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Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Composer on May 14, 2008, 02:39:53 AM
Dave and Buster's will be building in Broken Arrow

They bought 2.99 acres of land at 71st and 129th in Broken Arrow.  This would put it one mile east of the start of Tulsa's heavy retail corridor and one mile west of a Broken Arrow Wal-Mart/commercial center.  It would be near the new Copland's and Ted's Restaurants as well.  

This is kind of exciting for the Tulsa area.  Their stores range in all different sizes.  I am sure more info will be out soon.  

FROM THE D&B WEBSITE..

"Each Dave & Buster's offers an impressive selection of high-quality food and beverage items, combined with an extensive array of interactive entertainment attractions such as pocket billiards, shuffleboard, state-of the-art simulators, virtual reality and traditional carnival-style amusements and games of skill. Dave & Buster's emphasizes high levels of guest service in an upscale atmosphere to create casual, yet sophisticated, ideal playing conditions."
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: sgrizzle on May 14, 2008, 07:08:22 AM
Good news, horrible location.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: safetyguy on May 14, 2008, 07:34:35 AM
+1
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: restored2x on May 14, 2008, 08:28:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Good news, horrible location.



Why is this a horrible location?

I know it will be horrible for me, because I live right around the corner - and with D&Bs and QT going in there the traffic is gonna be a nightmare - but - any other reasons?
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Breadburner on May 14, 2008, 08:30:02 AM
I thought this was more porn spam which we have had alot of lately...
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: TheArtist on May 14, 2008, 08:55:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Breadburner

I thought this was more porn spam which we have had alot of lately...



That would be cuming not coming.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: sgrizzle on May 14, 2008, 09:00:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by restored2x

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Good news, horrible location.



Why is this a horrible location?

I know it will be horrible for me, because I live right around the corner - and with D&Bs and QT going in there the traffic is gonna be a nightmare - but - any other reasons?



Dave and Buster's is more of a destination location that needs to be part of a larger development (Tulsa Hills, Riverwalk, Downtown, etc) and also some place that is easily accessible. This location will serve BA and very little else because most people don't want to travel that way on 71st. The 71st and mingo/169/garnett area is a real divider that won't be fixed anytime soon.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: restored2x on May 14, 2008, 09:44:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by restored2x

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Good news, horrible location.



Why is this a horrible location?

I know it will be horrible for me, because I live right around the corner - and with D&Bs and QT going in there the traffic is gonna be a nightmare - but - any other reasons?



Dave and Buster's is more of a destination location that needs to be part of a larger development (Tulsa Hills, Riverwalk, Downtown, etc) and also some place that is easily accessible. This location will serve BA and very little else because most people don't want to travel that way on 71st. The 71st and mingo/169/garnett area is a real divider that won't be fixed anytime soon.



OK. Out of the places you mentioned, the only place I'd be likely to go to would be Riverwalk. Maybe downtown IF the ballpark is built. D&Bs next to the ballpark would be a hit, a homerun, but just placed downtown by itself - would be much worse than 71st and 129th. I've never been to Tulsa Hills, and highly doubt a D&Bs (or anything, for that matter) would lure me that far out. Actually, I've only been to Ted's once and never to Copeland's, even though it's on my way everywhere I go. Too crowded. I might wait and hour and a half for Maryland Crab Cakes or blue crabs - but not that overpriced junk.

Maybe they'll widen 129th out to the BAX soon. Or maybe 81st - which will soon become the alternative to 71st when all this stuff is up and running.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Composer on May 14, 2008, 09:47:37 AM
It is only a mile and a half from 169.  I really don't think it will matter.  This might encourage more things in the area which will build that region up.  Some business has to be the first.  I am just happy Dave and Buster's is coming.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: sgrizzle on May 14, 2008, 10:35:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by restored2x

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by restored2x

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Good news, horrible location.



Why is this a horrible location?

I know it will be horrible for me, because I live right around the corner - and with D&Bs and QT going in there the traffic is gonna be a nightmare - but - any other reasons?



Dave and Buster's is more of a destination location that needs to be part of a larger development (Tulsa Hills, Riverwalk, Downtown, etc) and also some place that is easily accessible. This location will serve BA and very little else because most people don't want to travel that way on 71st. The 71st and mingo/169/garnett area is a real divider that won't be fixed anytime soon.



OK. Out of the places you mentioned, the only place I'd be likely to go to would be Riverwalk. Maybe downtown IF the ballpark is built. D&Bs next to the ballpark would be a hit, a homerun, but just placed downtown by itself - would be much worse than 71st and 129th. I've never been to Tulsa Hills, and highly doubt a D&Bs (or anything, for that matter) would lure me that far out. Actually, I've only been to Ted's once and never to Copeland's, even though it's on my way everywhere I go. Too crowded. I might wait and hour and a half for Maryland Crab Cakes or blue crabs - but not that overpriced junk.

Maybe they'll widen 129th out to the BAX soon. Or maybe 81st - which will soon become the alternative to 71st when all this stuff is up and running.



That corridor is on the outstretches of BA and not where city officials want to put their road money. You have to realize that from Garnett to 169 is Tulsa so any road work there has very little priority. The widening of 61st took three different government agencies to get accomplished because it is on this difficult border.

And you're right, downtown would only work if it was part of another development, not part of an island. Next to the ballpark (when built) would be the #1 location in my book.

The reason I mention Tulsa Hills is that it is going to be larger than ANY development in BA and considering this is putting it on the same corner as an already failed restaurant, it's not exactly "happening" and has no plans to do so.

Composer - some business has to be first? This is the forth on that corner and keep in mind the second business on this corner already closed.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: T-TownMike on May 14, 2008, 10:40:21 AM
I agree they could have alot better location, but it's still good news for the metro.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Composer on May 14, 2008, 10:43:16 AM
It closed because it was no good.  I talked with people who worked there who did not like it.  

There are design plans now to widen 129th from 71st to 81st.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: restored2x on May 14, 2008, 11:10:42 AM
I know the hamburger stand closed - has anything else failed there?

Good news on the widening of 129th between 71st and 81st. It would be a tad more difficult to do 129th between 71st and 61st because of Floral Haven, I guess. (Isn't that all in BA?)
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Composer on May 14, 2008, 11:20:51 AM
That is all BA.  Broken Arrow is having its entire transportation system looked at by an outside company in order to prioritize road construction.  There is a bond issue coming in December or early next year.

Nothing else has failed over there.  Ted's is doing great and so is Copland's with a QT coming soon.  There is a new office building behind the old hamburger place that is 2/3 leased.  New apts are proposed east of here as well as a Gold's Gym.  Traffic counts are definitely strong.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: cannon_fodder on May 14, 2008, 01:38:21 PM
Thanks for the info update.  

Now, I don't mean to sound rude, but why do I care? It's like an adult "fun world" place or what?  Maybe I'm out of the loop, but just looking at their website I don't think I'd drive to BA to play mini-basketball and drink beer.

Sounds like I'm being a jerk (and thanks again for the info), but another chain is coming.  Why should I care beyond just the development news?
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: FOTD on May 14, 2008, 02:22:10 PM
The new site is due north of Best Buy. Mathis is selling them the 2.44 acre site.

That means a scaled down version of D and B.....

How come they aren't going over to Jinx?
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: sgrizzle on May 14, 2008, 02:26:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Thanks for the info update.  

Now, I don't mean to sound rude, but why do I care? It's like an adult "fun world" place or what?  Maybe I'm out of the loop, but just looking at their website I don't think I'd drive to BA to play mini-basketball and drink beer.

Sounds like I'm being a jerk (and thanks again for the info), but another chain is coming.  Why should I care beyond just the development news?



They are an adult incredible pizza and generally have high dollar games. One of those places great for pre-game or post-game entertainment.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: FOTD on May 14, 2008, 02:32:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Composer

It is only a mile and a half from 169.  I really don't think it will matter.  This might encourage more things in the area which will build that region up.  Some business has to be the first.  I am just happy Dave and Buster's is coming.



The new site has frontage on 169. FYI
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: T-TownMike on May 14, 2008, 02:51:05 PM
I'm glad to hear it's going in Tulsa and not B.A., anybody have a link to the plan?
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: sgrizzle on May 14, 2008, 02:52:59 PM
Frontage on 169?

In Tulsa?

Didn't the story say 71st & 129th... that is in BA and a mile and a half from 169.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: TeeDub on May 14, 2008, 05:02:16 PM

Apparently Dave and Busters got pissed at the people in Broken Arrow for not passing some silly tax...

And decided to move.

Or not.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: inteller on May 14, 2008, 09:00:51 PM
i think i see a lot of tulsans crying in their beer because BA got another coup with D&B.  Personally I could care less, but if it is anything like the one in Denver it will be HUGE.

Hey, at least Tulsa has Incredible Pizza Dumpster.

BA 2 Tulsa 0

Keep em coming....just wait till you see what Bixby has in store just south o the border.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Composer on May 14, 2008, 09:06:56 PM
Some may not think it is big news, but I posted it because many have suggested this place in the past. I think it would be great for the Tulsa are to get this. There are only 48 of them so it is not like it is a 1000 unit chain.  

The Tulsa Business Journal is reporting 71st and 129th. Why do you say north of Best Buy?

I live in Broken Arrow and think Tulsa has provided a lot of great places along 71st for the people of Broken Arrow so it would be nice for BA to provide a place like D&B.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: sgrizzle on May 14, 2008, 09:18:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Composer

Some may not think it is big news, but I posted it because many have suggested this place in the past. I think it would be great for the Tulsa are to get this. There are only 48 of them so it is not like it is a 1000 unit chain.  

The Tulsa Business Journal is reporting 71st and 129th. Why do you say north of Best Buy?

I live in Broken Arrow and think Tulsa has provided a lot of great places along 71st for the people of Broken Arrow so it would be nice for BA to provide a place like D&B.



If D&B goes to BA, it needs to be by Bass Pro, or the new target, or somewhere like that.

Tulsa could use something like that at I-44 & delaware in the shopping center that construction nearly killed.

There is dirtwork going on behind best buy but I thought that is just for the hotel, although there is a lot of space there. There is also dirtwork and some changed traffic signs for the lot east of woodland hills mall, behind circuit city.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Ibanez on May 14, 2008, 09:40:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

i think i see a lot of tulsans crying in their beer because BA got another coup with D&B.  Personally I could care less, but if it is anything like the one in Denver it will be HUGE.

Hey, at least Tulsa has Incredible Pizza Dumpster.

BA 2 Tulsa 0

Keep em coming....just wait till you see what Bixby has in store just south o the border.



So what is coming to Bixby? Please enlighten me.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: PonderInc on May 14, 2008, 09:46:11 PM
quote:
"Each Dave & Buster's offers...state-of the-art simulators, virtual reality and traditional carnival-style amusements and games of skill."


The first time I read that, I thought it said "state of the art stimulators"...and I was intrigued.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: brunoflipper on May 14, 2008, 09:46:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

i think i see a lot of tulsans crying in their beer because BA got another coup with D&B.  Personally I could care less, but if it is anything like the one in Denver it will be HUGE.

Hey, at least Tulsa has Incredible Pizza Dumpster.

BA 2 Tulsa 0

Keep em coming....just wait till you see what Bixby has in store just south o the border.



So what is coming to Bixby? Please enlighten me.

oh, he thinks theyre getting a cabelas
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: inteller on May 14, 2008, 10:37:34 PM
no, not that...although that is another one tulsa is missing out on.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: FOTD on May 14, 2008, 10:57:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Composer

Some may not think it is big news, but I posted it because many have suggested this place in the past. I think it would be great for the Tulsa are to get this. There are only 48 of them so it is not like it is a 1000 unit chain.  

The Tulsa Business Journal is reporting 71st and 129th. Why do you say north of Best Buy?

I live in Broken Arrow and think Tulsa has provided a lot of great places along 71st for the people of Broken Arrow so it would be nice for BA to provide a place like D&B.



TBJ? Don't believe everything you read in print, on the web or see throught the MSM.

It's hard to do, but sometimes you must trust the devil. He has friends in low places.

Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Ibanez on May 14, 2008, 11:00:17 PM
I've heard that the Cabela's in Bixby was just a crazy rumor.

C'mon give us the scoop about this phantom development down here. God knows we need something...anything.....I can only go to Lowe's or Wal-Mart(which is Tulsa anyway) so many times.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: YoungTulsan on May 14, 2008, 11:13:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

I've heard that the Cabela's in Bixby was just a crazy rumor.

C'mon give us the scoop about this phantom development down here. God knows we need something...anything.....I can only go to Lowe's or Wal-Mart(which is Tulsa anyway) so many times.




There is the Super Target coming, perhaps a larger more impressive development is going to go along with it than we assume?

I mean, if they ever get around to building the damn thing.  Wal-mart already retaliated and got a store up and running while that Target is still an idea on paper.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Composer on May 15, 2008, 02:29:03 AM
Wherever the location is, it will be good for Tulsa.  I think companies will begin to see that Tulsa's economy is strong right now even though the rest of the country is not doing as well.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: joiei on May 15, 2008, 05:53:14 AM
Personally, they can build the Dave and Busters anywhere they want, the chances of my ever going there are slim.  I already have my pizza favorites.  As for the games, just not for me.  I am sure they will do plenty of business without my dollars and will not miss mine.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Hawkins on May 15, 2008, 11:57:15 AM
I don't think a Dave & Busters will work anywhere in Tulsa or the surrounding area.

We don't have a large enough population base, nor the tourism draw that this franchise likes to shoot for.

Can anyone provide a link to this source, because I don't think its going to happen.





Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: safetyguy on May 15, 2008, 12:08:08 PM
http://www.tulsabusiness.com/article.asp?aID=56080375.6250874.614445.2196285.6864327.972&aID2=47256
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: FOTD on May 15, 2008, 12:15:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

http://www.tulsabusiness.com/article.asp?aID=56080375.6250874.614445.2196285.6864327.972&aID2=47256




There in lies the confusion.....
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Post by: Ibanez on May 15, 2008, 03:23:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by YoungTulsan

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

I've heard that the Cabela's in Bixby was just a crazy rumor.

C'mon give us the scoop about this phantom development down here. God knows we need something...anything.....I can only go to Lowe's or Wal-Mart(which is Tulsa anyway) so many times.




There is the Super Target coming, perhaps a larger more impressive development is going to go along with it than we assume?

I mean, if they ever get around to building the damn thing.  Wal-mart already retaliated and got a store up and running while that Target is still an idea on paper.



That Super Target is going to be in Tulsa at 101st the last I heard. Has that changed? Bixby needs some development, especially on the South side of the river, in a bad bad way.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: YoungTulsan on May 15, 2008, 03:56:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

quote:
Originally posted by YoungTulsan

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

I've heard that the Cabela's in Bixby was just a crazy rumor.

C'mon give us the scoop about this phantom development down here. God knows we need something...anything.....I can only go to Lowe's or Wal-Mart(which is Tulsa anyway) so many times.




There is the Super Target coming, perhaps a larger more impressive development is going to go along with it than we assume?

I mean, if they ever get around to building the damn thing.  Wal-mart already retaliated and got a store up and running while that Target is still an idea on paper.



That Super Target is going to be in Tulsa at 101st the last I heard. Has that changed? Bixby needs some development, especially on the South side of the river, in a bad bad way.



I always thought it was going in on the huge chunk of land on the northwest corner of 121st & Memorial.  But with the lack of anything ever happening, I suppose they could have changed plans?  But notice that Bixby has already done infrastructure/road work all along 121st from Sheridan to Memorial, in anticipation of there being developments all down that way.

How far to the west down 151st street (highway 67) is still Bixby?  That is where the next slew of south-of-the-river explosive development will occur.  I see 151st street between Highway 75 and Memorial a decade from now as looking like 71st street does now.  Or perhaps what South Memorial looks like now.
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Post by: perspicuity85 on May 15, 2008, 06:37:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

I don't think a Dave & Busters will work anywhere in Tulsa or the surrounding area.

We don't have a large enough population base, nor the tourism draw that this franchise likes to shoot for.

Can anyone provide a link to this source, because I don't think its going to happen.




Counting Tulsa, these would be the smallest D & B's markets:
Omaha: 829,890
Tulsa: 905,755
Buffalo: 1,128,183
source: http://www.census.gov/population/www/estimates/CBSA-est2007-annual.html

Omaha is certainly not a national tourism draw, and Buffalo is close to Niagara, but the entire metro area has lost population for eight straight years.  To me, Tulsa seems like a good place for D & B's to diffuse their brand.  They've already started with Omaha.  The location and management will be the make-or-break.  71st/129th is quickly becoming part of the existing 71st st. retail area.  D & B's probably feels they will attract continued development at that intersection.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: TUalum0982 on May 16, 2008, 05:37:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

I don't think a Dave & Busters will work anywhere in Tulsa or the surrounding area.

We don't have a large enough population base, nor the tourism draw that this franchise likes to shoot for.

Can anyone provide a link to this source, because I don't think its going to happen.









You don't have the tourism draw thato ther cities have, but you have ALOT of young business travelers that will go there after meetings, drink some beer and play their games.  Also many many people fly into Tulsa to go to Branson, they too will probably be inclined to stop and grab a bite.  I bet a D&B would flourish with the right managment staff.
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Post by: TheTed on May 16, 2008, 08:55:21 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

I don't think a Dave & Busters will work anywhere in Tulsa or the surrounding area.

We don't have a large enough population base, nor the tourism draw that this franchise likes to shoot for.

Can anyone provide a link to this source, because I don't think its going to happen.









You don't have the tourism draw thato ther cities have, but you have ALOT of young business travelers that will go there after meetings, drink some beer and play their games.  Also many many people fly into Tulsa to go to Branson, they too will probably be inclined to stop and grab a bite.  I bet a D&B would flourish with the right managment staff.


People fly to go to Branson? Who are they? Ned Flanders?
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: bigdtottown on May 16, 2008, 08:57:27 AM
I passed one of the D&B here in Dallas 2-3 times a week for about 4-5 years going to my Tae Kwon Do class...I don't know that it's what we'd call a "tourist attraction".  The handful of times we stopped in to grab a beer or two it was about 90% young males playing video games with maybe a few families eating and a moderate bar crowd.  I don't think Tulsa will be short on young males wanting to play video games.
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Post by: TUalum0982 on May 16, 2008, 01:34:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TheTed

quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

I don't think a Dave & Busters will work anywhere in Tulsa or the surrounding area.

We don't have a large enough population base, nor the tourism draw that this franchise likes to shoot for.

Can anyone provide a link to this source, because I don't think its going to happen.









You don't have the tourism draw thato ther cities have, but you have ALOT of young business travelers that will go there after meetings, drink some beer and play their games.  Also many many people fly into Tulsa to go to Branson, they too will probably be inclined to stop and grab a bite.  I bet a D&B would flourish with the right managment staff.


People fly to go to Branson? Who are they? Ned Flanders?



about as dorky yes...working at the airport I see people everyday that fly in and drive over to branson! There isn't a close airport near branson that has the "flight selection" Tulsa does.  And I use the term "flight selection" modestly!
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Post by: inteller on May 16, 2008, 03:12:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

quote:
Originally posted by YoungTulsan

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

I've heard that the Cabela's in Bixby was just a crazy rumor.

C'mon give us the scoop about this phantom development down here. God knows we need something...anything.....I can only go to Lowe's or Wal-Mart(which is Tulsa anyway) so many times.




There is the Super Target coming, perhaps a larger more impressive development is going to go along with it than we assume?

I mean, if they ever get around to building the damn thing.  Wal-mart already retaliated and got a store up and running while that Target is still an idea on paper.



That Super Target is going to be in Tulsa at 101st the last I heard. Has that changed? Bixby needs some development, especially on the South side of the river, in a bad bad way.



well I can tell you this.  Jiffy Lube is going forward and building at 121st/mem.  Think about the other Jiffy Lubes around town and their proximity to a certain retailer.  Think of what was at 71st/memorial.

But I'm not talking about that development per se.  I'm talking about the development at the SE corner of 101st/memorial.  Bixby City Council already had the reading for the final plat.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: sgrizzle on May 16, 2008, 06:18:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

quote:
Originally posted by YoungTulsan

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

I've heard that the Cabela's in Bixby was just a crazy rumor.

C'mon give us the scoop about this phantom development down here. God knows we need something...anything.....I can only go to Lowe's or Wal-Mart(which is Tulsa anyway) so many times.




There is the Super Target coming, perhaps a larger more impressive development is going to go along with it than we assume?

I mean, if they ever get around to building the damn thing.  Wal-mart already retaliated and got a store up and running while that Target is still an idea on paper.



That Super Target is going to be in Tulsa at 101st the last I heard. Has that changed? Bixby needs some development, especially on the South side of the river, in a bad bad way.



well I can tell you this.  Jiffy Lube is going forward and building at 121st/mem.  Think about the other Jiffy Lubes around town and their proximity to a certain retailer.  Think of what was at 71st/memorial.

But I'm not talking about that development per se.  I'm talking about the development at the SE corner of 101st/memorial.  Bixby City Council already had the reading for the final plat.



Every Jiffy Lube I know is near a Bueno.. is that it?
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Ibanez on May 16, 2008, 08:59:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

quote:
Originally posted by YoungTulsan

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

I've heard that the Cabela's in Bixby was just a crazy rumor.

C'mon give us the scoop about this phantom development down here. God knows we need something...anything.....I can only go to Lowe's or Wal-Mart(which is Tulsa anyway) so many times.




There is the Super Target coming, perhaps a larger more impressive development is going to go along with it than we assume?

I mean, if they ever get around to building the damn thing.  Wal-mart already retaliated and got a store up and running while that Target is still an idea on paper.



That Super Target is going to be in Tulsa at 101st the last I heard. Has that changed? Bixby needs some development, especially on the South side of the river, in a bad bad way.



well I can tell you this.  Jiffy Lube is going forward and building at 121st/mem.  Think about the other Jiffy Lubes around town and their proximity to a certain retailer.  Think of what was at 71st/memorial.

But I'm not talking about that development per se.  I'm talking about the development at the SE corner of 101st/memorial.  Bixby City Council already had the reading for the final plat.



Chuck E. Cheese?
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Ibanez on May 16, 2008, 10:43:19 PM
This is all I could find:

Discuss and/or approve action on a Preliminary Plat and certain Waivers/Modifications for 101 South Memorial Plaza (PUD 63), located in a part of 101 South Memorial Center and the NW/4 NW/4 of Section 25, T18N, R13E, located south of 101st Street South and east of Memorial Drive. Erik Enyart, City Planner
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: dbacks fan on May 17, 2008, 12:09:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

I don't think a Dave & Busters will work anywhere in Tulsa or the surrounding area.

We don't have a large enough population base, nor the tourism draw that this franchise likes to shoot for.

Can anyone provide a link to this source, because I don't think its going to happen.





I think it might work with the right location, but having been gone for 10 years so much has changed.

On the tourism part, personaly for my wife and I when we travel we always ask the locals where they go for good food and fun. Generally if we have it in Phoenix and haven't been there we more than likely will not go there on a trip, and if we have been there, there is no point to go there while on vacation. One of the best places was this little mom and pop Italian deli in San Jose, I was thinking Arby's and she happened to see this place that if weren't looking for it you would miss it. It was very much like Cedars Imports, (I still remember it as Antones)but the food was fresh and the prices were great.

Anyway just my two cents.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: inteller on May 17, 2008, 09:14:41 PM
like it or not 71st/169 is a tourist destination.  It is a joke no doubt, but it is big times for someone from Inola.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: sgrizzle on May 17, 2008, 10:48:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

like it or not 71st/169 is a tourist destination.  It is a joke no doubt, but it is big times for someone from Inola.



They can take their date to Olive Garden.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: dbacks fan on May 17, 2008, 11:00:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

like it or not 71st/169 is a tourist destination.  It is a joke no doubt, but it is big times for someone from Inola.



They can take their date to Olive Garden.




And then spend the night at the Fairfield Inn, and brag the next day about spending the weekend in the "Big City".[}:)]

But seriously, it's been four years since I have been back to Tulsa and the wife and I are thinking about taking an extended vacation later this year, fly into Tulsa and spend a couple of days and then driving to Memphis, and maybe New Orleans as well. If not New Orleans I have relatives in Edomond I think we would go see. I would definitely have to check out all the changes in the downtown area, avoiding anything owned by Steve Kitchel mind you, but that's another story for another time.

(Mental note, check out thread on Downtown stadium plan)
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Post by: SJC TUL on May 18, 2008, 01:33:56 AM
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One of the best places was this little mom and pop Italian deli in San Jose, I was thinking Arby's and she happened to see this place that if weren't looking for it you would miss it. It was very much like Cedars Imports, (I still remember it as Antones)but the food was fresh and the prices were great.



What's the name and location of this SJ deli?

Regarding D&B, I wouldn't think of it as a touristy place.  We have one in nearby Milpitas.  I went there when it first opened many years ago because a friend's cousin was there from D&B HQ.  He treated us to the meal and gave us unlimited access to the games.  The food was fine.  I had virtually no interest in the games.  I've never had the inclination to want to go back.  Nothing against D&B, it just didn't do much for me.  That said, I guess it has its following and I'm glad to see something like this go into the Tulsa area.
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Post by: sgrizzle on May 18, 2008, 09:35:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by dbacks fan

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

like it or not 71st/169 is a tourist destination.  It is a joke no doubt, but it is big times for someone from Inola.



They can take their date to Olive Garden.




And then spend the night at the Fairfield Inn, and brag the next day about spending the weekend in the "Big City".[}:)]

But seriously, it's been four years since I have been back to Tulsa and the wife and I are thinking about taking an extended vacation later this year, fly into Tulsa and spend a couple of days and then driving to Memphis, and maybe New Orleans as well. If not New Orleans I have relatives in Edomond I think we would go see. I would definitely have to check out all the changes in the downtown area, avoiding anything owned by Steve Kitchel mind you, but that's another story for another time.

(Mental note, check out thread on Downtown stadium plan)



Kitchell is getting easier to avoid.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: dbacks fan on May 19, 2008, 09:52:33 AM
quote:
Originally posted by SJC TUL

quote:
One of the best places was this little mom and pop Italian deli in San Jose, I was thinking Arby's and she happened to see this place that if weren't looking for it you would miss it. It was very much like Cedars Imports, (I still remember it as Antones)but the food was fresh and the prices were great.



What's the name and location of this SJ deli?

Regarding D&B, I wouldn't think of it as a touristy place.  We have one in nearby Milpitas.  I went there when it first opened many years ago because a friend's cousin was there from D&B HQ.  He treated us to the meal and gave us unlimited access to the games.  The food was fine.  I had virtually no interest in the games.  I've never had the inclination to want to go back.  Nothing against D&B, it just didn't do much for me.  That said, I guess it has its following and I'm glad to see something like this go into the Tulsa area.



I actually found where the place is but can't think of the name of it. I found it using Google Earth following the route we took form the Winchester House to get to the 280 to go to the Golden Gate. The place had a unique parking lot that was only two spaces wide between the building and the sidewalk. It's just west of Tyler on the north side of Stevens Creek Blvd. Here is a picture of the place.
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p309/kallsop2/SanJose.jpg)
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Townsend on May 19, 2008, 01:22:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dbacks fan

I actually found where the place is but can't think of the name of it. I found it using Google Earth following the route we took form the Winchester House to get to the 280 to go to the Golden Gate. The place had a unique parking lot that was only two spaces wide between the building and the sidewalk. It's just west of Tyler on the north side of Stevens Creek Blvd. Here is a picture of the place.



Man, I thought my memory was selective.  Nice job locating it though.
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Post by: dbacks fan on May 19, 2008, 03:44:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Townsend

quote:
Originally posted by dbacks fan

I actually found where the place is but can't think of the name of it. I found it using Google Earth following the route we took form the Winchester House to get to the 280 to go to the Golden Gate. The place had a unique parking lot that was only two spaces wide between the building and the sidewalk. It's just west of Tyler on the north side of Stevens Creek Blvd. Here is a picture of the place.



Man, I thought my memory was selective.  Nice job locating it though.



When it comes to good food, there is a permanent file for future reference in my head.

The other thing is I have been involve in photography for 30 some years and tend to remember details about things.
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Post by: nathanm on May 20, 2008, 01:56:52 AM
quote:

I actually found where the place is but can't think of the name of it. I found it using Google Earth following the route we took form the Winchester House to get to the 280 to go to the Golden Gate. The place had a unique parking lot that was only two spaces wide between the building and the sidewalk. It's just west of Tyler on the north side of Stevens Creek Blvd. Here is a picture of the place.


Say thanks to Garmin and NAVTEQ.
quote:

Lupretta's Italian Deli
3443 Stevens Creek Blvd
San Jose, CA 95117
408-243-5236



(Unless I'm wrong, in which case say "damn you!" to Garmin and NAVTEQ)
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: dbacks fan on May 20, 2008, 09:29:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by nathanm

quote:

I actually found where the place is but can't think of the name of it. I found it using Google Earth following the route we took form the Winchester House to get to the 280 to go to the Golden Gate. The place had a unique parking lot that was only two spaces wide between the building and the sidewalk. It's just west of Tyler on the north side of Stevens Creek Blvd. Here is a picture of the place.


Say thanks to Garmin and NAVTEQ.
quote:

Lupretta's Italian Deli
3443 Stevens Creek Blvd
San Jose, CA 95117
408-243-5236



(Unless I'm wrong, in which case say "damn you!" to Garmin and NAVTEQ)



I think thats it. Gotta love technology.
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Post by: dbacks fan on May 20, 2008, 01:28:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by nathanm

quote:

I actually found where the place is but can't think of the name of it. I found it using Google Earth following the route we took form the Winchester House to get to the 280 to go to the Golden Gate. The place had a unique parking lot that was only two spaces wide between the building and the sidewalk. It's just west of Tyler on the north side of Stevens Creek Blvd. Here is a picture of the place.


Say thanks to Garmin and NAVTEQ.
quote:

Lupretta's Italian Deli
3443 Stevens Creek Blvd
San Jose, CA 95117
408-243-5236



(Unless I'm wrong, in which case say "damn you!" to Garmin and NAVTEQ)



Googled it just out of curiosity.....


http://www.svcn.com/archives/lgwt/20050323/lgtaste.shtml (//%22http://%22)

http://www.metrosantacruz.com/metro/06.14.06/dining-0624.html (//%22http://%22)
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: TURobY on May 21, 2008, 06:38:47 AM
Tulsa World (//%22http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?articleID=20080521_46_E1_spancl615166%22)

quote:
The Tulsa World learned that the company has purchased three acres of land at 71st Street and 101st East Avenue, between Best Buy Co. and Mathis Brothers Furniture.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: sgrizzle on May 21, 2008, 07:30:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

Tulsa World (//%22http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?articleID=20080521_46_E1_spancl615166%22)

quote:
The Tulsa World learned that the company has purchased three acres of land at 71st Street and 101st East Avenue, between Best Buy Co. and Mathis Brothers Furniture.




So where did the hotel go?

And what is being built east of woodland hills mall, behind circuit city?
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: Composer on May 21, 2008, 09:12:22 AM
There are pad sites so I imagine the restaurant is going in there in front of the hotel.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: sgrizzle on May 21, 2008, 09:31:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Composer

There are pad sites so I imagine the restaurant is going in there in front of the hotel.



You got a site plan?
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Post by: FOTD on May 21, 2008, 12:48:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

Tulsa World (//%22http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?articleID=20080521_46_E1_spancl615166%22)

quote:
The Tulsa World learned that the company has purchased three acres of land at 71st Street and 101st East Avenue, between Best Buy Co. and Mathis Brothers Furniture.




The Devil told you so!  Nobody believes in The Devil.

At the ICSC this week in Vegass, every local municipality has sent reps out to find deals for their cities. Mayor Kathy was there. Your tax dollars at work. What a waste. Leave private enterprise to the hard working people.

Bixby and Jenks BOTH are getting a Nordstrom.....don't always believe in the devil.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: SJC TUL on May 21, 2008, 04:50:26 PM
Thanks, dbacksfan and nathanm!  I'll check it out.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: joiei on May 21, 2008, 05:23:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

Tulsa World (//%22http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?articleID=20080521_46_E1_spancl615166%22)

quote:
The Tulsa World learned that the company has purchased three acres of land at 71st Street and 101st East Avenue, between Best Buy Co. and Mathis Brothers Furniture.




The Devil told you so!  Nobody believes in The Devil.

At the ICSC this week in Vegass, every local municipality has sent reps out to find deals for their cities. Mayor Kathy was there. Your tax dollars at work. What a waste. Leave private enterprise to the hard working people.

Bixby and Jenks BOTH are getting a Nordstrom.....don't always believe in the devil.

Like a Nordstrom is supposed to be better than a Walmart?  Other posters at this site will probably argue that the 8000 # gorilla of retail is far better than any old nordstroms.  I mean all their stuff is designed by Kathy Lee or other people who used to be famous.
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Post by: batiger21 on June 02, 2008, 06:46:42 PM
Dave & Busters is not building in the Broken Arrow area at all, They have purchsed land behind Best buy on 71st next to Mathis Brothers which would be the best idea due to that its on the highway and Visually noticeable. The article can be found on the Tulsa World site.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?articleID=20080521_46_E1_spancl615166
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: FOTD on June 02, 2008, 06:49:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by batiger21

Dave & Busters is not building in the Broken Arrow area at all, They have purchsed land behind Best buy on 71st next to Mathis Brothers which would be the best idea due to that its on the highway and Visually noticeable. The article can be found on the Tulsa World site.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?articleID=20080521_46_E1_spancl615166



Newbie, This is the devil's buddy. Read prior posts. You won't look as silly. Welcome to the forum from hell. Make it heavenly.
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Post by: we vs us on June 02, 2008, 08:17:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD


Newbie, This is the devil's buddy. Read prior posts. You won't look as silly. Welcome to the forum from hell. Make it heavenly.



You're weird.
Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: dbacks fan on June 02, 2008, 09:16:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by we vs us

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD


Newbie, This is the devil's buddy. Read prior posts. You won't look as silly. Welcome to the forum from hell. Make it heavenly.



You're weird.



Thanks, I thought I was weird for finding aplace my wife and I had lunch at almost 5 years ago using Google Earth.[8D]
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Post by: spincycle on June 03, 2008, 12:23:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

I've heard that the Cabela's in Bixby was just a crazy rumor.

C'mon give us the scoop about this phantom development down here. God knows we need something...anything.....I can only go to Lowe's or Wal-Mart(which is Tulsa anyway) so many times.



I heard an interview with Mayor of Bixby on KJRH last night (Sunday, I think) saying that 22 restaurants (upscale he said) have opened in Bixby. Now, I think that upscale might be a step above Quik Trip, but I am not sure what they are.
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Post by: mv_princess on June 03, 2008, 04:53:16 PM
We used to have a D&B back in MD, they were the best! Great food and great times.

Ours was tucked away in a mall, if you weren't looking for it you wouldn't find it. But I think it would be great for a city like this.
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Post by: mrB on June 25, 2008, 12:17:23 AM
quote:

For The Record

By Staff Reports
6/22/2008  12:00 AM


Commercial Building Permits

(Listed by owner, tenant or building name. Weekly update lists new commercial construction, expansions and enlargements of more than $50,000. Information is from initial applications and is subject to change. Dollar amount is valuation declared by owner.)

...
Dave & Buster's , 6812 S. 105th East Ave., new restaurant, $4.8 million.
...

Copyright © 2008, World Publishing Co. All rights reserved

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectID=46&articleID=20080622_46_E2_hComme372695



Permits filed, must be official?

Title: Dave and Buster's Coming!
Post by: sgrizzle on June 25, 2008, 06:52:34 AM
Yeah, and although I loathe driving through 71st and 169 most days, I think it will last longer having highway visibility as opposed to the BA location mentioned previously.
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Post by: MDepr2007 on June 25, 2008, 06:21:28 PM
D&B food reminds me of frozen dinners, just a little more of the pricey version though.
Game room will be full of the kids and not young adults especially in that location.[;)]