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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2018, 11:17:47 am »

I can see how people don't like the over use of that style, but it can look better than most buildings when done right. At its worst, it can be terrible, but these 2 above examples are not that.

Here are a couple faux Italian buildings that are awful and give the style a bad name:



We seem to be getting a significant selection of Italianate type buildings in midtown.  3 of those were just wrong, but the one with the swimming pool seemed about as authentic as anything else done in this country, given the realities of building for office, retail, hotel, etc, in the area...well, except for the pool..!   I got a feeling that a lot of what we look at and see as "Tuscan" from the old world is either incomplete - as they ran out of money to finish the building, or worn such that the outer stucco layer has come off, leaving the stones/bricks exposed the building is made from.

This design looks like it would fit in well enough and not be a detriment to the area, though...  Just my thoughts...

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2018, 11:33:01 am »


We seem to be getting a significant selection of Italianate type buildings in midtown.  3 of those were just wrong, but the one with the swimming pool seemed about as authentic as anything else done in this country, given the realities of building for office, retail, hotel, etc, in the area...well, except for the pool..!   I got a feeling that a lot of what we look at and see as "Tuscan" from the old world is either incomplete - as they ran out of money to finish the building, or worn such that the outer stucco layer has come off, leaving the stones/bricks exposed the building is made from.

This design looks like it would fit in well enough and not be a detriment to the area, though...  Just my thoughts...




I love the Mediterranean look when done well but you're right that one with the pool is pretty typical of when that look is attempted in the US. It is better than those others and better than a generic apartment complex, but certainly not a remarkable piece of architecture and I can see why many would dislike it.

This new building seems pretty well designed and will fit in with other new buildings. Not stunningly beautiful or remarkable, but very nice.
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2018, 01:47:48 pm »


I love the Mediterranean look when done well but you're right that one with the pool is pretty typical of when that look is attempted in the US. It is better than those others and better than a generic apartment complex, but certainly not a remarkable piece of architecture and I can see why many would dislike it.

This new building seems pretty well designed and will fit in with other new buildings. Not stunningly beautiful or remarkable, but very nice.

For better or worse it has become sort of a trademark of midtown architecture, which I assume ties back to Philbrook.  I honestly like the style and hope more of the infill around Utica Square looks similar.  Similar to the "white district" that formed around 35th & Peoria it can create a defining look for a particular area.
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2019, 10:12:38 am »

The BoA drive through next door is closing.
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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2019, 12:50:39 pm »

The BoA drive through next door is closing.

Is that part of this development?
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2019, 10:11:22 am »

Is that part of this development?

I don't know.  I was just notified of the closing. 
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2019, 01:12:34 pm »

The BoA drive through next door is closing.

I hope this doesn't lead to a great bank drive through crisis in Tulsa, they are already pretty hard to find.
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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2019, 09:26:07 pm »

This looks like it is topped out or close to it.  Nice infill and density in the Utica Square area.  Maybe they can replace the Wendy’s next.
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2019, 09:08:54 am »

This looks like it is topped out or close to it.  Nice infill and density in the Utica Square area.  Maybe they can replace the Wendy’s next.

I can't imagine Wendy's letting that location go. That place prints money at lunch time.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2019, 10:50:10 am »

I can't imagine Wendy's letting that location go. That place prints money at lunch time.

You're probably right, unless they could be on the ground floor of a larger project that would likely involve more medical office space next to St John. 

Maybe once Bumgarner is finished with this project they'll do something at 14th & Utica.  Such a prime location just sitting there for over a decade, it better be on par with Utica Place/Plaza when they finally build it out.
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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2019, 12:19:35 pm »

I can't imagine Wendy's letting that location go. That place prints money at lunch time.

A Wendy's executive takes a surprise visit to get dinner. He goes in and notices the line moves expeditiously. He orders and notices the employee is polite and takes his order with no issues as he orders a burger meal and frosty. They then make the meal quickly and even tell him "Thank you! Enjoy your meal!". Afterwords, he promptly fires everyone in the restaurant. "Excellent speedy service? An operational Frosty machine?? Treating customers with respect!?! That is NOT what customers expect of Wendys!"
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2019, 04:24:09 pm »

A Wendy's executive takes a surprise visit to get dinner. He goes in and notices the line moves expeditiously. He orders and notices the employee is polite and takes his order with no issues as he orders a burger meal and frosty. They then make the meal quickly and even tell him "Thank you! Enjoy your meal!". Afterwords, he promptly fires everyone in the restaurant. "Excellent speedy service? An operational Frosty machine?? Treating customers with respect!?! That is NOT what customers expect of Wendys!"

^This!!! Hahahaha
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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2019, 11:06:20 pm »

This looks like it is topped out or close to it.  Nice infill and density in the Utica Square area.  Maybe they can replace the Wendy’s next.

Anyone have pics to share?
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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2019, 12:57:31 pm »

A Wendy's executive takes a surprise visit to get dinner. He goes in and notices the line moves expeditiously. He orders and notices the employee is polite and takes his order with no issues as he orders a burger meal and frosty. They then make the meal quickly and even tell him "Thank you! Enjoy your meal!". Afterwords, he promptly fires everyone in the restaurant. "Excellent speedy service? An operational Frosty machine?? Treating customers with respect!?! That is NOT what customers expect of Wendys!"


True.

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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2019, 02:06:51 pm »


True.



And before I get sued by Wendy's, the last time I went there, the line moved relatively quick (There was no one in front or behind me), they were courteous and they only missed 1 thing from my order (which I only noticed when I was home so oh well). Truly a 5-star Wendy's experience!
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