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« on: October 27, 2022, 08:11:38 am »

Does anyone know what Utica Square is construction on their SE corner?  I'm not talking about the new Bar Serra that just opened.

They just put up a construction fence surrounding the entire corner south of the post office. 
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2022, 09:26:46 am »

I hope it's a CVS!  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2022, 09:43:26 am »

I've heard one rumor that Olive Garden is relocating over there.  Please tell me it is something better than that
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2022, 09:55:24 am »

Wasn't there a rumor on TulsaNow a few years ago about a FreshMarket going in this spot?
Which seems weird.   The location at 81st & Yale is crickets on the occasions I go in.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2022, 11:27:49 am »

Itís Olive Gardenís new location.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2022, 11:35:54 am »

Olive Garden w.t.f?  People still eat at that place?  If the drive thru bank at 21st & Utica wasnít bad enough.  Why is Utica Sq building pad sites they should be building multi-story buildings.  Ugh this city can be so frustrating.,.
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2022, 11:51:22 am »

Utica Sq. definitely not capitalizing on their potential. Olive Garden and the bank... just unbelievable bland ideas.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2022, 12:44:57 pm »

Utica Sq. definitely not capitalizing on their potential. Olive Garden and the bank... just unbelievable bland ideas.

To be fair the bank on the corner is not under the Utica Square ownership. But Olive Garden, yeah that's just dumb. They really need to bring in a partner that can help them redevelop the center. It's such a huge wasted opportunity right now.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2022, 09:20:30 am »

https://tulsaok-energovweb.tylerhost.net/apps/selfservice#/permit/b4019251-07d4-449b-9e6e-9277d55ada20?tab=moreinfo

Not sure if we can share like this. But

IDP Name === Olive Garden at Utica Square
Previous Development Name
Describe Proposed Project === Redevelopment of existing parking area and ATM building to new Olive Garden site
Number of Plan sheets === 1
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2022, 10:38:03 am »

Utica Sq. definitely not capitalizing on their potential. Olive Garden and the bank... just unbelievable bland ideas.

I did see last week where they finally used some of the lawn space that used to be Pettys/Ms Jacksons for their music festival, even if only temporary.
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2022, 12:41:56 pm »

At least the current Olive Garden space can be put to better use? I really don't understand the reluctance to include apartments somewhere within the square. It's where we're heading (hopefully) with more mixed use developments in midtown.
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2022, 06:03:06 pm »

At least the current Olive Garden space can be put to better use? I really don't understand the reluctance to include apartments somewhere within the square. It's where we're heading (hopefully) with more mixed use developments in midtown.

Asking because it's not my "thing".  Would you want to live there above a business you didn't own?  I can kind of see living above a business I owned like the small business/apartment strip where I grew up.

https://goo.gl/maps/1cF5Zi16v5sBEjETA

The stores are different and I don't know if the business owners are living above.  I haven't been there for a L-O-N-G time.


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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2022, 09:31:37 am »

While I donít want to see Utica Square turn into Highland Park Village (all upscale retail/restaurants) I also donít want it to be like the Plaza in KC (mostly chain retail/restaurants).  There currently is a good mix of local and chains and I like how it operates like a mini-downtown for midtown with things like a post office, Walgreens, wine shop, banks, etc. I just want to see more density: for example the 21st & Utica corner should be a multi-story office building.  The H&P site at the NW corner could be a great place for dense residential development and a hotel.  The parking lots along 22nd Place could be residential with shops on the first floor.  There should be a Grocery store again to create a truly walkable neighborhood.
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2022, 08:26:32 pm »

I hope it's a CVS!  Grin

Verizon?
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2022, 08:34:48 pm »

At least the current Olive Garden space can be put to better use? I really don't understand the reluctance to include apartments somewhere within the square. It's where we're heading (hopefully) with more mixed use developments in midtown.

North of Charlotte, NC is a shopping area called Birkdale Village that is similar to Utica Square but also includes residential.   It is very nice.

https://birkdalevillage.com/about
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