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Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Online on June 16, 2008, 06:23:14 PM
to live near downtown?

Hi people, my job will be relocating me to Tulsa here in a couple of months and I am trying to locate a nice place to live near downtown.

I have been to Tulsa twice and did not find anything remotely what I wanted to call home.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Online on June 16, 2008, 06:43:02 PM
I am not looking for a realtor's name, I am just looking for some street addresses so that I can go take a look for myself.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: waterboy on June 16, 2008, 07:58:33 PM
Maple Ridge is near downtown. Roughly speaking from 15th to 31st, Riverside to Peoria. Older homes built in the art deco period to depression era mostly. Resevoir Hill north of downtown is of the same era with a beautiful view of downtown. Gilcrease Museum and a 70's addition, Gilcrease Hills, is nearby.

Utica Square area includes some of Tulsa's finest neighborhoods and Philbrook Museum. The homes run from 21st to 41st, Peoria to Harvard. Homes date from 1920's to late 50's. Lots of Ozzie & Harriet, Father Know's Best style homes. This neighborhood morphs into Ranch Acres which is 50's/60's rambler style homes.

Bolewood at 41st & Lewis has large estate style homes mostly from the 50's-70's. Brookside is bounded on the West by Peoria from 31st to 41st and has many interesting cottages and new constructiona as well.

All these neighborhoods are subject to newer infill construction if you like that sort of thing. If you can't find something in those close to downtown neighborhoods you probably will not be happy here.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Online on June 16, 2008, 08:49:45 PM
Wow, thank you for the information.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: waterboy on June 16, 2008, 09:36:04 PM
I'm sure I left out some perfectly fine 'hoods. Welcome and bon chance.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Renaissance on June 16, 2008, 09:58:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Online

to live near downtown?

Hi people, my job will be relocating me to Tulsa here in a couple of months and I am trying to locate a nice place to live near downtown.

I have been to Tulsa twice and did not find anything remotely what I wanted to call home.



What do you want to call home?

Highrise condos, townhomes, lofts, or a single-family home?  They're all within two miles of downtown.  Depends on your price point and your needs.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: USRufnex on June 16, 2008, 10:08:11 PM
If you like "urban walkability," its a rarity in Tulsa... but it's still here, a few blocks here and there...

15th between Peoria and Utica is "Cherry Street" and has a nice little combination of restaurants and little shops... if you don't like mowing a lawn, walk north off 15th St. on  Rockford, St Louis & maybe Trenton streets, there's some new loft-style condos going up, some may have some good views of downtown from the balconies... and Brookside area off 35th on Peoria...



Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 17, 2008, 08:42:53 AM
What price range are you looking at and where are you moving from, what do you expect?

IF you have $1,000,000 to spend you can find a nice number of places to call home within 5-10 minutes of downtown REAL easily.    Go to Woodward park/Rose Gardens, and drive around - tons of very nice houses in the upper price rangers (350K+++).

The area immediately around downtown is very hit or miss.  But the areas covered above would be your best bets.  Downtown Tulsa was ignored for several decades and is now trying to get back on track.  But there are many "midtown" areas that are very livable and at affordable no matter what you are looking for... all within 10-15 minutes of downtown.

Why not get an apartment for 6 months to figure out what you prefer in this area?

And an early welcome to Tulsa!
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: TheArtist on June 17, 2008, 09:38:35 AM
Upscale urban or upscale suburban?    Upscale loft or condo living, or upscale traditional house?  Hip urban area or quiet traditional area?

Those describe 2 very different types of lifestyle options and usually a person definitely prefers one or the other. We dont have any real urban areas yet sorry to say.

Utica Square is more your traditional, older more settled, upscale area. Where as Brookside and Cherry Streets are the closest things we have to more "trendy" and hip, areas.  All are budding, walkable districts but are not as urban as you would find in larger cities.  
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: midtownnewbie on June 17, 2008, 10:14:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

Maple Ridge is near downtown. Roughly speaking from 15th to 31st, Riverside to Peoria. Older homes built in the art deco period to depression era mostly. Resevoir Hill north of downtown is of the same era with a beautiful view of downtown. Gilcrease Museum and a 70's addition, Gilcrease Hills, is nearby.

Utica Square area includes some of Tulsa's finest neighborhoods and Philbrook Museum. The homes run from 21st to 41st, Peoria to Harvard. Homes date from 1920's to late 50's. Lots of Ozzie & Harriet, Father Know's Best style homes. This neighborhood morphs into Ranch Acres which is 50's/60's rambler style homes.

Bolewood at 41st & Lewis has large estate style homes mostly from the 50's-70's. Brookside is bounded on the West by Peoria from 31st to 41st and has many interesting cottages and new constructiona as well.

All these neighborhoods are subject to newer infill construction if you like that sort of thing. If you can't find something in those close to downtown neighborhoods you probably will not be happy here.



Great overview!  We should bookmark your post for future questions!
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: TulsaFan-inTexas on June 17, 2008, 01:56:01 PM
All very good, informative and friendly posts. If and when I move to Tulsa, I'm consulting with you guys.. Waterboy, I may just put you on retainer.  [:D]
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: waterboy on June 17, 2008, 02:42:08 PM
I am humbled by your compliments.[8D] One can never get enough...
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Renaissance on June 17, 2008, 03:34:20 PM
Don't forget Riverview.  It abuts both downtown and the river and includes high rises, row houses, condo lofts and single family homes.   Many of these residences are quite upscale.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: FOTD on June 17, 2008, 04:34:36 PM
Midtowners feeding frenzy in progress....
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Conan71 on June 17, 2008, 05:11:34 PM
Here's the cool part about Tulsa:

If you can't find the home you want, you can buy a perfectly good one in an established neighborhood, tear it down, and build something you like.  You don't even need the approval of your neighbors to do it!

Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2008, 05:26:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Here's the cool part about Tulsa:

If you can't find the home you want, you can buy a perfectly good one in an established neighborhood, tear it down, and build something you like.  You don't even need the approval of your neighbors to do it!



Right Conan.  When I see threads started like this, and there have been many over the past few years, I think they are fake.  The poster said they have been to Tulsa twice and not found any upscale properties close to downtown?  Give me a break.  "online" is a faker.  Maybe they are local realtors trying to set out feelers on impressions of local neighborhoods, or whatever.  But I highly suspect some pretext involved, and "online" is not asking honest, legitamate questions on his own behalf.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: TheArtist on June 17, 2008, 06:23:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Here's the cool part about Tulsa:

If you can't find the home you want, you can buy a perfectly good one in an established neighborhood, tear it down, and build something you like.  You don't even need the approval of your neighbors to do it!



Right Conan.  When I see threads started like this, and there have been many over the past few years, I think they are fake.  The poster said they have been to Tulsa twice and not found any upscale properties close to downtown?  Give me a break.  "online" is a faker.  Maybe they are local realtors trying to set out feelers on impressions of local neighborhoods, or whatever.  But I highly suspect some pretext involved, and "online" is not asking honest, legitamate questions on his own behalf.



You would be amazed at how many people that live in Tulsa dont know anything about whats around downtown. Heck I am still amazed at how many people that have lived here for years, when I ask them if they have been to Philbrook, they go "What? Whats that?".

Plus, if you were visiting Tulsa and went anywhere north of downtown, east of downtown or immediately south,,, your not going to find anything that would be considered upscale.


Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Here's the cool part about Tulsa:

If you can't find the home you want, you can buy a perfectly good one in an established neighborhood, tear it down, and build something you like.  You don't even need the approval of your neighbors to do it!



Right Conan.  When I see threads started like this, and there have been many over the past few years, I think they are fake.  The poster said they have been to Tulsa twice and not found any upscale properties close to downtown?  Give me a break.  "online" is a faker.  Maybe they are local realtors trying to set out feelers on impressions of local neighborhoods, or whatever.  But I highly suspect some pretext involved, and "online" is not asking honest, legitamate questions on his own behalf.



You would be amazed at how many people that live in Tulsa dont know anything about whats around downtown. Heck I am still amazed at how many people that have lived here for years, when I ask them if they have been to Philbrook, they go "What? Whats that?".

Plus, if you were visiting Tulsa and went anywhere north of downtown, east of downtown or immediately south,,, your not going to find anything that would be considered upscale.



I agree with you Artist, but I still think the originator of this thread "online" and their questions are pure artificial bunk.  I find it hard to believe that any visitor to Tulsa on a housing mission looking for "upscale" housing close to downtown, would not discover Maple Ridge, Sunset Terrace, Riverview, Resivour Hill, and all the "old money" neighborhoods surrounding downtown Tulsa.  Let's see what "online's" further responses are.  Few or none, I presume.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: TheArtist on June 17, 2008, 09:58:05 PM
I suppose if I were visiting a city and looking for something... I would simply ask. Anyone in or near downtown or mid-town would know where the nice areas are. So it does sound a bit fishy that the person didnt ask anyone when they were here. Unless they werent seriously looking when they were here and were just hoping to get a feel for the areas around downtown. Usually when I go to a city thats one of the things I like going to see is the "posh" areas... See how their mansions and nice neighborhoods stack up to ours. [8D]  Needless to say for being such a small, young, city, Tulsa can readily hang with cities many times its size in that department. [:D]

Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Online on June 17, 2008, 10:31:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Steve


Right Conan.  When I see threads started like this, and there have been many over the past few years, I think they are fake.  The poster said they have been to Tulsa twice and not found any upscale properties close to downtown?  Give me a break.  "online" is a faker.  Maybe they are local realtors trying to set out feelers on impressions of local neighborhoods, or whatever.  But I highly suspect some pretext involved, and "online" is not asking honest, legitamate questions on his own behalf.



Ok, who are you the Tulsa forum police? A question is a question, no matter if you like it or not. Its kinda hard to travel when you arrive on a plane and have only a couple of hours to explore the town. The reason I asked, is because I really want to get to know the town and find a place to live. Lets see, I have asked one question, and you are accusing me of something? I hope you don't represent the people of the Tulsa area.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: waterboy on June 18, 2008, 07:56:55 AM
Online, BEWARE THE LOCALS! I am just mildly surprised at the conspiratorial nature of these posts.

Considering that there are lots of people who reside here who have no idea of life outside the suburbs. They are astounded and terrified of folks who beg for money and amble mindlessly along city streets. People who think raw sewage goes into the river. People who think Democrats=Liberals=Godless/Socialist/Commies. People who see teenage punk-donkey spray can graffiti and think gangs are massing. People who wouldn't go downtown unless its for Mayfest. Considering all that....I am only mildly surprised.

I think you'll find most Tulsan's are quite genteel and welcoming in nature. These guys usually are too though we are a little more paranoid and hostile on this forum.[;)]
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 18, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
My favorite thread was "gang fears" because someone saw shoes hanging from a wire on Cheery Street.  [:)]  As you can see, online, most people are helpful.  But like any good town, we have our characters too.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Renaissance on June 18, 2008, 11:16:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Online

quote:
Originally posted by Steve


Right Conan.  When I see threads started like this, and there have been many over the past few years, I think they are fake.  The poster said they have been to Tulsa twice and not found any upscale properties close to downtown?  Give me a break.  "online" is a faker.  Maybe they are local realtors trying to set out feelers on impressions of local neighborhoods, or whatever.  But I highly suspect some pretext involved, and "online" is not asking honest, legitamate questions on his own behalf.



Ok, who are you the Tulsa forum police? A question is a question, no matter if you like it or not. Its kinda hard to travel when you arrive on a plane and have only a couple of hours to explore the town. The reason I asked, is because I really want to get to know the town and find a place to live. Lets see, I have asked one question, and you are accusing me of something? I hope you don't represent the people of the Tulsa area.



Relax.  Just tell us what you're looking for and we'll point you there.  Don't get drawn into a fight.  Realtor or real person, we're happy to enlighten you about the town [8D]
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: tim huntzinger on June 18, 2008, 11:20:58 AM
You looking at renting/owning apartment/condo/house? Price range? You handy with home repairs or want turn-key? You have kiddies?  Hard to make a solid recommendation on the data.  Tell us more.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Hometown on June 18, 2008, 12:35:34 PM
There is a wonderful old neighborhood from the 1920s, Tulsa's hey day, 10 minutes north of downtown that is something of a secret.  Reservoir Hill is racially and economically diverse and is full of historic two-story houses on very large lots and it's not far from Tulsa Country Club.  Peacocks amble around while bunnies dart from bush to bush.  Deer, foxes, cardinals and martins also call "The Hill" home.  The neighborhood is unusually tight knit with a neighborhood association and annual picnic and annual Christmas party.

Right now there is a wondeful old red brick mansion available.  It's on one of the best blocks.  It listed for $275,000 but the price has been reduced.  I think McGraw Realtors has it.  There is also a home for sale by owner.  It's one of the old Cass Mayo built homes.  I don't know what they are asking.  I've been in the neighborhood for three years now and sale prices have ranged from $150,000 to $340,000.  There are good private and public schools not far.  But this neighborhood is not for everyone.  There is nothing cookie cutter about it.  Residents range from oilmen to curators and artists and secretaries.  I also suggest you check out Brady Heights just north of downtown and the Owen Park neighborhood, also on the northside -- though Reservoir Hill with its spectacular views of downtown is the real jewel on the northside.

Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: inteller on June 20, 2008, 01:52:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Online


Hi people, my job will be relocating me to Tulsa here in a couple of months and I am trying to locate a nice place to live near downtown.





good luck with that, and good luck to your company.  I bet you feel like Chandler from Friends eh?
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: TheArtist on June 20, 2008, 07:15:57 PM
We just really need to know what kind of lifestyle and living arragnement you like. We got that you like upscale, but upscale what? You want a big home with a yard or a highrise condo? Trendy, bustling, youthful area, or quiet and laid back? There are several relatively upscale areas that have those elements near downtown, but each area can be very different.

If we send you to one area thats full of upscale mansions and your looking for a trendy, urban, condo, your going to be right back in the same situation..."not finding anything remotely what I wanted to call home."

Are you looking for upscale like this?...

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5388/mloftsbrooksidewebez7.jpg)

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6720/cherrylofts3webqj2.jpg)

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8506/trentonbi6.jpg)

Or upscale this?....

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4784/5sgothicwebnu4.jpg)

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9498/3scastlewebcroplc6.jpg)

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3584/skellymansion2webuc8.jpg)

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5169/img3066webxj8.jpg)

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4771/colonial1awebbw7.jpg)

Or upscale this?...

http://www.uticaplace.com/

http://www.philtower.com/

Or something different entirely?

All of those could be considered upscale and are in or near downtown, but all are very different and found in different areas.  



Title: Where are the upscale areas?
Post by: Red Arrow on June 21, 2008, 12:43:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

We just really need to know what kind of lifestyle and living arragnement you like. We got that you like upscale, but upscale what? You want a big home with a yard or a highrise condo? Trendy, bustling, youthful area, or quiet and laid back? There are several relatively upscale areas that have those elements near downtown, but each area can be very different.

If we send you to one area thats full of upscale mansions and your looking for a trendy, urban, condo, your going to be right back in the same situation..."not finding anything remotely what I wanted to call home."

Are you looking for upscale like this?...

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5388/mloftsbrooksidewebez7.jpg)

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6720/cherrylofts3webqj2.jpg)

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8506/trentonbi6.jpg)

Or upscale this?....

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4784/5sgothicwebnu4.jpg)

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9498/3scastlewebcroplc6.jpg)

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3584/skellymansion2webuc8.jpg)

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5169/img3066webxj8.jpg)

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4771/colonial1awebbw7.jpg)

Or upscale this?...

http://www.uticaplace.com/

http://www.philtower.com/

Or something different entirely?

All of those could be considered upscale and are in or near downtown, but all are very different and found in different areas.  







$499,000 for a slab faced (in my opinion, ugly) apartment in Brookside. I don't want to hear any more complaints about the oil companies.
Title: Where are the upscale areas?
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