I just got an email from a friend to inform me that NINE lofts just got their approval for LEED Platinum status (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design as registered by the US Green Building Council).
This means that Tulsa has one of only 29 (now) LEED Platinum rated homes in the U.S. Of course, this is the highest rated home in Oklahoma.
Very progressive statement for the City.
Very cool stuff in those homes...and love the grass roof.
He said they will have an open house on Saturday and Sunday from 1p - 4p.
Even if you're not able to afford $469K I think it's worth a look. There are some very cool things in there that could be incorporated into one's home. And the only grass roof in Oklahoma is very intersting to see!
www.tulsagreenlofts.com
Gorgeous. I love these.
Article about project at this thread: GREEN Condos http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10295
Every week, when I open the Tulsa World, I see the "World of Homes" insert. Week after week, they put what appears to be the same house on the cover: standard-issue, cookie-cutter, garage-in-front, fake-cottage-style, beige, suburban, ho-hum crapola.
This past weekend, I did a double-take. Something cool and interesting was on the cover for a change. It was this project! Looks fantastic! And great job on the LEED certification! Hurray for a unique contribution to the Tulsa home market!
Petrouskie is selling a lot on 17th and Rockford with a LEED home design to go with it if you wish to pay for it. I believe the 1920's craftsman home that used to stand there was hit by a large tree limb during the ice storm and was un-recoverable. At least I hope that was the case... infilling at Swan Lake would infuriate me.
A huge round of Applause needs to go to Shelby Navarro and Company for making this happen.
IMHO Tulsa is extremely lucky to have this team within our city limits.
Too bad the "Pearl District Form Based Codes" trial was or has not been funded by the Mayor's budget.... They could do wonders over that way.
They even own property in the area.
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Originally posted by Rico
Too bad the "Pearl District Form Based Codes" trial was or has not been funded by the Mayor's budget.... They could do wonders over that way.
They even own property in the area.
Why are you taking an unrelated cheap shot at the Mayor?
These guys just built an awesome project north of Cherry Street without "form-based codes".
Mike,
I know what was done... I also know, as do the principals, in the LEED project.... what could be done...
There was no cheap shot intended. Simply a statement regarding development in Tulsa and the hurdles that are placed in the way.
Please explain how different zoning codes would have made this project easier.
Do you think this Mayor has made this kind of development easier or harder? Please give examples.
Mike...
The zoning of the property had to be changed for the project to be built....
This project is in the history books.. The hurdle comes into play in the projects that are yet to be built.... or may never be built.
Why......? it is illegal to build them.
Yes, the property was a single family home and is now a multi-family condo. That has always required a zoning change. They get approved all the time. They have under this Mayor and all the previous Mayors.
Her appointees all voted for this project to go forward.
Again, what has happened or not happened for you to take a cheap shot at the Mayor?
I am for form-based codes, but don't understand why you wanted to bring them up in an unrelated thread about a positive new building in Tulsa.
That area is already zoned for multifamily. There are several existing apartment buildings in that neighborhood.
I'm glad to know that a usuable house was not torn down to build the lofts. I am curious how LEED certification takes into account destroying perfectly good houses to build something new. Is the termendous amount of waste/expended energy subtracted from whatever is produced? According to the speaker at the "taming the tear down" forum, it can takes many, many decades to recoup any energy savings from an energy effecient house. The greenest house is the one already built.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
That area is already zoned for multifamily. There are several existing apartment buildings in that neighborhood.
I'm glad to know that a usuable house was not torn down to build the lofts. I am curious how LEED certification takes into account destroying perfectly good houses to build something new. Is the termendous amount of waste/expended energy subtracted from whatever is produced? According to the speaker at the "taming the tear down" forum, it can takes many, many decades to recoup any energy savings from an energy effecient house. The greenest house is the one already built.
Most of the Loft projects in that area involved moving the existing home. It was quite a bargain for people looking for a bungalow. Some of the developers even pay for the transport fee (after all, it's cheaper than demolition).
If anyone is looking for a small bungalow style home for an acreage somewhere, talk to some of the loft developers. I think Mask development still has a very cute little blue one for sale.
NINE didn't tear their house down they gave it away to someone who moved it to N. Tulsa County for reuse. I agree that a green house is one that already exists. But in an urban area if you take one dwelling unit and replace it without demolishing it with up to 4 that are built in an environmentally sensitive manner. I'd say you got greener in the long run.
LEED certification is based on a credit system. You get points for recycling materials or diverting materials from the landfill. You don't get points deducted for sending an old house to the landfill you just don't get any consideration for points for reusing materials.
I think I'm reading it right: http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=1095
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Originally posted by OurTulsa
NINE didn't tear their house down they gave it away to someone who moved it to N. Tulsa County for reuse. I agree that a green house is one that already exists. But in an urban area if you take one dwelling unit and replace it without demolishing it with up to 4 that are built in an environmentally sensitive manner. I'd say you got greener in the long run.
I agree! Now the only hurdle is selling it. They probably need to advertise nationally.
Just found out last night at the HBA meeting that they have reduced the price by $100,000 in an effort to sell. They are also listing the property on Craig's list.
In reaction to this some of the other loft developers are being forced to reduce their prices too. That's unfortunate for the developers.
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Originally posted by Gaspar
Just found out last night at the HBA meeting that they have reduced the price by $100,000 in an effort to sell. They are also listing the property on Craig's list.
In reaction to this some of the other loft developers are being forced to reduce their prices too. That's unfortunate for the developers.
Unfortunate for developers, good for buyers. I wonder what kind of profit margins they were looking at and what they're looking at now? I'm not familiar with residential construction in this area.