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Chicken Little
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« on: October 17, 2007, 10:59:11 pm » |
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iplaw
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2007, 07:59:54 am » |
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Not even close.
If you examine the statements of President Tom, you'll see that he wishes to bring about WWIII to hasten the coming of the Islamic messiah. If they obtain nuclear weapons they believe that using them will bring bring about the final establishment of the caliphate (he has said so on dozens of occasions).
Bush is stating that allowing them to get nuclear wepons will cause WWIII...because Iran has made it clear that if they procure those weapons that they will use them.
Bush is merely reiterating that which President Tom has made clear. Unfortunately, most Americans aren't even paying attention to what the nutjob from Iran is saying. He's made it clear that he intends to wipe both Israel and the US off the map by any means possible. Starting WWIII by launching nukes against Israel would be a convenient means to bring about those ends.
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tim huntzinger
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2007, 09:17:29 am » |
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Here is one to chew on: if the liberal left needs to keep the poor and downtrodden 'down' in order for the liberal left to maintain power, what state of affairs does the right need to maintain its power?
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iplaw
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2007, 10:15:09 am » |
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The situation is what it is. Iran has made it clear that it wishes to wipe Israel and the US off the map in order to establish a holy caliphate in the middle east. To accomplish that goal they must hasten the coming of the messiah who they believe will only come back by way of a great war.
You can decide to ignore what they state explicitly (Iran's leaders have stated this over and over and over again), which we did with OBL and reap the consquences for ignoring them, or we can learn lessons from 9/11 and head these scenarios off at the pass.
What's the up-side of allowing Iran to get nukes?
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Breadburner
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2007, 11:21:28 am » |
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Conan71
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2007, 11:23:51 am » |
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"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first” -Ronald Reagan
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Friendly Bear
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2007, 01:01:58 pm » |
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Originally posted by iplaw
Not even close.
If you examine the statements of President Tom, you'll see that he wishes to bring about WWIII to hasten the coming of the Islamic messiah. If they obtain nuclear weapons they believe that using them will bring bring about the final establishment of the caliphate (he has said so on dozens of occasions).
Bush is stating that allowing them to get nuclear wepons will cause WWIII...because Iran has made it clear that if they procure those weapons that they will use them.
Bush is merely reiterating that which President Tom has made clear. Unfortunately, most Americans aren't even paying attention to what the nutjob from Iran is saying. He's made it clear that he intends to wipe both Israel and the US off the map by any means possible. Starting WWIII by launching nukes against Israel would be a convenient means to bring about those ends.
Attack them NOW with massive thermonuclear cruise missle strikes at all major military, nuclear research, and significant population centers. Turn their entire country into Radioactive Kitty Litter. Try to avoid collateral damage to the oil industry. The world needs their oil. We DO NOT need THEM: Alive. Then, let people read about the "Persians" in the history books. Future Wikipedia entry for "Persians". Former central Asian people, whose rabid, intolerant, messianic, and suicidal Theocracy since A.D.1979 so theatened world peace that the Western Democracies exterminated the ill-kempt vermin from the face of the earth, circa 2008.
Scattered survivors are reported peaceably living in family-sized units throughout the world.
See Also entry for Iran.[}:)] |
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Breadburner
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2007, 01:09:19 pm » |
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I had the pleasure of talking to a few Iranians a while back, two men and one women..At first they were embarassed to admit where they were from.....But after talking to them they were very vocal about their disdain for Ahmadinejad as are most Iranians.....
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Conan71
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2007, 01:16:48 pm » |
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Originally posted by Breadburner
I had the pleasure of talking to a few Iranians a while back, two men and one women..At first they were embarassed to admit where they were from.....But after talking to them they were very vocal about their disdain for Ahmadinejad as are most Iranians.....
Talk to just about any Iranian when they are outside Iran and they all pretty much share that sentiment. That's why asshat dictators keep an iron fist of intimidation hanging over the heads of their subjects. |
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"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first” -Ronald Reagan
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2007, 01:50:28 pm » |
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Originally posted by Conan71
That's why asshat dictators keep an iron fist of intimidation hanging over the heads of their subjects.
Yup, we're at Homeland Security status "Yellow". |
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Friendly Bear
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2007, 01:52:02 pm » |
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Originally posted by Breadburner
I had the pleasure of talking to a few Iranians a while back, two men and one women..At first they were embarassed to admit where they were from.....But after talking to them they were very vocal about their disdain for Ahmadinejad as are most Iranians.....
Maybe they were also telling you what you wanted to hear. You're a dhimmi, afterall. In their world view, just barely human. But, a non-entity nonetheless. Their holy book permits them to freely LIE to you if it advances their religion. By the way, you're past due on your jizyah (poll tax), living under implicit world-wide Sharia Law. Practically every trouble spot in the world, is Muslim vs. [Fill in the blank]. Muslims vs.: Catholic Christians Protestant Christians Orthodox Christians Jews Hindus Buddists Confucionists Animists (Sudan) They don't seem to actually be able to get along with ANYBODY, including each other. Welcome to the New World Disorder. [}:)] |
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Townsend
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2007, 02:03:59 pm » |
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Breadburner
I had the pleasure of talking to a few Iranians a while back, two men and one women..At first they were embarassed to admit where they were from.....But after talking to them they were very vocal about their disdain for Ahmadinejad as are most Iranians.....
Maybe they were also telling you what you wanted to hear.
You're a dhimmi, afterall. In their world view, just barely human. But, a non-entity nonetheless. Their holy book permits them to freely LIE to you if it advances their religion.
By the way, you're past due on your jizyah (poll tax), living under implicit world-wide Sharia Law.
Practically every trouble spot in the world, is Muslim vs. [Fill in the blank].
Muslims vs.:
Catholic Christians
Protestant Christians
Orthodox Christians
Jews
Hindus
Buddists
Confucionists
Animists (Sudan)
They don't seem to actually be able to get along with ANYBODY, including each other.
Welcome to the New World Disorder.
[}:)]
I was told by a person I know that goats are getting expensive because Muslims drink goat blood. Let's keep the generalizations flowing. |
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iplaw
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2007, 02:31:43 pm » |
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Originally posted by Townsend
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Originally posted by Conan71
That's why asshat dictators keep an iron fist of intimidation hanging over the heads of their subjects.
Yup, we're at Homeland Security status "Yellow".
Are you "intimidated" by reasonable attempts to convey warnings about possible terrorist activity? If so, I suggest you leave your basement periodically. |
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Townsend
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2007, 02:59:53 pm » |
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Originally posted by iplaw
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Originally posted by Townsend
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Originally posted by Conan71
That's why asshat dictators keep an iron fist of intimidation hanging over the heads of their subjects.
Yup, we're at Homeland Security status "Yellow".
Are you "intimidated" by reasonable attempts to convey warnings about possible terrorist activity? If so, I suggest you leave your basement periodically.
Just giving another example of "iron fist of intimidation" |
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Breadburner
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2007, 03:07:05 pm » |
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Originally posted by Townsend
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Originally posted by iplaw
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Originally posted by Townsend
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Originally posted by Conan71
That's why asshat dictators keep an iron fist of intimidation hanging over the heads of their subjects.
Yup, we're at Homeland Security status "Yellow".
Are you "intimidated" by reasonable attempts to convey warnings about possible terrorist activity? If so, I suggest you leave your basement periodically.
Just giving another example of "iron fist of intimidation"
It was very poor at best.....Try again.... |
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