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Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: RecycleMichael on June 06, 2008, 08:46:35 PM
I have been watching the sales on beer and if you buy either kegs of Lone Star for $80 or 12 packs of Keystone Light for $5.99...you can get cheap beer for between $5 and $5.25 a gallon.

Now I am seeing 90% gasoline with 10% ethanol advertised all over town for $3.79.

If this keeps up, gasoline will be more expensive than beer. What do I do...drink or drive?
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: 1099paralegal on June 07, 2008, 09:04:06 AM
Actually, the REAL question is EAT or drive?  Party's OVER, suckaaaaaaas!  Will the REAL Village IDIOT please STAND Up?  Reality....BITES.

By JASON WOMACK World Staff Writer
6/7/2008
Last Modified: 6/7/2008  2:49 AM

The number of motorists who have hit empty has jumped nearly 50 percent this year, says AAA.

High fuel prices have left Oklahoma drivers stranded with no money, no gas cans and no gas.

The number of motorists who have hit empty on Tulsa-area streets and highways has jumped nearly 50 percent this year over last, according to AAA Oklahoma.

Chuck Mai, a spokesman with the travel club, said that many AAA members are rounding corners hoping that they will find lower gas prices.

"A lot of people are thinking that at some point gas prices are going to come down again," he said. "Unfortunately, sometimes they get caught short."

Mike Thornbrugh, a spokesman with Tulsa-based QuikTrip, said he was "sick to his stomach" after the close of trading.

"This thing is totally out of control," he said. "It is not being driven by supply and demand. It's being driven by greedy speculator bastards."

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol said it has also seen an increase in calls from stranded motorists who have run out of gas and, at current fuel prices, can't afford to buy more.  

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Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: TUalum0982 on June 07, 2008, 10:17:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by 1099paralegal

Actually, the REAL question is EAT or drive?  Party's OVER, suckaaaaaaas!  Will the REAL Village IDIOT please STAND Up?  Reality....BITES.




A Tulsa man died Thursday night, hours after he crashed his bike in Okmulgee County.

Paul Tay of Tulsa, 32, lost control of his bicycle on a gravel road near Henryetta about 5:45 p.m., according to an Oklahoma Highway Patrol accident report.

Tay was ejected about 30 feet off his bike when his Schwinn 10 speed left the road to the right, hit a tree and caught fire, troopers reported. He was taken to Tulsa's St. Francis Hospital, where he was pronounced dead about 8:45 p.m.  Dr's said it was a case unlike any other they had seen.  The cause of death was blunt force trauma, but found the deceased to be missing most of his brain.  Dr's went on to stress the importance of wearing a helmet while cycling even though your chances of survival are slim if you are struck by a moving vehicle.


geeeeez, I must have slept good last night. I had this really weird dream about some guy in a santa suit riding a bike and dying? It couldn't be true.  People don't die on bicycles, only in motor vehicle accidents.  It had to have been a dream.
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: 1099paralegal on June 07, 2008, 10:29:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982


A Tulsa man died Thursday night, hours after he crashed his bike in Okmulgee County.

Paul Tay of Tulsa, 32, lost control of his bicycle on a gravel road near Henryetta about 5:45 p.m., according to an Oklahoma Highway Patrol accident report.



At least no one else got hurt. (//%22http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5007263&affil=wjla%22)

quote:

Tay was ejected about 30 feet off his bike when his Schwinn 10 speed left the road to the right, hit a tree and caught fire, troopers reported.



Obviously, troopers AREN'T physicists.  To be ejected 30 feet after slipping on gravel, in the middle of the night, would require a moving speed approximately 35 mph.

Also, bicyclists are NOT 'ejected,' after slipping on gravel.  They skid, leave a short bloody trail on the road, and gain 'strawberries' on the hip.  

A couple of aspirins usually numbs the temporary pain.  Douse wound with hydrogen peroxide, PROFUSELY.  Sleep naked uncomfortably for a couple of nights.  Problem SOLVED.

Though slipping on gravel in the middle of the night, in the sticks, might be an issue, bicyclists usually leave the scene on their own, with bruised egos.

Within the context of vehicular incidents, the term "ejection" suggests a high-speed moving body violently leaving another high-speed moving body, after sudden deceleration or impact.

quote:


He was taken to Tulsa's St. Francis Hospital, where he was pronounced dead about 8:45 p.m.  Dr's said it was a case unlike any other they had seen.  The cause of death was blunt force trauma, but found the deceased to be missing most of his brain.  Dr's went on to stress the importance of wearing a helmet while cycling even though your chances of survival are slim if you are struck by a moving vehicle.




Wasn't this a one-vehicle incident?  At least get your story STRAIGHT.  Give it another shot at creative writing.  This time, use a LESS auto-centric paradigm.  Bicycles do NOT catch on fire after collisions with tree.
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: sauerkraut on June 07, 2008, 11:10:16 AM
I'd say your better off drinking. Leave driving to the rich folks who can afford it. Driving will soon be a rich-folk only thing. I don't drink so I guess I'll have to stick to driving. Ouch![xx(]
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: 1099paralegal on June 07, 2008, 11:21:58 AM
With the new BOK Arena opening, which seats 18,000, there is growing concern over parking in Downtown Tulsa. Arena events could mean thousands of additional vehicles searching for spaces.

But Jim Norton of Downtown Tulsa Unlimited says any shortage of parking downtown is just a nasty rumor.  "With $6 gas, only rich white guys like me will be able to afford cars to park.  But, bicycle parking should be plentiful.  Let 'em bike!" Norton quips.
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: PonderInc on June 07, 2008, 11:49:58 AM
Approximately 50% of the area within the IDL is surface parking.  There is no concern for lack of parking.  There is concern for lack of buildings and loss of history and architecture!
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: TUalum0982 on June 07, 2008, 12:02:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 1099paralegal

quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982


A Tulsa man died Thursday night, hours after he crashed his bike in Okmulgee County.

Paul Tay of Tulsa, 32, lost control of his bicycle on a gravel road near Henryetta about 5:45 p.m., according to an Oklahoma Highway Patrol accident report.



At least no one else got hurt. (//%22http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5007263&affil=wjla%22)

quote:

Tay was ejected about 30 feet off his bike when his Schwinn 10 speed left the road to the right, hit a tree and caught fire, troopers reported.



Obviously, troopers AREN'T physicists.  To be ejected 30 feet after slipping on gravel, in the middle of the night, would require a moving speed approximately 35 mph.

Also, bicyclists are NOT 'ejected,' after slipping on gravel.  They skid, leave a short bloody trail on the road, and gain 'strawberries' on the hip.  

A couple of aspirins usually numbs the temporary pain.  Douse wound with hydrogen peroxide, PROFUSELY.  Sleep naked uncomfortably for a couple of nights.  Problem SOLVED.

Though slipping on gravel in the middle of the night, in the sticks, might be an issue, bicyclists usually leave the scene on their own, with bruised egos.

Within the context of vehicular incidents, the term "ejection" suggests a high-speed moving body violently leaving another high-speed moving body, after sudden deceleration or impact.

quote:


He was taken to Tulsa's St. Francis Hospital, where he was pronounced dead about 8:45 p.m.  Dr's said it was a case unlike any other they had seen.  The cause of death was blunt force trauma, but found the deceased to be missing most of his brain.  Dr's went on to stress the importance of wearing a helmet while cycling even though your chances of survival are slim if you are struck by a moving vehicle.




Wasn't this a one-vehicle incident?  At least get your story STRAIGHT.  Give it another shot at creative writing.  This time, use a LESS auto-centric paradigm.  Bicycles do NOT catch on fire after collisions with tree.



you obviously didn't get the sarcasm.  We all know the bicycle isn't going to catch fire, and be ejected 30 feet.  wow, you are dense.  Loosen up a bit.
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: sauerkraut on June 07, 2008, 03:04:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by 1099paralegal

quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982


A Tulsa man died Thursday night, hours after he crashed his bike in Okmulgee County.

Paul Tay of Tulsa, 32, lost control of his bicycle on a gravel road near Henryetta about 5:45 p.m., according to an Oklahoma Highway Patrol accident report.



At least no one else got hurt. (//%22http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5007263&affil=wjla%22)

quote:

Tay was ejected about 30 feet off his bike when his Schwinn 10 speed left the road to the right, hit a tree and caught fire, troopers reported.



Obviously, troopers AREN'T physicists.  To be ejected 30 feet after slipping on gravel, in the middle of the night, would require a moving speed approximately 35 mph.

Also, bicyclists are NOT 'ejected,' after slipping on gravel.  They skid, leave a short bloody trail on the road, and gain 'strawberries' on the hip.  

A couple of aspirins usually numbs the temporary pain.  Douse wound with hydrogen peroxide, PROFUSELY.  Sleep naked uncomfortably for a couple of nights.  Problem SOLVED.

Though slipping on gravel in the middle of the night, in the sticks, might be an issue, bicyclists usually leave the scene on their own, with bruised egos.

Within the context of vehicular incidents, the term "ejection" suggests a high-speed moving body violently leaving another high-speed moving body, after sudden deceleration or impact.

quote:


He was taken to Tulsa's St. Francis Hospital, where he was pronounced dead about 8:45 p.m.  Dr's said it was a case unlike any other they had seen.  The cause of death was blunt force trauma, but found the deceased to be missing most of his brain.  Dr's went on to stress the importance of wearing a helmet while cycling even though your chances of survival are slim if you are struck by a moving vehicle.




Wasn't this a one-vehicle incident?  At least get your story STRAIGHT.  Give it another shot at creative writing.  This time, use a LESS auto-centric paradigm.  Bicycles do NOT catch on fire after collisions with tree.



you obviously didn't get the sarcasm.  We all know the bicycle isn't going to catch fire, and be ejected 30 feet.  wow, you are dense.  Loosen up a bit.

Anything can happen. If a bike crashs into something flameable it can go up in a ball of flames.[;)]
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: mrB on June 07, 2008, 05:27:20 PM


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Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: Red Arrow on June 07, 2008, 11:26:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sauerkraut

I'd say your better off drinking. Leave driving to the rich folks who can afford it. Driving will soon be a rich-folk only thing. I don't drink so I guess I'll have to stick to driving. Ouch![xx(]



Might be time to take up drinking.[:)]
Leave the driving to someone else.
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: Wilbur on June 08, 2008, 08:01:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I have been watching the sales on beer and if you buy either kegs of Lone Star for $80 or 12 packs of Keystone Light for $5.99...you can get cheap beer for between $5 and $5.25 a gallon.

Now I am seeing 90% gasoline with 10% ethanol advertised all over town for $3.79.

If this keeps up, gasoline will be more expensive than beer. What do I do...drink or drive?


I'm more concerned with your tastes in beer.
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: RecycleMichael on June 08, 2008, 08:24:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Wilbur

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I have been watching the sales on beer and if you buy either kegs of Lone Star for $80 or 12 packs of Keystone Light for $5.99...you can get cheap beer for between $5 and $5.25 a gallon.

Now I am seeing 90% gasoline with 10% ethanol advertised all over town for $3.79.

If this keeps up, gasoline will be more expensive than beer. What do I do...drink or drive?


I'm more concerned with your tastes in beer.



It is not for me. My in-laws are planning to come visit during the summer. I am just trying to be a good host. I am also trying to find Cheetos by the case and SpagettiO's by the barrel.
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: Red Arrow on June 08, 2008, 11:10:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by Wilbur

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I have been watching the sales on beer and if you buy either kegs of Lone Star for $80 or 12 packs of Keystone Light for $5.99...you can get cheap beer for between $5 and $5.25 a gallon.

Now I am seeing 90% gasoline with 10% ethanol advertised all over town for $3.79.

If this keeps up, gasoline will be more expensive than beer. What do I do...drink or drive?


I'm more concerned with your tastes in beer.



It is not for me. My in-laws are planning to come visit during the summer. I am just trying to be a good host. I am also trying to find Cheetos by the case and SpagettiO's by the barrel.



I have to agree with Wilbur.  I wouldn't even serve those beers to people I didn't like.
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: RecycleMichael on June 08, 2008, 12:22:54 PM
I am just trying to "afford" their visit.

My ice chest right now has Boddington, Corona, Michelob Select, Michelob Ultra, Flying Dog, Leinenkugal, and Red Stripe.

I hide them in the corner of the garage.

For the wife's family visit, I have to be more frugal. When her sister is on vacation, she can drink more beer than a water buffalo.
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: rwarn17588 on June 08, 2008, 12:30:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I am just trying to "afford" their visit.

My ice chest right now has Boddington, Corona, Michelob Select, Michelob Ultra, Flying Dog, Leinenkugal, and Red Stripe.




No Schlitz? No "kiss of the hops"?

My liquor store had a $3.99-a-six sale on Bitburger the other day. Yay!
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: MH2010 on June 08, 2008, 02:22:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I am just trying to "afford" their visit.

My ice chest right now has Boddington, Corona, Michelob Select, Michelob Ultra, Flying Dog, Leinenkugal, and Red Stripe.




No Schlitz? No "kiss of the hops"?

My liquor store had a $3.99-a-six sale on Bitburger the other day. Yay!



Where?  I love Bitburger!
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: Rico on June 08, 2008, 04:29:23 PM
If beer prices fall into the pockets of those outside of the USA.....?


http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D914N5OO0.htm


Web site aims to block Anheuser-Busch takeover



A new Web site is trying to block the rumored takeover of Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc. by Belgium-based brewer InBev SA, playing on patriotic fervor to stop an iconic American firm from slipping into foreign hands.

The Web site, SaveBudweiser.com, encourages visitors to contact elected officials and Anheuser-Busch shareholders to discourage the deal. It features an online petition "To Save Our Beer," and claims to have more than 18,000 signatures.

"We don't want another American icon turned over to a foreign company; we want the motto to remain, "The Great American Lager," the petition says.

It is unclear who is behind the Web site, which says it is not affiliated with Anheuser-Busch. The site is registered and hosted by a company in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia. The identity of the Web site administrators is not listed, and the administrators did not return an e-mail seeking comment.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported earlier this week the Web Site was launched by a couple in Florida who live near a member of the Busch family.

The Web site reflects discontent that has flourished since European media outlets published reports late last month that InBev might offer up to $48 billion for Anheuser-Busch. Concern has been particularly strong here in Anheuser-Busch's hometown, where the company employs 6,000 people and gives to a wide variety of local charities.

Both Anheuser-Busch and InBev have declined comment on any potential deal.

Analysts say it could be difficult for Anheuser-Busch executives to deny an offer if InBev makes it. InBev's bid equals about $65 per share for Anheuser-Busch's stock, a steep premium over Friday morning's share price of $57.81.

Still, the deal might become a political issue during an election year when voters are anxious about the economy and wary of overseas investment. That's clearly a sentiment being stoked by the site.

"Anheuser-Busch is a huge supporter of our military and their families both here and abroad and is ranked in the 'Top 50 Military-Friendly Employers,'" the site says. "Recently in the news, talks of a hostile take over of the company have been prevalent. Lets band together as one voice and try to save more than just our beer."
[}:)]
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: rwarn17588 on June 08, 2008, 06:14:02 PM
I'm sort of ambivalent about the Anheuser-Busch takeover.

AB's ruthlessness has caused the demise of many stalwart U.S. brands over the decades.

And, frankly, Europeans often make better beer than we do. (Quality-obsessive microbrewers like Marshall here in town don't count my general statement, BTW.)

But a Belgian concern taking over wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing to AB's overall product.

To answer MH2010's question: I forget the name of the liquor store, but it's the one on Southwest Boulevard near Ollie's Station. You'd better move fast, though.

The owner there about once a week buys small-quantity "sale" items of a case or two. Some weeks it means cheap stuff like Schlitz or Lost Lake. But others it means good beer like Bitburger or Shiner Blonde -- all at cut-rate prices of $3 to $4 a six-pack.
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 09, 2008, 08:40:44 AM
Couldn't care less.  If American company's are under performing or the economics are such that it makes sense for a foreign company to buy it out, fine.  Why not sell a $40B company for $48B?  

In my book, that's a net gain of $8 Billion for the majority American shareholders.  

And, of course, that's ignoring the fact that the US did the same thing in the 1980's and 90's when our currency was strong - run in and buy companies all over the world.  Most of which we over paid for and had to sell off not too long after.  Welcome to capitalism, "legacies" and "national pride" are not that relevant, it's just business.
Title: Drink...or Drive?
Post by: Rico on June 09, 2008, 05:05:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Couldn't care less.  If American company's are under performing or the economics are such that it makes sense for a foreign company to buy it out, fine.  Why not sell a $40B company for $48B?  

In my book, that's a net gain of $8 Billion for the majority American shareholders.  

And, of course, that's ignoring the fact that the US did the same thing in the 1980's and 90's when our currency was strong - run in and buy companies all over the world.  Most of which we over paid for and had to sell off not too long after.  Welcome to capitalism, "legacies" and "national pride" are not that relevant, it's just business.



Don't know how this thread turned into a statement that "Bud" shouldn't be bought out,,


The point was... when another company located in another country controls the price of beer.... the price just might go up..

Ya think..?

Who the owners of Budweiser are means very little to me as well.. but it just might matter to the employees of the company.

Ya think..?