All Souls Moving Downtown - 6th/7th Frankfort/Kenosa

[cannon_fodder]

If there is new development in the area after the church is built:

How far would a bar need to be from the church?  

Is it just bars or do all establishments serving alcohol have to watch for distance from a church?

300'

It shall be unlawful for any mixed beverage establishment, beer and wine establishment or bottle club which has been licensed by the ABLE Commission and which has as its main purpose the selling or serving of alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, or package store, to be located within three hundred (300) feet of any public or private school or church property primarily and regularly used for worship services and religious activities

http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=479577
(that's the new law, but it is very similar to the old laws governing the same)

[RecycleMichael]

My office is one block to the east.

I would love to have a big church filled with people seven days a week as a neighbor.

[Townsend]

300'
http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=479577
(that's the new law, but it is very similar to the old laws governing the same)

Thanks.  If that is to the property, that is a large swath from that spot.

[sgrizzle]

Thanks.  If that is to the property, that is a large swath from that spot.

It's 50' just to cross the road.

[saintnicster]

Thanks.  If that is to the property, that is a large swath from that spot.

From the all the property lines, yes.  Though because of the already-existing low density, not much would be affected as of right now.

To the south(ish), the 300 is about 3/4ers the way to 8th street.  This might be a problem for The Broadway event center?
East goes to American Passport & ID Photo
West is about halfway through the Coliseum Apartments and the self storage building
North/northeast could be the biggest problem, with the dot landing right in the middle of the southmost sections of the old nordam site.  Though if that actually gets developed, who knows?

[Red Arrow]

I would love to have a big church filled with people seven days a week as a neighbor.

Not me.  Too many of the members are oblivious to other traffic on the way to get something to eat after being saved for the day.

[Red Arrow]

Did the concept of neighborhood church ever apply in the Tulsa area?

[Breadburner]

Did the concept of neighborhood church ever apply in the Tulsa area?

Yes...

[erfalf]

Did the concept of neighborhood church ever apply in the Tulsa area?

Didn't the parking crater on the south end of downtown use to be a "neighborhood. With single family homes, even a school?

[SXSW]

Didn't the parking crater on the south end of downtown use to be a "neighborhood. With single family homes, even a school?

Yes, you can still see some remnants around 9th & Boulder and 12th & Cheyenne.  It's the part of downtown that "in the future" has the best chance of being a true urban residential neighborhood again.  Blue Dome and Brady will be, and already are, more mixed-use neighborhoods.

[DowntownDan]

Yes, you can still see some remnants around 9th & Boulder and 12th & Cheyenne.  It's the part of downtown that "in the future" has the best chance of being a true urban residential neighborhood again.  Blue Dome and Brady will be, and already are, more mixed-use neighborhoods.

That would require convincing someone to sell those precious, precious parking lots.

[Tulsasaurus Rex]

Yes, you can still see some remnants around 9th & Boulder and 12th & Cheyenne.

As well as at the corner of 11th St. & 11th St. Which happens to be a pretty cool intersection, name as well.

[dbacksfan 2.0]

As well as at the corner of 11th St. & 11th St. Which happens to be a pretty cool intersection, name as well.

Just west of the resting place of the Spider ride from Bell's.

https://goo.gl/maps/PhYEMCWAgZC2

[BKDotCom]

As well as at the corner of 11th St. & 11th St. Which happens to be a pretty cool intersection, name as well.

Never noticed that.   You'd think that little stretch of 11th between the circle and.... 11th could be 10th or Elgin or something.

[BKDotCom]

It's still on

http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/all-souls-unitarian-church-reaffirms-decision-to-move-downtown/article_f6fe0e91-15b4-5311-ba31-87c3bd4c798b.html

(All Souls senior minister) said the church hopes to be in its new downtown facility by its 100th anniversary in 2021.