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Originally posted by FOTD
Wow! You've almost convinced me! But there is no precedent for lying us into war.
- Revolutionary War ("Massacre at Concord" and many other atrocities that led to all out war were greatly exaggerated by the patriots)
-War of 1812 (we greatly over reported the harassment of US shipping in order to assert ourselves and try a land grab in Canada)
- Mexican American War (Overtly picked a fight for a land grab)
- Civil War (plenty of lying to go around)
- Spanish American War ("Remember the Maine..." whose boiler blew up but we ignored that fact for another land grab)
- WWI (constant promises to stay out of the "European War" were eventually ignored)
- Vietnam (Many claim the Gulf of Tonken was a setup, add to it our 'advisers' and continued promises of no escalation)
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Originally posted by FOTD
Wow! You've almost convinced me! But there is no precedent for lying us into war.
Thanks again for showing your vast knowledge. Wars are usually started by lies. Some history sees as vindicated or can at least fuzz (civil war was to stop slavery), other's are not (largely Mexican American war is now seen as an overt land grab). Making a judgment short of 30 years is too soon to really know.
That is, of course, ignoring the entire premise of "he lied" for which you nor anyone else have actual proof. A lie being not a statement that turns out to be false, but something said known to be untrue at the time. With actual proof the Democrats and hopefully the Republicans would begin an impeachment proceeding like they did against Clinton.