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« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2018, 09:15:10 am »

Thanks 2014.  

It would be public.   Much like our taxes going to bus and rail systems that you don't use.


And going back years before, and continuing in the years since to one degree or another.  It is not an isolated point - it is a continuum.


And exactly...


It's very similar to a John Green quote about paying taxes for schools.  Subsidizing public transit like rail and bus generally tends to help the lowest income strata of our society more - helps them get to those minimum wage jobs that we so love to create in this country and then claim we had done something... How about transitioning from creating more low paying jobs to making work worth more to get better paying jobs??  Now there is a truly unique and worthwhile goal!!   While private aviation support subsidizes people at the other end of that spectra...





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« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2018, 10:23:54 am »

Thanks 2014. 

It would be public.   Much like our taxes going to bus and rail systems that you don't use.

But just like fuel taxes which are supposed to help with road maintenance, there are specific fuel taxes on avgas and jet fuel which I believe are earmarked for general aviation funding which I assume includes airport maintenance and ATC at attended airports so users of the system aren't exactly getting a free ride on the backs of those who don't fly GA or commercial.
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« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2018, 12:56:54 pm »

But just like fuel taxes which are supposed to help with road maintenance, there are specific fuel taxes on avgas and jet fuel which I believe are earmarked for general aviation funding which I assume includes airport maintenance and ATC at attended airports so users of the system aren't exactly getting a free ride on the backs of those who don't fly GA or commercial.


Yes there are.  The whole point is that everyone gets to "subsidize" someone else in our world.  Everyone gets to pay some, everyone gets subsidized.  Some more than others...the poorest get the least, while the richest get the most, but that is just the reality.

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« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2018, 07:09:54 pm »

But just like fuel taxes which are supposed to help with road maintenance, there are specific fuel taxes on avgas and jet fuel which I believe are earmarked for general aviation funding which I assume includes airport maintenance and ATC at attended airports so users of the system aren't exactly getting a free ride on the backs of those who don't fly GA or commercial.

Landing fees are usually for large planes but some busy airports levy them on small planes too.  Ramp fees or minimum fuel purchases are often used by Fixed Base Operators (FBOs) to help pay the way.
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« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2018, 04:50:44 am »


While private aviation support subsidizes people at the other end of that spectra...


I would love to see you tell the students at Spartan that they are rich.   Maybe all the people at Tulsa Tech learning how to fly/work on planes are the rich ones?   Maybe the other 4 flight schools are the ones that are benefiting?

There are probably thousands of people who make their livings (or are working on improving their livings) out there.    Oh right, it doesn't provide direct benefit to you so it must be a bad idea.

Why do you hate education?    Is it because it gives your minimum wage workers the opportunity to better themselves?
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« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2018, 09:03:31 am »

I would love to see you tell the students at Spartan that they are rich.   Maybe all the people at Tulsa Tech learning how to fly/work on planes are the rich ones?   Maybe the other 4 flight schools are the ones that are benefiting?

There are probably thousands of people who make their livings (or are working on improving their livings) out there.    Oh right, it doesn't provide direct benefit to you so it must be a bad idea.

Why do you hate education?    Is it because it gives your minimum wage workers the opportunity to better themselves?



Nowhere did I say that any of them own and operate their own planes.  Nor did I imply it anywhere.  Or that they are rich.  And when they do operate for themselves, they too enjoy the subsidies that the richer owners get.  That is a great RWRE diversion technique though - sounds just like the Fake Fox News Playbook Manual training course!


As for education, well have you actually read any of my posts?   Or even read the little note at the bottom of every post I make?   I have NO minimum wage workers!  Never have had - never will.  Everyone I hire starts making $10 per hour until their "probation" period is done...which is really simple - show up, show interest, show the ability to learn, and use it - you pass!  Usually get to that point in less than 30 days....NEVER had one go past 45 days.  If it did, there would have been an obvious failure on my part to pick the person for the position.  Hasn't happened.  At the end of probation, next step is $15 an hour.  We aggressively go up from there based on performance, productivity, contribution to the cause, and ongoing process of the probationary conditions.  Because $15 an hour IS what a true minimum wage level would be had we not been subjected to the trials and tribulations of the last 35 - 40 years of the kind of "gutting" of the American Dream that we have experienced.   (1968 minimum wage 'peaked' in this country at what today's equivalent would be right at $15 an hour.)

We are better than that.


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Upon further reflection, I generally don't feel like I hire people to work 'for' me - I hire them to work with me.  Cutesy little catch phrase, but true.


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« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2018, 02:58:32 pm »



I would be curious to see how many minimum wage workers there really are in the area.  Even Braums starts at $9/hr (or so their signage says.)

If you are an adult making minimum wage, you have made extremely poor life choices or you have absolutely no ambition.   (Most likely a large combination of both.)
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« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2018, 03:35:17 pm »


I would be curious to see how many minimum wage workers there really are in the area.  Even Braums starts at $9/hr (or so their signage says.)

If you are an adult making minimum wage, you have made extremely poor life choices or you have absolutely no ambition.   (Most likely a large combination of both.)

That's a pretty damned condescending attitude.  How about disabled adults?  I could go on..
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