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« Reply #105 on: August 16, 2023, 02:55:32 pm »

Anyone heard updates on this? Today they have all the entrances blocked off.. only a few City of Tulsa vehicles are parked. Hoping that means something is happening.

Wow, that would be big news.
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« Reply #106 on: August 16, 2023, 03:19:45 pm »

There are building permits for 220 E 2ND ST S  on the Tulsa permit portal
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« Reply #107 on: August 16, 2023, 04:47:36 pm »

There are building permits for 220 E 2ND ST S  on the Tulsa permit portal

The two permits that are actually issued are for $46 million and the others mention "The Annex". This really seems to be it.
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« Reply #108 on: August 16, 2023, 06:50:44 pm »

I was told by a PAC trustee that FC had met the deadline and the transaction had funded and closed. I don’t know why the assessor isn’t showing the transfer yet. I also don’t know why there hasn’t been media/an announcement. But it’s going forward.
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« Reply #109 on: August 17, 2023, 08:53:04 am »

That's freaking awesome. I'm so glad it's finally starting. There have been a lot of big projects downtown lately, but I feel like this is the biggest in a long while. 13 stories of residential AND a grocery store is a huge add. Not to mention the obvious reduction of our parking crater right in the heart of downtown.
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« Reply #110 on: August 17, 2023, 08:54:57 am »

FWIW, looks like the parking lot is back open today.. glad to hear the updates though! I'm weirdly sentimental about this project.. feels like this forum has been discussing it for years now Cheesy
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« Reply #111 on: August 17, 2023, 09:20:42 am »

FWIW, looks like the parking lot is back open today.. glad to hear the updates though! I'm weirdly sentimental about this project.. feels like this forum has been discussing it for years now Cheesy

Well the original announcement was in 2015, so...

Cars are definitely parked in the lots today so nothing official yet.  I have heard soon though.
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« Reply #112 on: August 17, 2023, 09:32:03 am »

Hmm, the IDP submittal on the city's portal says they aren't due for completion of the review until the 28th. They had to resubmit once. Hopefully they pass this time and can get permitted quickly.
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« Reply #113 on: August 17, 2023, 10:07:47 am »

Good to see this moving forward. Hopefully it gets built faster than it took to gestate. One was built in downtown shortly after I moved back and does a booming business. They also included smaller take out only versions of a local place Chompie's Deli. 

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« Reply #114 on: August 18, 2023, 07:31:51 am »

That's freaking awesome. I'm so glad it's finally starting. There have been a lot of big projects downtown lately, but I feel like this is the biggest in a long while. 13 stories of residential AND a grocery store is a huge add. Not to mention the obvious reduction of our parking crater right in the heart of downtown.

I'm looking forward to sauntering downtown and tellin' all the young 'uns "I remember when this was nothing but parking lots as far as the eye could see"  Grin
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« Reply #115 on: August 18, 2023, 10:37:11 am »

I'm looking forward to sauntering downtown and tellin' all the young 'uns "I remember when this was nothing but parking lots as far as the eye could see"  Grin

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« Reply #116 on: September 11, 2023, 07:58:41 am »

https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/business/as-pac-development-with-downtown-grocery-store-deadline-nears-uncertainty-abounds/article_9579c28e-4e6b-11ee-81f5-b7c352d4b55c.html#tracking-source=home-top-story

Not a confidence inspiring update.
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« Reply #117 on: September 11, 2023, 08:35:04 am »

I thought they closed already but this explains why title never transferred.

The big hang-up all along has been the ironclad requirement that an acceptable grocer sign a lease prior to closing. This was known to be an issue back more than 5 years ago when Reasors backed out (this was related to debt covenants that gave their lender vetos on new stores). So Oasis was supposed to have solved it, but apparently now AJ from Oasis is being shown to be sketchy.

I don’t know what they’ll do this week. The city may have to be flexible. Seems like FC is at their wits end.
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« Reply #118 on: September 11, 2023, 01:22:52 pm »

I thought they closed already but this explains why title never transferred.

The big hang-up all along has been the ironclad requirement that an acceptable grocer sign a lease prior to closing. This was known to be an issue back more than 5 years ago when Reasors backed out (this was related to debt covenants that gave their lender vetos on new stores). So Oasis was supposed to have solved it, but apparently now AJ from Oasis is being shown to be sketchy.

I don’t know what they’ll do this week. The city may have to be flexible. Seems like FC is at their wits end.

Yep I've heard the same thing, the grocery piece is critical.  Not sure if Oasis is sufficient to close.  Too bad it can't be a Trader Joe's.
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« Reply #119 on: September 11, 2023, 01:56:24 pm »

Ugh. He does look super shady. I can't believe that's what's going to stop this block from getting developed. It is important to get a grocer downtown, but after years of trying they need to just move on and make a deal work.
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