than terrorism.
HA
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: naenae42day on July 08, 2008, 08:47:27 PM
Post by: naenae42day on July 08, 2008, 08:47:27 PM
I had another thought...granted..DUI - WRONG, HIT & RUN - VERY WRONG.
But excuseable...maybe. I mean if the started enforcing random drug and alcohol for Radio & TV Talent...the pickins would be might slim.
I think the determination to hate your liver must be a pre-req on their resumes.
If you have ever been on a live remote...u know what I mean.
But excuseable...maybe. I mean if the started enforcing random drug and alcohol for Radio & TV Talent...the pickins would be might slim.
I think the determination to hate your liver must be a pre-req on their resumes.
If you have ever been on a live remote...u know what I mean.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: inteller on July 08, 2008, 09:57:48 PM
Post by: inteller on July 08, 2008, 09:57:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by naenae42day
So..do we know yet? Was he canned? I can see them making him agree to treatment, but would be surprised if they fired him.
But hell...if they do..he could always work for Fox 23. I hear the only requirements they have are the ability to think up more ridiculous deeds to blame on pitbulls (i hear pits know the location of HOFFA), Tell us where we can find cheaper gas, and take a poll to determine is being a giant MO is worse than terrorism.
HA
yes, plus the tulsanow
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Kenosha on July 08, 2008, 11:38:42 PM
Post by: Kenosha on July 08, 2008, 11:38:42 PM
I actually thought having the "S*** scared out of you" was a figure of speech.
Poor guy. I actually feel bad for him.
http://glassarm1.fileave.com/giordano1t.pdf
http://glassarm2.fileave.com/giordanopg2t.pdf
Poor guy. I actually feel bad for him.
http://glassarm1.fileave.com/giordano1t.pdf
http://glassarm2.fileave.com/giordanopg2t.pdf
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Hoss on July 09, 2008, 12:31:46 AM
Post by: Hoss on July 09, 2008, 12:31:46 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Kenosha
I actually thought having the "S*** scared out of you" was a figure of speech.
Poor guy. I actually feel bad for him.
http://glassarm1.fileave.com/giordano1t.pdf
http://glassarm2.fileave.com/giordanopg2t.pdf
Wow...just, wow. That other forum noted on here earlier alluded to that, but I thought that might just be embellishment. Just...wow.
I bet that's the last we see of him, at least on KTUL.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: sgrizzle on July 09, 2008, 05:50:49 AM
Post by: sgrizzle on July 09, 2008, 05:50:49 AM
reaptly? Is that a word now?
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: CoffeeBean on July 09, 2008, 09:23:00 AM
Post by: CoffeeBean on July 09, 2008, 09:23:00 AM
Remember, they all have college degrees . . .
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: unknown on July 09, 2008, 11:01:00 AM
Post by: unknown on July 09, 2008, 11:01:00 AM
[EDIT]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: patric on July 09, 2008, 12:20:20 PM
Post by: patric on July 09, 2008, 12:20:20 PM
The links to the .pdf files are dead...
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: sgrizzle on July 09, 2008, 12:26:44 PM
Post by: sgrizzle on July 09, 2008, 12:26:44 PM
Can't imagine those were a violation or illegal in any way.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: OkieDiva on July 09, 2008, 12:41:06 PM
Post by: OkieDiva on July 09, 2008, 12:41:06 PM
[EDIT]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: chlfan on July 09, 2008, 02:18:41 PM
Post by: chlfan on July 09, 2008, 02:18:41 PM
Edited by myself- humor takes a backseat, my apologies.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: AngieB on July 09, 2008, 02:41:06 PM
Post by: AngieB on July 09, 2008, 02:41:06 PM
Thank you, Moderator, for editing some of the posts in this thread.
They were unnecessarily mean, hurtful and inappropriate.
Bound to tick off the authors of those posts, but I for one, appreciate it.
Just my 2¢.
They were unnecessarily mean, hurtful and inappropriate.
Bound to tick off the authors of those posts, but I for one, appreciate it.
Just my 2¢.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: OkieDiva on July 09, 2008, 04:00:30 PM
Post by: OkieDiva on July 09, 2008, 04:00:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TulsaMINI
Thank you, Moderator, for editing some of the posts in this thread.
They were unnecessarily mean, hurtful and inappropriate.
Bound to tick off the authors of those posts, but I for one, appreciate it.
Just my 2¢.
+1.
I reiterate (because it was erased by Moderator since I replied with previous quotes) that we're more evolved than this post would lead one to believe. Let's talk consequences, hypocrisy, responsibility - not make juvenile comments regarding one's character.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: OkieDiva on July 09, 2008, 04:09:19 PM
Post by: OkieDiva on July 09, 2008, 04:09:19 PM
And speaking of responsibility... this from KTUL's website:
NewsChannel 8's Jerry Giordano released the following statement today following his arrest last week on complaints of driving under the influence and hit and run. "I would like to thank friends, loved ones and my KTUL family for an outpouring of support and encouragement during this difficult time in my personal life. I realize I have many blessings and am truly humbled and grateful.
Those who know me understand that I am a strong man -- with a strong will -- and I promise to press on no matter what. However, I also understand the seriousness and the gravity of the situation and realize there is a very long road ahead.
For those of you who have watched me on KTUL for the past 12 years, I thank you. Stay tuned."
-----
Short - interesting that there's no apology or admission that he's disappointed many. I can't imagine any good lawyer allowing that (to apologize would be to admit guilt, no?) - but from a public perception standpoint, it seems like a mistake.
NewsChannel 8's Jerry Giordano released the following statement today following his arrest last week on complaints of driving under the influence and hit and run. "I would like to thank friends, loved ones and my KTUL family for an outpouring of support and encouragement during this difficult time in my personal life. I realize I have many blessings and am truly humbled and grateful.
Those who know me understand that I am a strong man -- with a strong will -- and I promise to press on no matter what. However, I also understand the seriousness and the gravity of the situation and realize there is a very long road ahead.
For those of you who have watched me on KTUL for the past 12 years, I thank you. Stay tuned."
-----
Short - interesting that there's no apology or admission that he's disappointed many. I can't imagine any good lawyer allowing that (to apologize would be to admit guilt, no?) - but from a public perception standpoint, it seems like a mistake.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Breadburner on July 09, 2008, 05:25:31 PM
Post by: Breadburner on July 09, 2008, 05:25:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TulsaMINI
Thank you, Moderator, for editing some of the posts in this thread.
They were unnecessarily mean, hurtful and inappropriate.
Bound to tick off the authors of those posts, but I for one, appreciate it.
Just my 2¢.
I'm with you on that....
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Phireman on July 10, 2008, 04:24:26 PM
Post by: Phireman on July 10, 2008, 04:24:26 PM
Who among us has not made some regretful decisions?
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: sgrizzle on July 10, 2008, 04:43:42 PM
Post by: sgrizzle on July 10, 2008, 04:43:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Phireman
Who among us has not made some regretful decisions?
Like today, or in general?
I think I've been pretty good so far today.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 10, 2008, 10:03:08 PM
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 10, 2008, 10:03:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Phireman
Who among us has not made some regretful decisions?
regretful?? we all have...DUI and hit and run on the other hand? I HAVEN'T. Neither has anyone that I know or are friends with. I can also say I have never tried to buy off the cops or run 4 blocks while trying to get away from a wreck I caused. I can also assure you that I have not **** my pants while being read my rights and sitting in the back of a squad car waiting to be booked.
Once again, these aren't regretful acts like sleeping with a coworker or something. He purposely drove drunk, hit a parked car, and then tried to run. Once he got caught, he then tried to buy off the cops and the person that caught up to him. How sad.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: patric on July 10, 2008, 10:51:02 PM
Post by: patric on July 10, 2008, 10:51:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kenosha
I actually thought having the "S*** scared out of you" was a figure of speech.
Poor guy. I actually feel bad for him.
OMG, I cant think of a legitimate reason an officer would feel the need to mention that a suspect pooped his pants in an official police report.
How unprofessional.
I imagine that will be a question the officer will have to answer before a judge in a civil court.
Seems no one is wearing the white hat here.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: TulsaSooner on July 11, 2008, 09:55:36 AM
Post by: TulsaSooner on July 11, 2008, 09:55:36 AM
quote:
Seems no one is wearing the white hat here.
Especially not if it was in the back seat of that cruiser!
Hi-yo!!! [:D]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: CoffeeBean on July 11, 2008, 10:12:01 AM
Post by: CoffeeBean on July 11, 2008, 10:12:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by patric
OMG, I cant think of a legitimate reason an officer would feel the need to mention that a suspect pooped his pants in an official police report.
How unprofessional.
I imagine that will be a question the officer will have to answer before a judge in a civil court.
Can you explain your thinking? I don't see anything actionable about reporting facts.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: patric on July 11, 2008, 11:03:07 AM
Post by: patric on July 11, 2008, 11:03:07 AM
quote:
Originally posted by CoffeeBeanquote:
Originally posted by patric
OMG, I cant think of a legitimate reason an officer would feel the need to mention that a suspect pooped his pants in an official police report.
How unprofessional.
I imagine that will be a question the officer will have to answer before a judge in a civil court.
Can you explain your thinking? I don't see anything actionable about reporting facts.
There is such a thing as discretion.
Not all "facts" need to go into public documents.
Unless there was some compelling need to document a suspects bowel movements, the inclusion could be interpreted
as an attempt at humiliation (knowing it would be open record) and could be considered cruel and unusual.
The report should have stuck to the facts relevant to the infraction.
The City may have a valid case against Giordano, but because of this sophomoric lapse of judgement on some officers part, the reverse is also true.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 11, 2008, 11:18:30 AM
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 11, 2008, 11:18:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by patric
OMG, I cant think of a legitimate reason an officer would feel the need to mention that a suspect pooped his pants in an official police report.
I wonder if it goes to show the level of disorientation.
Ol' Jerry missed my fence by fifteen feet, apparently, taking out the fence of the direlect tear-down behind me. I am only surprised that this does not happen more often with cars flying through stop signs and punk kids bumping to Zink . . .
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: John Redcorn on July 11, 2008, 11:34:55 AM
Post by: John Redcorn on July 11, 2008, 11:34:55 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger
I wonder if it goes to show the level of disorientation.
Sounds reasonable to me. The guy against reporting the pants-fouling used an "OMG" in his post so I say reporting it = good call.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 11, 2008, 01:35:23 PM
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 11, 2008, 01:35:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by patricquote:
Originally posted by CoffeeBeanquote:
Originally posted by patric
OMG, I cant think of a legitimate reason an officer would feel the need to mention that a suspect pooped his pants in an official police report.
How unprofessional.
I imagine that will be a question the officer will have to answer before a judge in a civil court.
Can you explain your thinking? I don't see anything actionable about reporting facts.
There is such a thing as discretion.
Not all "facts" need to go into public documents.
Unless there was some compelling need to document a suspects bowel movements, the inclusion could be interpreted
as an attempt at humiliation (knowing it would be open record) and could be considered cruel and unusual.
The report should have stuck to the facts relevant to the infraction.
The City may have a valid case against Giordano, but because of this sophomoric lapse of judgement on some officers part, the reverse is also true.
How is reporting the facts cruel and unusual? After reading the report, he had already humiliated himself by driving drunk, wrecking his car, running, and then trying to buy the cops off. Would a sober person **** himself in the back of a squad car after being detained? Probably not. The police are going to show that most reasonable people would not do that. 2 thumbs up for TPD!!
When judges sentence people to unusual sentences, for instance to make them wear a sign outside a store where they stole things from reading " I stole from this store, I will never do it again, this is my punishment." That is humiliating, cruel and unusual? I think not.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Ibanez on July 11, 2008, 01:57:27 PM
Post by: Ibanez on July 11, 2008, 01:57:27 PM
(http://s133702574.onlinehome.us/pictures/blog/crappedmypants.jpg)
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: stu8749 on July 11, 2008, 10:15:11 PM
Post by: stu8749 on July 11, 2008, 10:15:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71quote:
Originally posted by stu8749
Come on! Stop trying to give this guy a break. Trust me, he ain't a very nice guy... matter of fact he is a JERK! "With a Capital J" I took his Speech Class at TCC, and he is one of the most arrogant son of a gun's out there today. I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too. But, I got a B from him. Everyday he called out students in the class and picked on them, it was so bad. He even made a girl cry, I swear to God, he called her fat. He must of gotten off on making people feel small.
When I saw his mug shot on the news, I was laughing so much I became to cry. O' how the mighty have fallen. I think he deserves whatever is coming to him, but for me, I hope he gets the needle!
"I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too."
I call bull**** on that one. Quit blowing your own horn. You guys might really be pathetic students.
"OK" I might not be the best speech giver; matter of fact, I might of deserved that B he gave me.
Either way, Jerry is still a real JERK-OFF!!! He's a short arrogant prick.
This is where I get off, "He is so rich that he can afford to buy off a cop." Ya right, he has to work a second job, he drives an old beat-up BMW, and he lives in East Tulsa... (NO offense to people that live in East Tulsa)
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: TulsaSooner on July 11, 2008, 11:07:27 PM
Post by: TulsaSooner on July 11, 2008, 11:07:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stu8749Ya right, he has to work a second job, he drives an old beat-up BMW, and he lives in East Tulsa... (NO offense to people that live in Est Tulsa)
Of course not, why would we be offended?
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Breadburner on July 11, 2008, 11:32:21 PM
Post by: Breadburner on July 11, 2008, 11:32:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stu8749quote:
Originally posted by Conan71quote:
Originally posted by stu8749
Come on! Stop trying to give this guy a break. Trust me, he ain't a very nice guy... matter of fact he is a JERK! "With a Capital J" I took his Speech Class at TCC, and he is one of the most arrogant son of a gun's out there today. I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too. But, I got a B from him. Everyday he called out students in the class and picked on them, it was so bad. He even made a girl cry, I swear to God, he called her fat. He must of gotten off on making people feel small.
When I saw his mug shot on the news, I was laughing so much I became to cry. O' how the mighty have fallen. I think he deserves whatever is coming to him, but for me, I hope he gets the needle!
"I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too."
I call bull**** on that one. Quit blowing your own horn. You guys might really be pathetic students.
"OK" I might not be the best speech giver; matter of fact, I might of deserved that B he gave me.
Either way, Jerry is still a real JERK-OFF!!! He's a short arrogant prick.
This is where I get off, "He is so rich that he can afford to buy off a cop." Ya right, he has to work a second job, he drives an old beat-up BMW, and he lives in East Tulsa... (NO offense to people that live in Est Tulsa)
Are you stoned or just stupid....?
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: rwarn17588 on July 12, 2008, 12:43:26 AM
Post by: rwarn17588 on July 12, 2008, 12:43:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by patricquote:
Originally posted by CoffeeBeanquote:
Originally posted by patric
OMG, I cant think of a legitimate reason an officer would feel the need to mention that a suspect pooped his pants in an official police report.
How unprofessional.
I imagine that will be a question the officer will have to answer before a judge in a civil court.
Can you explain your thinking? I don't see anything actionable about reporting facts.
There is such a thing as discretion.
Not all "facts" need to go into public documents.
Unless there was some compelling need to document a suspects bowel movements, the inclusion could be interpreted
as an attempt at humiliation (knowing it would be open record) and could be considered cruel and unusual.
The report should have stuck to the facts relevant to the infraction.
The City may have a valid case against Giordano, but because of this sophomoric lapse of judgement on some officers part, the reverse is also true.
If you aim to prove a suspect's intoxication, I'd suspect that the perp soiling himself is a pretty good indication that he's soused. It's another brick in the wall of evidence.
So, yes, it's relevant.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Red Arrow on July 12, 2008, 02:53:59 AM
Post by: Red Arrow on July 12, 2008, 02:53:59 AM
I am not defending JG but I guess no one here has ever had to make an emergency trip to the toilet.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: patric on July 12, 2008, 11:24:32 AM
Post by: patric on July 12, 2008, 11:24:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow
I am not defending JG but I guess no one here has ever had to make an emergency trip to the toilet.
If you follow the logic of your previous poster, it's proof that youre intoxicated.
To me, it came off as someone taking their frustrations with the media out on this guy.
It was a bad decision that TPD would probably like to make go away, if the disappearing links to the police report are any indication.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: MH2010 on July 12, 2008, 12:04:01 PM
Post by: MH2010 on July 12, 2008, 12:04:01 PM
Patric, I thought you would be talking about the importance of police dash cameras that would have recorded this event for all to see. It could even be public record so everyone could see Jerry intoxicated and soiling himself.
I think I'm more embarrassed about the misspelled word "reaptly" than I am about documenting the fact that he soiled himself.
The officer documented Giordano physical condition at the time of arrest, "unsteady on his feet, had red blood shot eyes, slurred speech and had an odor of alocholic beverage on his breath and person." as well as the "he lost control of his bowels and had feces running down his leg".
The department should never be embarrassed by an officer writing down the truth about what happened on a arrest and booking sheet.
I think I'm more embarrassed about the misspelled word "reaptly" than I am about documenting the fact that he soiled himself.
The officer documented Giordano physical condition at the time of arrest, "unsteady on his feet, had red blood shot eyes, slurred speech and had an odor of alocholic beverage on his breath and person." as well as the "he lost control of his bowels and had feces running down his leg".
The department should never be embarrassed by an officer writing down the truth about what happened on a arrest and booking sheet.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 12, 2008, 12:52:31 PM
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 12, 2008, 12:52:31 PM
Yeah, it would have been great if there were more dash cams: would have liked to see that constable in Bixby blasting five rounds in a store parking lot ineffectively at the drunk genius in cuffs who stole that car! Jiminy tap-dancing Cricket did he even hit the car?
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: rwarn17588 on July 12, 2008, 01:34:42 PM
Post by: rwarn17588 on July 12, 2008, 01:34:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by patricquote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow
I am not defending JG but I guess no one here has ever had to make an emergency trip to the toilet.
If you follow the logic of your previous poster, it's proof that youre intoxicated.
No, it means that if you take that part along with the rest of his behavior in total, the cop has shown a very strong case of intoxication.
You have to report what the suspect was doing in case he challenges his DUI in court. The soiling himself strengthens the cop's case, without a doubt.
Hell, maybe there's a silver lining in this. Maybe Giordano will get the professional help for alcoholism that I think he needs.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: MH2010 on July 12, 2008, 03:37:11 PM
Post by: MH2010 on July 12, 2008, 03:37:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Yeah, it would have been great if there were more dash cams: would have liked to see that constable in Bixby blasting five rounds in a store parking lot ineffectively at the drunk genius in cuffs who stole that car! Jiminy tap-dancing Cricket did he even hit the car?
I bet the rookie will never leave a prisoner unattended in his car again. He was told that in the academy probably 1000 times. Now he understands why.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: patric on July 12, 2008, 03:51:05 PM
Post by: patric on July 12, 2008, 03:51:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MH2010
I thought you would be talking about the importance of police dash cameras that would have recorded this event for all to see. It could even be public record so everyone could see Jerry intoxicated and soiling himself.
I would have less problem with an unbiased video record of an arrest than I would offhand remarks about someone's bowel movements.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: MH2010 on July 12, 2008, 04:21:45 PM
Post by: MH2010 on July 12, 2008, 04:21:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by patricquote:
Originally posted by MH2010
I thought you would be talking about the importance of police dash cameras that would have recorded this event for all to see. It could even be public record so everyone could see Jerry intoxicated and soiling himself.
I would have less problem with an unbiased video record of an arrest than I would offhand remarks about someone's bowel movements.
There was nothing biased about what he wrote. When the level of intoxication is high enough people lose control of their bodily functions.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: MDepr2007 on July 12, 2008, 08:20:26 PM
Post by: MDepr2007 on July 12, 2008, 08:20:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MH2010quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Yeah, it would have been great if there were more dash cams: would have liked to see that constable in Bixby blasting five rounds in a store parking lot ineffectively at the drunk genius in cuffs who stole that car! Jiminy tap-dancing Cricket did he even hit the car?
I bet the rookie will never leave a prisoner unattended in his car again. He was told that in the academy probably 1000 times. Now he understands why.
it was a TPD officer today and considering his brother he is going to catch heck....
If there had been more cams we would also have the arrest of the former city attorney for DUI on tape, before he faked a heart attack in the "sally port"and the arrest disappeared [;)]
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: webnovice on July 13, 2008, 12:28:29 AM
Post by: webnovice on July 13, 2008, 12:28:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by stu8749quote:
Originally posted by Conan71quote:
Originally posted by stu8749
Come on! Stop trying to give this guy a break. Trust me, he ain't a very nice guy... matter of fact he is a JERK! "With a Capital J" I took his Speech Class at TCC, and he is one of the most arrogant son of a gun's out there today. I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too. But, I got a B from him. Everyday he called out students in the class and picked on them, it was so bad. He even made a girl cry, I swear to God, he called her fat. He must of gotten off on making people feel small.
When I saw his mug shot on the news, I was laughing so much I became to cry. O' how the mighty have fallen. I think he deserves whatever is coming to him, but for me, I hope he gets the needle!
"I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too."
I call bull**** on that one. Quit blowing your own horn. You guys might really be pathetic students.
"OK" I might not be the best speech giver; matter of fact, I might of deserved that B he gave me.
Either way, Jerry is still a real JERK-OFF!!! He's a short arrogant prick.
This is where I get off, "He is so rich that he can afford to buy off a cop." Ya right, he has to work a second job, he drives an old beat-up BMW, and he lives in East Tulsa... (NO offense to people that live in East Tulsa)
You know, I do not think this is Jerry's first 'DUI problem", I actually think this is about his third, he has been able to 'make them go away' do to his popularity. Nevertheless, the hit and runs will be felony, esp since a resident interacted with him.
I have 'encountered' Jerry myself a few times and he is a real jerk and VERY stuck on himself.
I agree, he's a real a**-ho#! and shouldnt receive any more special treatment just because he works (or maybe worked) at channel 8
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: mr.jaynes on July 13, 2008, 02:01:28 PM
Post by: mr.jaynes on July 13, 2008, 02:01:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wavoka
(http://s133702574.onlinehome.us/pictures/blog/crappedmypants.jpg)
Watch for yourself: http://www.drinkalot.com/Videos/564/Oops_I_crapped_my_pants.htm
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: stu8749 on July 15, 2008, 10:33:54 PM
Post by: stu8749 on July 15, 2008, 10:33:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by webnovicequote:
Originally posted by stu8749quote:
Originally posted by Conan71quote:
Originally posted by stu8749
Come on! Stop trying to give this guy a break. Trust me, he ain't a very nice guy... matter of fact he is a JERK! "With a Capital J" I took his Speech Class at TCC, and he is one of the most arrogant son of a gun's out there today. I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too. But, I got a B from him. Everyday he called out students in the class and picked on them, it was so bad. He even made a girl cry, I swear to God, he called her fat. He must of gotten off on making people feel small.
When I saw his mug shot on the news, I was laughing so much I became to cry. O' how the mighty have fallen. I think he deserves whatever is coming to him, but for me, I hope he gets the needle!
"I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too."
I call bull**** on that one. Quit blowing your own horn. You guys might really be pathetic students.
"OK" I might not be the best speech giver; matter of fact, I might of deserved that B he gave me.
Either way, Jerry is still a real JERK-OFF!!! He's a short arrogant prick.
This is where I get off, "He is so rich that he can afford to buy off a cop." Ya right, he has to work a second job, he drives an old beat-up BMW, and he lives in East Tulsa... (NO offense to people that live in East Tulsa)
You know, I do not think this is Jerry's first 'DUI problem", I actually think this is about his third, he has been able to 'make them go away' do to his popularity. Nevertheless, the hit and runs will be felony, esp since a resident interacted with him.
I have 'encountered' Jerry myself a few times and he is a real jerk and VERY stuck on himself.
I agree, he's a real a**-ho#! and shouldnt receive any more special treatment just because he works (or maybe worked) at channel 8
I agree, this can't be jeryy's first DUI, I'm sure that Crazy A** Drunk got a boat load of them back in the day.
Any word yet on his future at Channel 8?
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Breadburner on July 15, 2008, 10:49:30 PM
Post by: Breadburner on July 15, 2008, 10:49:30 PM
No injury...No Felony....
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: stu8749 on July 16, 2008, 05:10:50 PM
Post by: stu8749 on July 16, 2008, 05:10:50 PM
I'm pretty sure you'll get the death penalty in Texas if you take a dump in the back of a squad car.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: theclaw01 on July 16, 2008, 10:43:32 PM
Post by: theclaw01 on July 16, 2008, 10:43:32 PM
Okay.. I just joined solely to reply to this thread that I ran across on google.com©. I simply cannot believe that anyone has the gall to attempt to defend this cretin. This guy is forty-seven years old, and a member of the press. To be sure this guy has been invited to many events that involve liquor in his life and should know when he's too drunk to drive. What's more is that he attempted to bribe the cops (according to the report) asking 'what would it take to make this go away'. No respect from him regarding the enormity of his offense, and no remorse from me in flushing this guy onward to his next TV job in some market where he doesn't have a record.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: sgrizzle on July 17, 2008, 06:50:15 AM
Post by: sgrizzle on July 17, 2008, 06:50:15 AM
quote:
Originally posted by theclaw01
Okay.. I just joined solely to reply to this thread that I ran across on google.com©. I simply cannot believe that anyone has the gall to attempt to defend this cretin. This guy is forty-seven years old, and a member of the press. To be sure this guy has been invited to many events that involve liquor in his life and should know when he's too drunk to drive. What's more is that he attempted to bribe the cops (according to the report) asking 'what would it take to make this go away'. No respect from him regarding the enormity of his offense, and no remorse from me in flushing this guy onward to his next TV job in some market where he doesn't have a record.
Hey, what's the deal?
There are far bigger drunks on TV right now than Jerry. The police didn't take his "what would it take to make this go away" as a real bribe, just drunken ramblings.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: teddw2ds on July 17, 2008, 12:59:00 PM
Post by: teddw2ds on July 17, 2008, 12:59:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by patric
OMG, I cant think of a legitimate reason an officer would feel the need to mention that a suspect pooped his pants in an official police report.
How unprofessional.
It's standard procedure to detail all the facts of an arrest. Not doing so would leave room for all sorts of legal challenges or outright false accusations.
The suspect could claim he was treated cruelly by the officers by being forced to sit in his own feces for a lengthy period of time. Instead they documented that EMSA was called to clean him up.
Imagine if the arresting officer had NOT included that in the report and there was an internal investigation. It would look like they were trying to cover up misdeeds on their part by not including it in the report.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Conan71 on July 17, 2008, 01:31:30 PM
Post by: Conan71 on July 17, 2008, 01:31:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by teddw2dsquote:
Originally posted by patric
OMG, I cant think of a legitimate reason an officer would feel the need to mention that a suspect pooped his pants in an official police report.
How unprofessional.
It's standard procedure to detail all the facts of an arrest. Not doing so would leave room for all sorts of legal challenges or outright false accusations.
The suspect could claim he was treated cruelly by the officers by being forced to sit in his own feces for a lengthy period of time. Instead they documented that EMSA was called to clean him up.
Imagine if the arresting officer had NOT included that in the report and there was an internal investigation. It would look like they were trying to cover up misdeeds on their part by not including it in the report.
I would tend to agree with you on that.
The issue seems to be here that most people don't have enough notoriety to create the curiosity for someone to post their police report on a public forum. I'd also imagine that very few of us on here have ever seen a police report that said someone crapped their pants so it would be easy to assume someone was sharpening his fangs based on who the arrestee was.
Just based on the fact that some of our police cruisers are equipped-with injection-molded rear seats is pretty good evidence that the release of bodily functions in a police car isn't terribly uncommon and anticipated.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Gold on July 17, 2008, 05:04:55 PM
Post by: Gold on July 17, 2008, 05:04:55 PM
Looks like he is staying at KTUL. I've met him and he's a good guy. I've had a couple of friends with DUIs and they are also good people. Good people make mistakes.
Here's what aired on KTUL.
http://cfc.ktul.com/videoondemand.cfm?id=18720&ref=home
Here's what aired on KTUL.
http://cfc.ktul.com/videoondemand.cfm?id=18720&ref=home
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: theclaw01 on July 17, 2008, 06:06:29 PM
Post by: theclaw01 on July 17, 2008, 06:06:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzlequote:
Originally posted by theclaw01
Okay.. I just joined solely to reply to this thread that I ran across on google.com©. I simply cannot believe that anyone has the gall to attempt to defend this cretin. This guy is forty-seven years old, and a member of the press. To be sure this guy has been invited to many events that involve liquor in his life and should know when he's too drunk to drive. What's more is that he attempted to bribe the cops (according to the report) asking 'what would it take to make this go away'. No respect from him regarding the enormity of his offense, and no remorse from me in flushing this guy onward to his next TV job in some market where he doesn't have a record.
Hey, what's the deal?
There are far bigger drunks on TV right now than Jerry. The police didn't take his "what would it take to make this go away" as a real bribe, just drunken ramblings.
If there are far bigger drunks on TV that end up in people's front yard, they should get clipped. If that's how KTUL wants their anchors to behave then that's another reason not to watch them.
I'll go solicit a prostitute then make a bit for KTUL to show. No harm really... I'm sure we all know someone who has used a hooker before.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: marc on July 17, 2008, 10:23:32 PM
Post by: marc on July 17, 2008, 10:23:32 PM
I saw him back on the air tonight, doing a report on the 10PM newscast.
He made a mistake, but he is a good reporter.
He made a mistake, but he is a good reporter.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: OkieDiva on July 18, 2008, 12:48:38 PM
Post by: OkieDiva on July 18, 2008, 12:48:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Gold
Looks like he is staying at KTUL. I've met him and he's a good guy. I've had a couple of friends with DUIs and they are also good people. Good people make mistakes.
Here's what aired on KTUL.
http://cfc.ktul.com/videoondemand.cfm?id=18720&ref=home
And yet again, no apology, no admission of doing something dangerous and selfish. This is horrible public relations. When you make a mistake, you apologize - plain and simple - before you can expect forgiveness. This is very disappointing from KTUL. An I-know-how-serious-this-is statement is a very different thing from an apology and admission of responsibility. I'm disgusted.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Conan71 on July 18, 2008, 01:05:17 PM
Post by: Conan71 on July 18, 2008, 01:05:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by OkieDivaquote:
Originally posted by Gold
Looks like he is staying at KTUL. I've met him and he's a good guy. I've had a couple of friends with DUIs and they are also good people. Good people make mistakes.
Here's what aired on KTUL.
http://cfc.ktul.com/videoondemand.cfm?id=18720&ref=home
And yet again, no apology, no admission of doing something dangerous and selfish. This is horrible public relations. When you make a mistake, you apologize - plain and simple - before you can expect forgiveness. This is very disappointing from KTUL. An I-know-how-serious-this-is statement is a very different thing from an apology and admission of responsibility. I'm disgusted.
I would guess it's high-profile enough his attorney and attorney's for Channel 8 have advised him to say no more at this point. I'd be willing to bet the only statement he's made so far was written in the presence of his attorney.
Look, I take DUI seriously, I lost a close family member due to someone else's lack of responsibility. But if it's bothering you that bad he's never issued an "apology", quit watching Channel 8.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: AngieB on July 18, 2008, 01:13:00 PM
Post by: AngieB on July 18, 2008, 01:13:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Gold
Looks like he is staying at KTUL. I've met him and he's a good guy. I've had a couple of friends with DUIs and they are also good people. Good people make mistakes.
Here's what aired on KTUL.
http://cfc.ktul.com/videoondemand.cfm?id=18720&ref=home
He's turning it into a story. Just what MH2010 suggested. Makes you think he might have been reading this thread, huh?
quote:
Originally posted by MH2010
<snip>
I think it would be neat if he would allow a camera crew to go with him during his whole DUI process (court, talking to his insurance to see how much it will go up or if they cancel his coverage, finding rides to work or paying a whole lot of money to get a breath device put on his vehicle, DUI school ect.)
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: PonderInc on July 18, 2008, 03:44:46 PM
Post by: PonderInc on July 18, 2008, 03:44:46 PM
I think this is a really smart and brave move by Giordano. Most of us will never have to endure this level of public scrutiny and involvement in our private and professional lives. I hope this will allow him to move on with life.
I wonder how many posters on this forum have been arrested for a DUI or DWI? Did you have to deal with this level of publicity and ridicule? Was there a forum thread written about you by total strangers who delighted in humiliating you? Did it nearly end your career?
Ever had a few drinks and then driven home? Most people I know have (at one point or another) driven when they shouldn't. Giordano had a BAC of .08. I bet most people on this forum have experienced this level of intoxication themselves...and then driven home, or ridden with someone who was equally affected. If you made it home safely, then you're lucky.
Remember Eddie Sutton? He was driving with .22 BAC. Almost 3 times more than JG.
I wonder how many posters on this forum have been arrested for a DUI or DWI? Did you have to deal with this level of publicity and ridicule? Was there a forum thread written about you by total strangers who delighted in humiliating you? Did it nearly end your career?
Ever had a few drinks and then driven home? Most people I know have (at one point or another) driven when they shouldn't. Giordano had a BAC of .08. I bet most people on this forum have experienced this level of intoxication themselves...and then driven home, or ridden with someone who was equally affected. If you made it home safely, then you're lucky.
Remember Eddie Sutton? He was driving with .22 BAC. Almost 3 times more than JG.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Townsend on July 18, 2008, 03:54:56 PM
Post by: Townsend on July 18, 2008, 03:54:56 PM
.08?
I'm not making light of this but I figure I hit .08 after 2 good beers. How the heck did he do all the things he did at a .08?
I think I lived my early twenties on a .08 or above.
I'm not making light of this but I figure I hit .08 after 2 good beers. How the heck did he do all the things he did at a .08?
I think I lived my early twenties on a .08 or above.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Michael71 on July 18, 2008, 04:41:30 PM
Post by: Michael71 on July 18, 2008, 04:41:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Townsend
.08?
I'm not making light of this but I figure I hit .08 after 2 good beers. How the heck did he do all the things he did at a .08?
I think I lived my early twenties on a .08 or above.
I can vouch for Townsends 20's...although, I think it's higher now!
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: AngieB on July 18, 2008, 05:03:44 PM
Post by: AngieB on July 18, 2008, 05:03:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PonderInc
I think this is a really smart and brave move by Giordano. Most of us will never have to endure this level of public scrutiny and involvement in our private and professional lives. I hope this will allow him to move on with life.
I wonder how many posters on this forum have been arrested for a DUI or DWI? Did you have to deal with this level of publicity and ridicule? Was there a forum thread written about you by total strangers who delighted in humiliating you? Did it nearly end your career?
Ever had a few drinks and then driven home? Most people I know have (at one point or another) driven when they shouldn't. Giordano had a BAC of .08. I bet most people on this forum have experienced this level of intoxication themselves...and then driven home, or ridden with someone who was equally affected. If you made it home safely, then you're lucky.
Remember Eddie Sutton? He was driving with .22 BAC. Almost 3 times more than JG.
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Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 18, 2008, 11:10:58 PM
Post by: TUalum0982 on July 18, 2008, 11:10:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PonderInc
I think this is a really smart and brave move by Giordano. Most of us will never have to endure this level of public scrutiny and involvement in our private and professional lives. I hope this will allow him to move on with life.
I wonder how many posters on this forum have been arrested for a DUI or DWI? Did you have to deal with this level of publicity and ridicule? Was there a forum thread written about you by total strangers who delighted in humiliating you? Did it nearly end your career?
Ever had a few drinks and then driven home? Most people I know have (at one point or another) driven when they shouldn't. Giordano had a BAC of .08. I bet most people on this forum have experienced this level of intoxication themselves...and then driven home, or ridden with someone who was equally affected. If you made it home safely, then you're lucky.
Remember Eddie Sutton? He was driving with .22 BAC. Almost 3 times more than JG.
We all remember Eddie Sutton. Did Sutton get charged with hit and run? Did he try to run off when a citizen was chasing him? did he try to buy off the cops? Did he **** himself? Did JG apologize? Atleast Sutton attempted to apologize in a statement.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: marc on July 19, 2008, 10:11:04 AM
Post by: marc on July 19, 2008, 10:11:04 AM
quote:
Originally posted by PonderInc
I think this is a really smart and brave move by Giordano. Most of us will never have to endure this level of public scrutiny and involvement in our private and professional lives. I hope this will allow him to move on with life.
I wonder how many posters on this forum have been arrested for a DUI or DWI? Did you have to deal with this level of publicity and ridicule? Was there a forum thread written about you by total strangers who delighted in humiliating you? Did it nearly end your career?
Ever had a few drinks and then driven home? Most people I know have (at one point or another) driven when they shouldn't. Giordano had a BAC of .08. I bet most people on this forum have experienced this level of intoxication themselves...and then driven home, or ridden with someone who was equally affected. If you made it home safely, then you're lucky.
Remember Eddie Sutton? He was driving with .22 BAC. Almost 3 times more than JG.
I completely agree. I am sure he will pay all the fines, penalties, etc, that anyone else would have to.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: patric on July 19, 2008, 11:10:29 AM
Post by: patric on July 19, 2008, 11:10:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982
We all remember Eddie Sutton. Did Sutton get charged with hit and run?
He drove off after he hit Teresa Barnard and only stopped when the tree he subsequently hit wouldnt move.
quote:
did he try to buy off the cops?
He owned the cops. They were also sued for letting him drive away after their traffic stop.
quote:
Did JG apologize?
There's a video of him doing that.
Difference is, Sutton sent someone to the hospital.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Hoss on July 19, 2008, 11:24:00 AM
Post by: Hoss on July 19, 2008, 11:24:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by patricquote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982
We all remember Eddie Sutton. Did Sutton get charged with hit and run?
He drove off after he hit Teresa Barnard and only stopped when the tree he subsequently hit wouldnt move.quote:
did he try to buy off the cops?
He owned the cops. They were also sued for letting him drive away after their traffic stop.quote:
Did JG apologize?
There's a video of him doing that.
Difference is, Sutton sent someone to the hospital.
JG showed appreciation for those supporting him. There's a difference between that and an apology, which he has NOT offered. Yet.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: sgrizzle on July 19, 2008, 03:37:46 PM
Post by: sgrizzle on July 19, 2008, 03:37:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Townsend
.08?
I'm not making light of this but I figure I hit .08 after 2 good beers. How the heck did he do all the things he did at a .08?
I think I lived my early twenties on a .08 or above.
Some people can't handle alcohol.
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: peggysbooks on July 28, 2008, 10:31:53 AM
Post by: peggysbooks on July 28, 2008, 10:31:53 AM
I found a website that is very interesting and tried to post its link here without success. It is the official Police Report - after reading it, I am a bit surprised that Giordano is still on air with Channel 8. I found the report on thelostogle website (search for Jerry Giordano - under his mugshot, click on police report-SS, address, phone, etc has been blacked out, thank goodness). The AP picked up the story 7/6/2008: Tulsa television news anchor arrested - By The Associated Press. "Tulsa County prosecutor Steve Kunzweiler says Jerry Giordano faces charges of driving under the influence of alcohol and leaving the scene of an accident involving property damage. Giordano has worked since 1996 for television station KTUL." AP (7/10/08) "He (Jerry) issued a statement on the station's Web site saying he promises 'to press on no matter what' but that he also understands 'the seriousness and the gravity of the situation.'"
I've read that he is under the spotlight more because he is a 'co-called' celebrity. Guess what! That goes with the territory and I am sure that the media attention is no surprise and should have been a deterrent for him. AND working as a news anchor/reporter, do you really think he would let one of us off the hook if he could get a story?
KTUL has certainly fired other employees for similar offenses. Wonder what the deal is - as long as we don't know - theories will abound and I know that I have one!
I've read that he is under the spotlight more because he is a 'co-called' celebrity. Guess what! That goes with the territory and I am sure that the media attention is no surprise and should have been a deterrent for him. AND working as a news anchor/reporter, do you really think he would let one of us off the hook if he could get a story?
KTUL has certainly fired other employees for similar offenses. Wonder what the deal is - as long as we don't know - theories will abound and I know that I have one!
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: patric on September 12, 2008, 11:04:58 AM
Post by: patric on September 12, 2008, 11:04:58 AM
This was posted by KOTV,
Im not sure how KTUL would approach a chronic DUI piece now:
http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=8997261
Im not sure how KTUL would approach a chronic DUI piece now:
http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=8997261
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: Ronda74146 on September 14, 2008, 03:12:14 PM
Post by: Ronda74146 on September 14, 2008, 03:12:14 PM
I noticed Jerry is not anchor on weekends anymore. has his cas been to court yet?
Title: Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?
Post by: MH2010 on September 14, 2008, 03:47:09 PM
Post by: MH2010 on September 14, 2008, 03:47:09 PM
I think 8 could be reviewed as chronic.
http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=9004019
Officers Injured By Drunk Driver
Posted: Sep 13, 2008 04:29 PM CDT
The two officers were taken to the hospital with minor back injuries.
TULSA, OK -- An overnight accident sends two police officers to the hospital. The officers were working a traffic stop near 2400 South Memorial when a drunk driver struck their cars from behind.
The two officers were taken to the hospital with minor back injuries.
The suspect, Robert Cole, was also taken to the hospital. Police say this was Cole's eighth drunk driving offense.-