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Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: weatherwise on May 20, 2008, 03:29:34 PM
Since being with Fox23 since its inception of news, Jon Slater is no longer at Fox23.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: AngieB on May 20, 2008, 03:42:48 PM
Is that it? You're not going to elaborate?

Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Townsend on May 20, 2008, 03:47:02 PM
He chose not to return from suspension.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: restored2x on May 20, 2008, 04:09:31 PM
Suspension from what? I must have missed something. Did he break into an American Idol episode or something?
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: weatherwise on May 20, 2008, 04:25:01 PM
He was suspended for a week for covering up some of Idol.  He wasn't called back in for the picher tornado, so he got mad and quit.  Details are still sketchy, but eventually the truth will come to light.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Conan71 on May 20, 2008, 04:31:59 PM
He will land on his feet.  This suspension- was he broadcasting storm warnings over idol?  I think they need to revisit their role in public safety if that's the case.  If it was simply another stormgasm over a popcorn thunderstorm, I could understand.  Pre-empting idol for a tornado warning would be quite another thing.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: CoffeeBean on May 20, 2008, 04:33:09 PM
If only 2, 6 and 8 would follow suit.  Someone needs to reign in the weather cartel.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Gaspar on May 20, 2008, 04:35:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by weatherwise

He was suspended for a week for covering up some of Idol.  He wasn't called back in for the picher tornado, so he got mad and quit.  Details are still sketchy, but eventually the truth will come to light.



That's the last time I will watch Fox23!  I don't care who's on TV if people's lives are threatened by weather or any other natural disaster let us know about it!

Suspended for interrupting Simon, Paula, and Randy is not a sin!
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Ibanez on May 20, 2008, 05:11:48 PM
We need details on this. If he was suspended for breaking in for a warning and not just the OMG OMG OMG it is raining somewhere in Oklahoma break ins that all the stations do then Fox23 can kiss my donkey.

Like everyone else I get sick of the break ins for no reason, but if he broke in for a valid reason then I have no problem with it and their suspension of him is ridiculous.

I don't think much of their news anyway, but I will be damn sure never to watch it again if he was suspended for trying to do his job and to protect the public.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: sgrizzle on May 20, 2008, 05:28:01 PM
That makes the second weather person from fox23 fired for that reason.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Breadburner on May 20, 2008, 06:13:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CoffeeBean

If only 2, 6 and 8 would follow suit.  Someone needs to reign in the weather cartel.



That idiot Travis Meyer needs to be brought down a notch or 3....I think Threllkeld is the best of the bunch....
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 20, 2008, 06:19:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

That makes the second weather person from fox23 fired for that reason.



So what they are saying here is that he interrupted American Idol to give an important weather advisory?
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Breadburner on May 20, 2008, 06:58:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by weatherwise

Since being with Fox23 since its inception of news, Jon Slater is no longer at Fox23.



Thank You Jon....
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: inteller on May 20, 2008, 09:47:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

That makes the second weather person from fox23 fired for that reason.



So what they are saying here is that he interrupted American Idol to give an important weather advisory?



seeing as how that is the only good show on Fox, I can see why they canned him....he cut deeply into their ratings.

look at it like this, if someone would have died because he didn't cut in and warn them, that would be ok because at least they got to see the next Carrie Underpants sing before they died?
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 20, 2008, 09:50:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

That makes the second weather person from fox23 fired for that reason.



So what they are saying here is that he interrupted American Idol to give an important weather advisory?



seeing as how that is the only good show on Fox, I can see why they canned him....he cut deeply into their ratings.

look at it like this, if someone would have died because he didn't cut in and warn them, that would be ok because at least they got to see the next Carrie Underpants sing before they died?



Well, by that rationale: it's terrible that there's a tornado coming through with the potential of destroying life and property, but heaven forbid that they should interrupt American Idol to warn us!
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: midtownnewbie on May 20, 2008, 10:08:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

That makes the second weather person from fox23 fired for that reason.



Who was the first one?
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Breadburner on May 20, 2008, 10:17:58 PM
Does everyone watch TV.....I thought we had sirenes for Tornado's....
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Curmudgeon on May 20, 2008, 11:07:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by midtownnewbie

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

That makes the second weather person from fox23 fired for that reason.



Who was the first one?



I think it was George Flickinger.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: spoonbill on May 21, 2008, 05:48:45 AM
What if they just put a little box in the bottom of the screen with a little movie of a tornado ripping up houses and tossing cows?  

No interruption, and we could just quickly switch to another channel to find out how much time we have to live.  Then we could get back to jamming up the phone lines voting for David Cook!
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: sgrizzle on May 21, 2008, 07:32:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Curmudgeon

quote:
Originally posted by midtownnewbie

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

That makes the second weather person from fox23 fired for that reason.



Who was the first one?



I think it was George Flickinger.



Yup, he broke in on an NFL game for a storm that I believe technically was not in the required viewing area which violated some NFL broadcast rule and FOX23 got in trouble.

Maybe FOX (corporate) has some real hard-___ rules.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: CoffeeBean on May 21, 2008, 09:01:19 AM
Life threatening weather is bad, no debate here.  But as mentioned above - we have any number of alternative warning mechanisms to get the word out.  

First, we have sirens.  And the civil defense system is tested every Wednesday to ensure that its up and working.  God forbid you're not watching television when the tornado strikes.

Second, the television can provide adequate warning without a full-stop interruption in programming.  Somewhere along the way, scrolls and colored county warnings fell out of favor with the weather cartel.  Why?  If a study was published suggesting those warnings were ineffective, I never saw it.  

If you ask me, the downfall of simple, to the point warnings occurred with the advent of multimedia storm chasing.  Why just warn you when we can show you the tornado bearing down on your home (nevermind that you're supposed to be in your inner sanctum, and away from outside windows near the television).  

Let's examine another medium - radio.  When was the last time an FM radio station cut from programming to broadcast the National Weather Service?  How often does this happen?  Rarely, from what I can tell.  Why is that?  

The interruptions are excessive.  They cut into the very life blood of these stations (advertising) and ruin the programming that brings in viewers.  And for what?  So the weather cartel can show us streaming video of . . . rain?  

Warn and move on.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: citizen72 on May 21, 2008, 10:42:27 AM
We have a friend that used to work for Channel 2. He tells us when a weather event was pending the weather personnel would go around the station in a heightened state of excitement.

Bring on the specter of a tornado and their eyes expand to silver dollar size and they at times would glad hand each other.

The question then is just how can a tornado, which is a killer, bring on that kind of reckless excitement to a so called professional.

For what is is worth, My wife and I also agree the program interruptions are excessive.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Radar on May 21, 2008, 10:46:44 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Breadburner

quote:
Originally posted by CoffeeBean

If only 2, 6 and 8 would follow suit.  Someone needs to reign in the weather cartel.



That idiot Travis Meyer needs to be brought down a notch or 3....I think Threllkeld is the best of the bunch....



You are so right. Travis Meyer's makes me crazy. His ego is bigger than my husband's...
wait, never mind.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: TUalum0982 on May 21, 2008, 11:36:24 AM
quote:
Originally posted by citizen72

We have a friend that used to work for Channel 2. He tells us when a weather event was pending the weather personnel would go around the station in a heightened state of excitement.

Bring on the specter of a tornado and their eyes expand to silver dollar size and they at times would glad hand each other.

The question then is just how can a tornado, which is a killer, bring on that kind of reckless excitement to a so called professional.

For what is is worth, My wife and I also agree the program interruptions are excessive.



I would assume it's because these types of events dont happent everyday and since meteorology is a science, and most weathermen (women) are somewhat of the nerd/dork type, they enjoy this kind of thing from a weather or science standpoint.  Not from a "wow, its going to kill people and destroy their lives" type of thrill.  

I would associate it with kids and snowstorms.  You know the combo of cold weather, bad roads, and slippery driveways/porches is probably going to hurt and probably kill some people either by being stranded in their car, or getting into a traffic accident.  They like the snowstorm because it doesn't happen often and its exciting.  Not because its going to possibly kill and injure people.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: bluelake on May 21, 2008, 11:46:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by citizen72

We have a friend that used to work for Channel 2. He tells us when a weather event was pending the weather personnel would go around the station in a heightened state of excitement.




I always wondered why they're only shown from above the waist when they're having their stormgasms.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: breitee on May 21, 2008, 12:05:26 PM
They are ALL a bunch of no talent egotistical morons that have no life and get off on disrupting the lives of others.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: EricP on May 21, 2008, 01:42:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by breitee

They are ALL a bunch of no talent egotistical morons that have no life and get off on disrupting the lives of others.



Oh yes.. their goal is clearly to DISRUPT. [xx(]
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: ARGUS on May 21, 2008, 02:07:59 PM
frank mitchell next................pleeeease!
then carol lambert.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Conan71 on May 21, 2008, 02:18:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

frank mitchell next................pleeeease!
then carol lambert.



Frank Mitchell is like a Dana Carvey character, playing weather man.

"There's a tornado coming!  Isn't that special!"
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: waterboy on May 21, 2008, 02:55:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CoffeeBean

Life threatening weather is bad, no debate here.  But as mentioned above - we have any number of alternative warning mechanisms to get the word out.  

First, we have sirens.  And the civil defense system is tested every Wednesday to ensure that its up and working.  God forbid you're not watching television when the tornado strikes.

Second, the television can provide adequate warning without a full-stop interruption in programming.  Somewhere along the way, scrolls and colored county warnings fell out of favor with the weather cartel.  Why?  If a study was published suggesting those warnings were ineffective, I never saw it.  

If you ask me, the downfall of simple, to the point warnings occurred with the advent of multimedia storm chasing.  Why just warn you when we can show you the tornado bearing down on your home (nevermind that you're supposed to be in your inner sanctum, and away from outside windows near the television).  

Let's examine another medium - radio.  When was the last time an FM radio station cut from programming to broadcast the National Weather Service?  How often does this happen?  Rarely, from what I can tell.  Why is that?  

The interruptions are excessive.  They cut into the very life blood of these stations (advertising) and ruin the programming that brings in viewers.  And for what?  So the weather cartel can show us streaming video of . . . rain?  

Warn and move on.



That's my view perfectly stated. If you compared the before "stormgasm" style reporting to post "stormgasm" I would bet you find no difference in fatalities/injuries. So it is a waste of resources at best. And the result is people getting way too nervous at the sight of a few rain clouds on the horizon. They lock themselves in and start to believe that a storm in the SE part of the state is a threat to them. I guess legally there are areas they have to break in for but I use common senses to determine the real threat. We use to say in Norman, "When Gary Chew takes off his jacket and rolls up his sleeves...take cover!"
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: breitee on May 21, 2008, 04:09:33 PM
All of these guys "cry wolf" far too many times so that when something actually does happen, nobody listens.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: OkieDiva on May 21, 2008, 04:36:07 PM
Only job in America where you can be wrong more than half the time and still make six figures....

Heard something, wish I knew more, about criteria for tornado warning changing - so that now it's easier for a warning to be triggered. Something about "conditions being ripe" could trigger a warning, versus having to actually see a hook-echo on radar or funnel in the field. If anyone has more info, please advise.

In our household, the result of all the duck-and-cover hysteria has been to tune it out... I don't believe them anymore, and we don't head first for shelter when we hear a siren. I think all of the warnings and stormgasm tactics will have the exact opposite effect than they should - and end up killing someone (perhaps me!) who's been desensitized to it all.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Breadburner on May 21, 2008, 04:39:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by OkieDiva

Only job in America where you can be wrong more than half the time and still make six figures....

Heard something, wish I knew more, about criteria for tornado warning changing - so that now it's easier for a warning to be triggered. Something about "conditions being ripe" could trigger a warning, versus having to actually see a hook-echo on radar or funnel in the field. If anyone has more info, please advise.

In our household, the result of all the duck-and-cover hysteria has been to tune it out... I don't believe them anymore, and we don't head first for shelter when we hear a siren. I think all of the warnings and stormgasm tactics will have the exact opposite effect than they should - and end up killing someone (perhaps me!) who's been desensitized to it all.



Excelent.....Could not have said it better...
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: charky on May 21, 2008, 05:19:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by citizen72

We have a friend that used to work for Channel 2. He tells us when a weather event was pending the weather personnel would go around the station in a heightened state of excitement.

Bring on the specter of a tornado and their eyes expand to silver dollar size and they at times would glad hand each other.

The question then is just how can a tornado, which is a killer, bring on that kind of reckless excitement to a so called professional.

For what is is worth, My wife and I also agree the program interruptions are excessive.



I would assume it's because these types of events dont happent everyday and since meteorology is a science, and most weathermen (women) are somewhat of the nerd/dork type, they enjoy this kind of thing from a weather or science standpoint.  Not from a "wow, its going to kill people and destroy their lives" type of thrill.  

I would associate it with kids and snowstorms.  You know the combo of cold weather, bad roads, and slippery driveways/porches is probably going to hurt and probably kill some people either by being stranded in their car, or getting into a traffic accident.  They like the snowstorm because it doesn't happen often and its exciting.  Not because its going to possibly kill and injure people.



Hey...who are you calling a nerd/dork? [:)] I'm a meteorologist at the Tulsa NWS...closing in on 14 years here and 20 years overall. There's some  truth to the above...often what we consider "good" weather is actually "bad" weather to the public.

I wouldn't say our office gets "excited" or "thrilled" when the severe weather gets cranking. However...our situational awareness shoots through the roof. It's a feast or famine job...and we really earn our money during these events where your normal 8 hour shift turns into a 14-16 hour shift.

For what it's worth...and of course I'm biased...Tulsa is easily one of the best/forward thinking NWS offices in the country. There is some serious talent here...and it's a pleasure to come to work.

And to get back to the original posting...I'm sorry to see Jon go. Good guy. He'll be missed.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 21, 2008, 10:40:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by charky

quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by citizen72

We have a friend that used to work for Channel 2. He tells us when a weather event was pending the weather personnel would go around the station in a heightened state of excitement.

Bring on the specter of a tornado and their eyes expand to silver dollar size and they at times would glad hand each other.

The question then is just how can a tornado, which is a killer, bring on that kind of reckless excitement to a so called professional.

For what is is worth, My wife and I also agree the program interruptions are excessive.



I would assume it's because these types of events dont happent everyday and since meteorology is a science, and most weathermen (women) are somewhat of the nerd/dork type, they enjoy this kind of thing from a weather or science standpoint.  Not from a "wow, its going to kill people and destroy their lives" type of thrill.  

I would associate it with kids and snowstorms.  You know the combo of cold weather, bad roads, and slippery driveways/porches is probably going to hurt and probably kill some people either by being stranded in their car, or getting into a traffic accident.  They like the snowstorm because it doesn't happen often and its exciting.  Not because its going to possibly kill and injure people.



Hey...who are you calling a nerd/dork? [:)] I'm a meteorologist at the Tulsa NWS...closing in on 14 years here and 20 years overall. There's some  truth to the above...often what we consider "good" weather is actually "bad" weather to the public.

I wouldn't say our office gets "excited" or "thrilled" when the severe weather gets cranking. However...our situational awareness shoots through the roof. It's a feast or famine job...and we really earn our money during these events where your normal 8 hour shift turns into a 14-16 hour shift.

For what it's worth...and of course I'm biased...Tulsa is easily one of the best/forward thinking NWS offices in the country. There is some serious talent here...and it's a pleasure to come to work.

And to get back to the original posting...I'm sorry to see Jon go. Good guy. He'll be missed.



He did seem kind of likable, from what I could see. Who knows? By now, he may have found an even better gig!
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: citizen72 on May 21, 2008, 11:02:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by charky

quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by citizen72

We have a friend that used to work for Channel 2. He tells us when a weather event was pending the weather personnel would go around the station in a heightened state of excitement.

Bring on the specter of a tornado and their eyes expand to silver dollar size and they at times would glad hand each other.

The question then is just how can a tornado, which is a killer, bring on that kind of reckless excitement to a so called professional.

For what is is worth, My wife and I also agree the program interruptions are excessive.



I would assume it's because these types of events dont happent everyday and since meteorology is a science, and most weathermen (women) are somewhat of the nerd/dork type, they enjoy this kind of thing from a weather or science standpoint.  Not from a "wow, its going to kill people and destroy their lives" type of thrill.  

I would associate it with kids and snowstorms.  You know the combo of cold weather, bad roads, and slippery driveways/porches is probably going to hurt and probably kill some people either by being stranded in their car, or getting into a traffic accident.  They like the snowstorm because it doesn't happen often and its exciting.  Not because its going to possibly kill and injure people.



Hey...who are you calling a nerd/dork? [:)] I'm a meteorologist at the Tulsa NWS...closing in on 14 years here and 20 years overall. There's some  truth to the above...often what we consider "good" weather is actually "bad" weather to the public.

I wouldn't say our office gets "excited" or "thrilled" when the severe weather gets cranking. However...our situational awareness shoots through the roof. It's a feast or famine job...and we really earn our money during these events where your normal 8 hour shift turns into a 14-16 hour shift.

For what it's worth...and of course I'm biased...Tulsa is easily one of the best/forward thinking NWS offices in the country. There is some serious talent here...and it's a pleasure to come to work.

And to get back to the original posting...I'm sorry to see Jon go. Good guy. He'll be missed.



I have a very good doctor that could treat you if you want. Getting excited over something so serious and deadly is sick.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: charky on May 21, 2008, 11:48:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by citizen72
I have a very good doctor that could treat you if you want. Getting excited over something so serious and deadly is sick.



Well let's not overreact now...ok?

As TUalum said...it's not like we're foaming at the mouth wanting death and destruction. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

But I'd be lying if I didn't say we feed off some adrenalin during severe weather events. Your brain is aching while assimilating a ridiculous amount of radar data. The excitement or fascination for me (and I would say for our entire staff) comes purely from a meteorological standpoint.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Hoss on May 22, 2008, 12:06:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by citizen72

quote:
Originally posted by charky

quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by citizen72

We have a friend that used to work for Channel 2. He tells us when a weather event was pending the weather personnel would go around the station in a heightened state of excitement.

Bring on the specter of a tornado and their eyes expand to silver dollar size and they at times would glad hand each other.

The question then is just how can a tornado, which is a killer, bring on that kind of reckless excitement to a so called professional.

For what is is worth, My wife and I also agree the program interruptions are excessive.



I would assume it's because these types of events dont happent everyday and since meteorology is a science, and most weathermen (women) are somewhat of the nerd/dork type, they enjoy this kind of thing from a weather or science standpoint.  Not from a "wow, its going to kill people and destroy their lives" type of thrill.  

I would associate it with kids and snowstorms.  You know the combo of cold weather, bad roads, and slippery driveways/porches is probably going to hurt and probably kill some people either by being stranded in their car, or getting into a traffic accident.  They like the snowstorm because it doesn't happen often and its exciting.  Not because its going to possibly kill and injure people.



Hey...who are you calling a nerd/dork? [:)] I'm a meteorologist at the Tulsa NWS...closing in on 14 years here and 20 years overall. There's some  truth to the above...often what we consider "good" weather is actually "bad" weather to the public.

I wouldn't say our office gets "excited" or "thrilled" when the severe weather gets cranking. However...our situational awareness shoots through the roof. It's a feast or famine job...and we really earn our money during these events where your normal 8 hour shift turns into a 14-16 hour shift.

For what it's worth...and of course I'm biased...Tulsa is easily one of the best/forward thinking NWS offices in the country. There is some serious talent here...and it's a pleasure to come to work.

And to get back to the original posting...I'm sorry to see Jon go. Good guy. He'll be missed.



I have a very good doctor that could treat you if you want. Getting excited over something so serious and deadly is sick.



You did notice that he said they didn't get excited, right?  He noted something about their 'situational awareness'.

I used to be a trained spotter.  Well, technically I still am, but you have to re-rate every so often and I just haven't done it.

These guys (TV meteorologists) are in a lose-lose situation.  They lose if they don't mention something dangerous and someone gets hurt (remember Ft. Smith about 15 years ago?) or they get lambasted by the general public for being too vocal.

I've been through several storms.  I remember June 8, 1974 and spending it at my uncle's house in Brookside being 7 years old and not knowing what was going on.  I remember the tornado that tore up the U Haul station on 129th and 21st Street.  Why?  My uncle owned that station.  I remember the devastation caused by the 1993 Catoosa tornado.  I remember May 3, 1999.  Although we didn't get hit too bad by that one, I was still covered with a matress in a bathtub.

I've seen firsthand what these monsters do.  They're beautiful and frightening and fascinating all in one.  The attitude some of the people take about a friggin TV show when it comes to saving lives is a little concerning.

I can't help but think about some things Edward R. Murrow said about the power of television:

"This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire, but it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires and lights in a box"
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: TulsaSooner on May 22, 2008, 08:57:10 AM
Sometimes reading these threads is like reading the Comments section at the Tulsa World website.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: tim huntzinger on May 22, 2008, 09:01:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by charky

QuoteOriginally posted by citizen72

As TUalum said...it's not like we're foaming at the mouth wanting death and destruction. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

But I'd be lying if I didn't say we feed off some adrenalin during severe weather events. Your brain is aching while assimilating a ridiculous amount of radar data. The excitement or fascination for me (and I would say for our entire staff) comes purely from a meteorological standpoint.



Sure there is the visceral fight or flight response which is natural.  And then there is the disco-beat promos some radio stations use to emphasize their on-air product.  That is fairly ogrish, and designed to create excitement and make it sound like fun.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: breitee on May 22, 2008, 09:23:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by charky

quote:
Originally posted by citizen72
I have a very good doctor that could treat you if you want. Getting excited over something so serious and deadly is sick.



Well let's not overreact now...ok?

As TUalum said...it's not like we're foaming at the mouth wanting death and destruction. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

But I'd be lying if I didn't say we feed off some adrenalin during severe weather events. Your brain is aching while assimilating a ridiculous amount of radar data. The excitement or fascination for me (and I would say for our entire staff) comes purely from a meteorological standpoint.





Sounds like a nerd to me.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: charky on May 22, 2008, 09:29:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Sure there is the visceral fight or flight response which is natural.  And then there is the disco-beat promos some radio stations use to emphasize their on-air product.  That is fairly ogrish, and designed to create excitement and make it sound like fun.



I agree with that. I am only stating what I have experienced as a government meteorologist with the NWS.

The broadcast meteorologists play a huge role in the warning process...and I'm thankful that our office has an excellent rapport with the local TV mets (can't say that for other markets).
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: sgrizzle on May 22, 2008, 10:07:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TulsaSooner

Sometimes reading these threads is like reading the Comments section at the Tulsa World website.



This forum has spell check.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: RecycleMichael on May 22, 2008, 11:02:49 AM
It is just a matter of time before the weatherman breaks into regular programming and  screams the word "Duck!".

Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: bokworker on May 22, 2008, 01:43:57 PM
I thought storm sirens were a signal to go outside and look for a tornado.....
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: citizen72 on May 22, 2008, 01:59:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by charky

quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Sure there is the visceral fight or flight response which is natural.  And then there is the disco-beat promos some radio stations use to emphasize their on-air product.  That is fairly ogrish, and designed to create excitement and make it sound like fun.



I agree with that. I am only stating what I have experienced as a government meteorologist with the NWS.

The broadcast meteorologists play a huge role in the warning process...and I'm thankful that our office has an excellent rapport with the local TV mets (can't say that for other markets).



Oh sure, and we need all of the stations in Tulsa telling us the same thing at the same time. Their incessant interruptions are one of the big reasons my wife and I do not watch any kind of programming on 2, 6 or 8 anymore.

That is, unless it is a Razorback game. [8D] Sorry, could not resist that. Sooooiee Pig!!
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: tulsarick on May 31, 2008, 05:42:12 PM
The hypocrisy of Fox23 is amazing. They beat us over the head with "keeping you, your kids, home, money, pets, etc safe" & then they fire 2 weatherman for attempting to do exactly that.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: mr.jaynes on June 01, 2008, 05:48:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by charky

quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Sure there is the visceral fight or flight response which is natural.  And then there is the disco-beat promos some radio stations use to emphasize their on-air product.  That is fairly ogrish, and designed to create excitement and make it sound like fun.



I agree with that. I am only stating what I have experienced as a government meteorologist with the NWS.

The broadcast meteorologists play a huge role in the warning process...and I'm thankful that our office has an excellent rapport with the local TV mets (can't say that for other markets).



Keep up the good work of keeping us safe.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: bugo on June 02, 2008, 12:25:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsarick

The hypocrisy of Fox23 is amazing. They beat us over the head with "keeping you, your kids, home, money, pets, etc safe" & then they fire 2 weatherman for attempting to do exactly that.



Yeah I hate that too.  If Fox 23 (or any of the other stations that use the "keeping you safe" crock) had a giant laser beam that shot tornadoes out of the sky and a net that covered the entire metro area that kept hail from denting our cars and a big wall between Tulsa and Keystone Lake to keep the wind from blowing, then they could rightfully claim they were "keeping us safe."  
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: bugo on June 02, 2008, 12:42:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by citizen72
That is, unless it is a Razorback game. [8D] Sorry, could not resist that. Sooooiee Pig!!



I've started watching Hog games on the internet.  If you have a decent connection, the quality is excellent.  It does tend to be a few seconds behind the TV broadcast.  I watched part of the SEC tournament online, and the NCAA tourney as well.  The good thing about watching games online is that the entire game is shown from start to end, not the schizophrenic switching from game to game that was the CBS broadcast this year.

How good do you think the Arkansas football team going to be this year?  I expect them to be better than expected this season, but next season I expect them to compete for the SEC title when Ryan Mallett is eligible to play.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 02, 2008, 08:37:37 AM
I think the hogs will lose on November 1st.  And I already bought tickets to the game.  Otherwise, I wish them the best of luck.  [:P]

/tangent
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Ttowndad on June 06, 2008, 09:57:05 AM
Thats what I keep telling all the younger "kids" I work with (many are new to Oklahoma).  "Tornado watch" means--go out and stare at the sky.  It's our duty as Oklahomans.[:D]
quote:
Originally posted by bokworker

I thought storm sirens were a signal to go outside and look for a tornado.....

Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: TURobY on June 06, 2008, 09:59:13 AM
Ha ha ha. Last night, 11:30 I heard the sirens go off. I immediately leaped from my bed, threw on some shorts and a shirt, and ran outside to see if there was anything worth looking at. [:P]
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: breitee on June 06, 2008, 10:28:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

frank mitchell next................pleeeease!
then carol lambert.



Frank Mitchell is like a Dana Carvey character, playing weather man.

"There's a tornado coming!  Isn't that special!"

Frank is on such an ego trip that he now has his "special" weather call feature. What a waste of time money and resources. Who in their right mind would subscribe to this?


Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Gold on June 06, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
I think the weather call is a neat idea.  The sirens are county wide, so you aren't always getting an accurate account of the risk.  The weather call does it by zip code.

Granted, I won't spend money on it, but I could see why someone might think it was useful.

KOTV tried to steal it away from KTUL, fwiw.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: downtowndweller on June 06, 2008, 02:22:23 PM
What ever became of the technology they used a few years back when they could pinpoint at what time a storm would cross a particular street?  It seems they have gone back to more widespread predictions. It seems as though they can't fiqure out which technology to use.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Ttowndad on June 06, 2008, 02:42:11 PM
KOTV still uses it quite a bit.  They were pretty accurate with it during last Sundays storm that blew through midtown.
quote:
Originally posted by downtowndweller

What ever became of the technology they used a few years back when they could pinpoint at what time a storm would cross a particular street?  It seems they have gone back to more widespread predictions. It seems as though they can't fiqure out which technology to use.

Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: mr.jaynes on June 06, 2008, 03:04:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by breitee

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

frank mitchell next................pleeeease!
then carol lambert.



Frank Mitchell is like a Dana Carvey character, playing weather man.

"There's a tornado coming!  Isn't that special!"

Frank is on such an ego trip that he now has his "special" weather call feature. What a waste of time money and resources. Who in their right mind would subscribe to this?






He does seem rather childlike when it comes to the weather, doesn't he.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: breitee on June 06, 2008, 03:28:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:
Originally posted by breitee

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

frank mitchell next................pleeeease!
then carol lambert.



Frank Mitchell is like a Dana Carvey character, playing weather man.

"There's a tornado coming!  Isn't that special!"

Frank is on such an ego trip that he now has his "special" weather call feature. What a waste of time money and resources. Who in their right mind would subscribe to this?






He does seem rather childlike when it comes to the weather, doesn't he.




A true "simple mind".
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: OUGrad05 on June 06, 2008, 09:55:04 PM
So thats what happened to him? He got suspended for covering up part of idol?  Screw Idol, he was one of the better mets in the metro and his forcasts were among the most accurate.  

I was wondering what happened to him, this is ridiculous :(
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: OUGrad05 on June 06, 2008, 09:56:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by breitee

They are ALL a bunch of no talent egotistical morons that have no life and get off on disrupting the lives of others.



So meteorologist provide no value huh?  

:rofl: thats the most ridiculous and ignorant thing I've read in a longgggg time.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: patric on June 07, 2008, 12:08:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by OUGrad05

So thats what happened to him? He got suspended for covering up part of idol?  Screw Idol, he was one of the better mets in the metro and his forcasts were among the most accurate.



I would have put him a close second after Jim Giles.  Slater helped pioneer the use of live streaming video from moving vehicles to track storms (which everyone else has since copied).
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: mr.jaynes on June 07, 2008, 01:07:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

frank mitchell next................pleeeease!
then carol lambert.



With the possible exception of certain parties on Fox23 news, I can see how 2,6, and 8 could stand a little overhauling when it comes to their on-air news personalities-and I've only been back to Tulsa for about 6 months!
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: sauerkraut on June 07, 2008, 02:59:36 PM
I didn't think he did a good job anyway. It's just as well. [xx(]
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: mr.jaynes on June 07, 2008, 05:52:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by OUGrad05

quote:
Originally posted by breitee

They are ALL a bunch of no talent egotistical morons that have no life and get off on disrupting the lives of others.



So meteorologist provide no value huh?  

:rofl: thats the most ridiculous and ignorant thing I've read in a longgggg time.



One could say that about some news anchors and reporters also.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: GG on June 07, 2008, 10:01:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sauerkraut

I didn't think he did a good job anyway. It's just as well. [xx(]



Oh and you monitor local news stations from Columbus, Ohio.  You have no earthly idea what he was like.   Other than he was not a hot chick.  

This just points up you ignorance.  [|)]

We have a Cliffy here from Cheer's, just likes to hear his head rattle..... [V]
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: OUGrad05 on June 07, 2008, 10:25:16 PM
Well as a long time weather aficianado this blows.  I always watched his evening broadcast and he was one of the few that would analyze the model data as it came in and give you the latest update at the end of the show.  Somethign the other three RARELY if ever do :(

Well maybe Fox will rehire him at double his salary or something, I dunno...but thats really crappy.  :(
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Fox 23 stormchaser on August 21, 2008, 05:28:32 AM
I love how you all run at the mouth about things you have no clue about. I work for Fox23 Im one of their stormchasers and John Slater wasnt fired nor did he get suspended for breaking in on american idol. The real reason John Slater no long works at fox 23 is because he didnt break in over american idol as soon as the tornado warning was issued in extreme southeren tulsa county he wait 35 seconds till the commerical to do a cut in. and managment got mad and suspended him for 3 days when he was to come back he turned in his stuff and quit. and that is the real reason John Slater is no longer with Fox 23 pual haggan is going to be the new cheif soon. And as for channel 2 hahahaha they are jokes i used to work there has anyone ever heard of stormchaser Adam McAdoo well thats me i now work at fox23.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Breadburner on August 21, 2008, 06:08:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fox 23 stormchaser

I love how you all run at the mouth about things you have no clue about. I work for Fox23 Im one of their stormchasers and John Slater wasnt fired nor did he get suspended for breaking in on american idol. The real reason John Slater no long works at fox 23 is because he didnt break in over american idol as soon as the tornado warning was issued in extreme southeren tulsa county he wait 35 seconds till the commerical to do a cut in. and managment got mad and suspended him for 3 days when he was to come back he turned in his stuff and quit. and that is the real reason John Slater is no longer with Fox 23 pual haggan is going to be the new cheif soon. And as for channel 2 hahahaha they are jokes i used to work there has anyone ever heard of stormchaser Adam McAdoo well thats me i now work at fox23.



Unlikely...And yawnnnn....
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Noodlez on August 21, 2008, 07:15:29 AM
http://www.kokh.com/sections/station/talent/jon_slater.shtml
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: citizen72 on August 21, 2008, 10:35:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fox 23 stormchaser

I love how you all run at the mouth about things you have no clue about. I work for Fox23 Im one of their stormchasers and John Slater wasnt fired nor did he get suspended for breaking in on american idol. The real reason John Slater no long works at fox 23 is because he didnt break in over american idol as soon as the tornado warning was issued in extreme southeren tulsa county he wait 35 seconds till the commerical to do a cut in. and managment got mad and suspended him for 3 days when he was to come back he turned in his stuff and quit. and that is the real reason John Slater is no longer with Fox 23 pual haggan is going to be the new cheif soon. And as for channel 2 hahahaha they are jokes i used to work there has anyone ever heard of stormchaser Adam McAdoo well thats me i now work at fox23.



You were doing fine and professional enough until that last sentence. Jon is probably the most skillful  meteorologist in Oklahoma. Fox23 lost a good one. Seems most everyone else are readers and repeaters.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Markk on August 21, 2008, 11:10:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fox 23 stormchaser

I love how you all run at the mouth about things you have no clue about. I work for Fox23 Im one of their stormchasers and John Slater wasnt fired nor did he get suspended for breaking in on american idol. The real reason John Slater no long works at fox 23 is because he didnt break in over american idol as soon as the tornado warning was issued in extreme southeren tulsa county he wait 35 seconds till the commerical to do a cut in. and managment got mad and suspended him for 3 days when he was to come back he turned in his stuff and quit. and that is the real reason John Slater is no longer with Fox 23 pual haggan is going to be the new cheif soon. And as for channel 2 hahahaha they are jokes i used to work there has anyone ever heard of stormchaser Adam McAdoo well thats me i now work at fox23.



It's called punctuation.  Try it sometime.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: sgrizzle on August 21, 2008, 11:18:04 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fox 23 stormchaser

I love how you all run at the mouth about things you have no clue about. I work for Fox23 Im one of their stormchasers and John Slater wasnt fired nor did he get suspended for breaking in on american idol. The real reason John Slater no long works at fox 23 is because he didnt break in over american idol as soon as the tornado warning was issued in extreme southeren tulsa county he wait 35 seconds till the commerical to do a cut in. and managment got mad and suspended him for 3 days when he was to come back he turned in his stuff and quit. and that is the real reason John Slater is no longer with Fox 23 pual haggan is going to be the new cheif soon. And as for channel 2 hahahaha they are jokes i used to work there has anyone ever heard of stormchaser Adam McAdoo well thats me i now work at fox23.



I like how you assume that you are the highest authority and no-one on this thread works there or knows Jon.. which has no "H" in it.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: MDepr2007 on August 21, 2008, 01:29:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fox 23 stormchaser

I love how you all run at the mouth about things you have no clue about. I work for Fox23 Im one of their stormchasers and John Slater wasnt fired nor did he get suspended for breaking in on american idol. The real reason John Slater no long works at fox 23 is because he didnt break in over american idol as soon as the tornado warning was issued in extreme southeren tulsa county he wait 35 seconds till the commerical to do a cut in. and managment got mad and suspended him for 3 days when he was to come back he turned in his stuff and quit. and that is the real reason John Slater is no longer with Fox 23 pual haggan is going to be the new cheif soon. And as for channel 2 hahahaha they are jokes i used to work there has anyone ever heard of stormchaser Adam McAdoo well thats me i now work at fox23.



Got a twister to let lose there "mister twister"?
http://profiles.camfrog.com/MisterTwister
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: dbacks fan on August 21, 2008, 01:52:21 PM


Got a twister to let lose there "mister twister"?
http://profiles.camfrog.com/MisterTwister
[/quote]

camfrog looks like a wannabe myspace. Cute Space? Pimp My space?

I'm sorry, I was chasing storms before he was born.

Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: MDepr2007 on August 21, 2008, 01:55:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dbacks fan



Got a twister to let lose there "mister twister"?
http://profiles.camfrog.com/MisterTwister



camfrog looks like a wannabe myspace. Cute Space? Pimp My space?

I'm sorry, I was chasing storms before he was born.


[/quote]

second that..
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Conan71 on August 21, 2008, 06:30:32 PM
Sorry McGoo, never heard of you.

Looks like John's working with a few butter faces now.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: inteller on August 22, 2008, 07:36:15 PM
Oklahoma news talent is filled with butter faces....thank goodness for Krista Flasch.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: Hoss on August 22, 2008, 08:17:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

Oklahoma news talent is filled with butter faces....thank goodness for Krista Flasch.



Meh..she's alright, but there's better.  But not as much so since Natalie Sentz left.
Title: Jon Slater out at Fox23
Post by: inteller on August 22, 2008, 09:47:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

Oklahoma news talent is filled with butter faces....thank goodness for Krista Flasch.



Meh..she's alright, but there's better.  But not as much so since Natalie Sentz left.



Yes, the Empire Bar mourns her absence.