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« Reply #255 on: January 23, 2015, 01:28:19 pm »

To the ground far right. I'm sure a trained Officer who can kill you. Can surely shoot safely and miss you.

In my conceal carry class, the instructor said never to point a weapon in the direction of someone you don’t intend to shoot.  He went on to say: "Never fire the weapon at another person unless you are fully prepared to kill them.”

Officers are not taught to fire off stray rounds, that’s how innocent bystanders get dead.
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« Reply #256 on: January 23, 2015, 03:34:47 pm »


I bet he wouldn't have gotten shot if he would have laid on the ground and put his hands out....

How about we blame the dumb criminal, not the cop?
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« Reply #257 on: January 23, 2015, 03:49:33 pm »

I bet he wouldn't have gotten shot if he would have laid on the ground and put his hands out....

How about we blame the dumb criminal, not the cop?

Or hadn’t run in the first place.
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« Reply #258 on: January 23, 2015, 04:55:42 pm »

This new slow motion of the video does show the young man pick up the gun and aim backward toward the officer. He does not fire and starts to run away from the officer who starts firing. His first couple of shots do not appear to hit the individual but the third and final two do.

http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/WARNING-Graphic-content-Slow-motion-of-Muskogee-Police-video-of-officer-involved-shooting-28418002?vcid=28418002&freewheel=91468&sitesection=tulsa
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« Reply #259 on: January 23, 2015, 07:54:41 pm »

This new slow motion of the video does show the young man pick up the gun and aim backward toward the officer. He does not fire and starts to run away from the officer who starts firing. His first couple of shots do not appear to hit the individual but the third and final two do.

http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/WARNING-Graphic-content-Slow-motion-of-Muskogee-Police-video-of-officer-involved-shooting-28418002?vcid=28418002&freewheel=91468&sitesection=tulsa

Plain and simple, you point a gun at a cop, that cop is going to fire a full clip at you. It's the officers job to protect other citizens as well as himself. His job is that you are a threat to others, and he is to stop you even if he gives his life doing so. Period.
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« Reply #260 on: January 23, 2015, 08:07:02 pm »

I don't think this falls under misconduct. But I'm sure there won't be an outcry of rights being violated since the black man killed with his hands up was shot multiple times by a black officer.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2920141/Video-shows-man-shot-New-Jersey-police-raising-hands.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/21/police-video-shows-routine-traffic-stop-turn-deadly/22144795/

"The video speaks for itself that at no point was Jerame Reid a threat and he possessed no weapon on his person," Walter Hudson, chairman and founder of the civil rights group the National Awareness Alliance, said Wednesday. "He complied with the officer and the officer shot him."
The South Jersey Times reported this week that residents had filed seven municipal court complaints against Days since 2013 and two against Worley in that span for alleged abuses of power; all the complaints were dismissed.



"Hey Jerome, you reach for something, you gonna be f---ing dead. Keep your f---ing hands right there."

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?7&v=saQ8wW4DwkY[/youtube]


Officer Days eventually turns his attention to the dashboard camera, telling officers in the last recorded exchange, "Turn it off, everybody should be off."
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« Reply #261 on: January 23, 2015, 08:08:26 pm »

This new slow motion of the video does show the young man pick up the gun and aim backward toward the officer. He does not fire and starts to run away from the officer who starts firing. His first couple of shots do not appear to hit the individual but the third and final two do.

You only saw a gun when a cop later brought in front of the camera.  The exact same scenario was used by OHP in another shooting the week before, when you only see a gun after another trooper arrives and displays it for the camera.
Also, the audio is not in synchronization with the video, revealing some very poor edits.

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« Reply #262 on: January 23, 2015, 08:19:17 pm »

Vashta, there's a conspiracy that police activity will cause the sun to come up in the east tomorrow and Belichick and Brady fixed the game.
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« Reply #263 on: January 23, 2015, 08:44:59 pm »

Vashta, there's a conspiracy that police activity will cause the sun to come up in the east tomorrow and Belichick and Brady fixed the game.

Don't smear the good name of police by linking them to those two cheaters.
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« Reply #264 on: January 24, 2015, 01:26:35 pm »

When cops are to nice they die......
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« Reply #265 on: January 24, 2015, 02:22:33 pm »

And when they are arrogant Richards trained in Oklahoma, the fourth amendment doesn't exist.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/asset-seizures/index.html

https://desertsnow.com/
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« Reply #266 on: January 24, 2015, 05:26:23 pm »

And when they are arrogant Richards trained in Oklahoma, the fourth amendment doesn't exist.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/asset-seizures/index.html

https://desertsnow.com/



http://www.oklahomalegalgroup.com/oklahoma-criminal-defense/highway-interdictions-and-false-forfeiture

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/stop-and-seize/

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-da-halts-i-40-drug-stops-after-criticism/article/3864488
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« Reply #267 on: January 24, 2015, 06:16:25 pm »

Cop Shot by Cop From Another Force Who “Feared For His Safety”

Yonkers, NY– A Yonkers police officer is on medical leave after shooting and wounding an off duty officer from another precinct on Monday evening.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/suicidal-cop-shot-cop-force-feared-safety

This shooting comes exactly two weeks after an Albuquerque officer shot an undercover officer during a drug sting over $60 worth of meth.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/undercover-albuquerque-police-officer-shot-fellow-cop/



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« Reply #268 on: January 25, 2015, 01:34:54 am »


Thanks for the links. I know the original intent of the law was for back in the drug war days of the early 80's, but it seems that they have perverted it from the original scope. Bundled in with the Patriot Act probably. If they really want to seize money that may have been used in a drug operation without arresting anyone and get a ton of cash, why not take the drug dog into any bank and have them sniff around. (snarky sarcasm)
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« Reply #269 on: January 27, 2015, 10:12:51 am »

To the ground far right. I'm sure a trained Officer who can kill you. Can surely shoot safely and miss you.


"Warning shots" is a delusional Hollywood fantasy that we have been raised with in this country for some stupid reason!  It is right up there with shooting the gun out of a persons hand.  Not feasible.  As well as not possible.  Granted, there may be 3 or 4 people in the entire nation who could pull that off - but they aren't cops!  And they would be stupid to try it.

You should never point a gun you don't have intentions of shooting and should NEVER shoot at anything besides the actual target!!

As for trained officers....well, if one thing has become absolutely obvious over the last 50 or 100 years or so, officers generally are very poor shots.  We consistently hear stories about 15 or 20 or 50 shots fired, 3 or 4 of which actually hit the target.  And of the 4 that hit, most are superficial, or at least not stopping, killing shots!  Cops are very little better at hitting the target than the general population!  A lot of that has to do with the adrenaline rush of the situation - they end up 'spraying' the area - but mostly it is very poor fire control.






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