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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2017, 10:52:07 pm »

The pumps are on 15th, the store is on Lewis.

And Reasor's tore down the gas station because they suck at it. They didn't build it in the first place.
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2017, 11:07:56 pm »

That style store could be pushed to the sidewalk with half the number of pumps and fewer parking spaces on a much smaller footprint and be a plus to an urban area.

If you could sell that to QT management, Iím sure there would be a long line of people waiting to give you a big sloppy kiss.
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2017, 07:23:52 am »

The pumps are on 15th, the store is on Lewis.

And Reasor's tore down the gas station because they suck at it. They didn't build it in the first place.

Considering their business relationship, it would have made sense for QT to simply take over Lil Reasors.  It was an appropriate size for a midtown gas station and the alternative was unused pavement, as it is now.  But QT has apparently decided they can't make money with fewer than 24 pumps and 6000 sq. ft.  It's just insane to me.  They probably also knew they were going to take over the entire corner across the street eventually.
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2017, 07:55:28 am »

If you could sell that to QT management, Iím sure there would be a long line of people waiting to give you a big sloppy kiss.

Ew.   Cool
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2017, 09:19:29 am »

Lil Reasors was an appropriate size for a midtown gas station

QT sees themselves as more of a convenience store / fast-food establishment..
Which makes the huge pump requirement a bit more baffling
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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2017, 11:18:11 am »

It was always my understanding QT uses petro as a low margin item to drive foot traffic to sell the high margin food & beverages.

QT would build a giant suburban Gen 3 store on Guthrie Green if they could buy the land and thought it would be a profitable location.  QT will modify its template suburban store design only if and when a city makes them do so.  Tulsa has not and appears unwilling/unable to offer any resistance to QT anywhere in Tulsa.
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2017, 12:12:12 pm »

It was always my understanding QT uses petro as a low margin item to drive foot traffic to sell the high margin food & beverages.

QT would build a giant suburban Gen 3 store on Guthrie Green if they could buy the land and thought it would be a profitable location.  QT will modify its template suburban store design only if and when a city makes them do so.  Tulsa has not and appears unwilling/unable to offer any resistance to QT anywhere in Tulsa.


Yeah, they have no interest in doing something like that unless the market absolutely demands it. In Atlanta, they had to make an urban version to get in to the trendy Midtown neighborhood: https://atlanta.curbed.com/2016/6/23/12010170/qt-quiktrip-peachtree-street-6th-midtown-atlanta

If Tulsa had standards like that to drive (limit) development standards, maybe QT would build there. I don't foresee that happening any time soon. We don't really have the ultra-high end walkable neighborhoods here where this would make sense. Maybe eventually if downtown increases its population by about 3,000, then it could have the kind of density that would warrant a QT urban store.

Who knows if this concept even worked well for QT. It probably did, but their margins are probably so high at other stores that there are probably plenty of lower hanging fruit out there where they can expand their market share without the sky high rent/real estate.
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2017, 04:18:26 pm »

QT sees themselves as more of a convenience store / fast-food establishment..
Which makes the huge pump requirement a bit more baffling

Being able to pull off a street i am already traveling on to buy gas is pretty convenient.

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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2017, 07:50:35 pm »

It was always my understanding QT uses petro as a low margin item to drive foot traffic to sell the high margin food & beverages.


This is their stated objective but I find it hard to believe when there have been times gas was selling for .20 cheaper in OKC with higher transportation costs (there is no refinery in the OKC metro I am aware of these days).  With the way QT plays their price changes, it is clear they are concerned with making a profit off of it.  I have no clue how many times the prices have changed since I moved away in mid March, but the price at our two stations here in Cimarron have remained the same on all grades for over five months.  Even with Harvey this past week, they remain the same.  
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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2017, 08:52:51 pm »

I have no clue how many times the prices have changed since I moved away in mid March, but the price at our two stations here in Cimarron have remained the same on all grades for over five months.  Even with Harvey this past week, they remain the same.  

The usual gas price game goes on.  Checking gasbuddy shows your price for regular in Cimarron at $2.49/gal for regular.  We recently had two price increases from $2.05 to $2.19 and then to $2.39 per gallon of regular.

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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2017, 09:10:18 pm »

The usual gas price game goes on.  Checking gasbuddy shows your price for regular in Cimarron at $2.49/gal for regular.  We recently had two price increases from $2.05 to $2.19 and then to $2.39 per gallon of regular.

They raised it from $1.93 the minute they heard their might be a hurricane.  Pre-gouging?

FWIW, a 15th & Lewis store might actually be a good thing if it werent a mega-store. 
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2017, 09:43:55 pm »

They raised it from $1.93 the minute they heard their might be a hurricane.  Pre-gouging?

I forgot the timing on that increase.

Costco was still $1.99 this afternoon.  (Thur 31 Aug)
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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2017, 09:29:19 pm »

I paid almost $3/gal today in texas with a $25 per vehicle cap. It took a few stops as I drove like 700 miles today.
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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2017, 01:04:17 pm »

I paid almost $3/gal today in texas with a $25 per vehicle cap. It took a few stops as I drove like 700 miles today.

At least you could find gas.  We were in Dallas over the weekend and maybe 10% of the gas stations even had gas.
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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2017, 02:16:00 pm »

At least you could find gas.  We were in Dallas over the weekend and maybe 10% of the gas stations even had gas.
I was in Bedford and had NO trouble finding gas.  All I needed.  And I paid $2.39, same as I paid here in Tulsa before i left.  Of course I saw the QT stations that had gas for $2.75 but didn't stop there.   
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