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« Reply #330 on: April 15, 2022, 10:04:36 am »

First parts of the recreational flume are starting to take shape. Photo from 4/14

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« Reply #331 on: April 15, 2022, 05:02:21 pm »

The civil engineering on this project is fascinating.  Glad to see them using the sandstone instead of the white rocks they used along the Crow Creek inlet
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« Reply #332 on: April 29, 2022, 12:52:25 pm »

So it looks like we're getting most of the bells and whistles after all... pretty proud of my company for putting up some of the cash for this. Smiley

https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/private-donors-pitch-in-7-2-million-to-push-pedestrian-bridge-construction-forward/article_0accc620-bc42-11ec-b8e2-f7eb2760aaf8.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=user-share&fbclid=IwAR26wvRN8J8sakbsmYQGneMl9jj9Y5Q6kqs5PMev88O7wyvTNvlXMk_F2sU
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« Reply #333 on: April 30, 2022, 02:09:11 pm »


I figured they'd eventually find a donor, glad to see Williams step up as usual to help add some of the needed items. I'm still baffled why shade is not a bigger priority of the city to include. The seating will be useless most of the year without shade structures. At least a big step forward to making the utility of the bridge better.
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« Reply #334 on: May 01, 2022, 12:56:39 pm »

I figured they'd eventually find a donor, glad to see Williams step up as usual to help add some of the needed items. I'm still baffled why shade is not a bigger priority of the city to include. The seating will be useless most of the year without shade structures. At least a big step forward to making the utility of the bridge better.

Yeah it seems like they could have done the shade thing instead of like the LEDs? I mean the LEDs will be cool and all, but Iíd rather have the shade structure. But it seems like they are just maybe working on more corporate donations for that partÖ I bet it will be added eventually.
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« Reply #335 on: May 01, 2022, 06:37:08 pm »

Yeah it seems like they could have done the shade thing instead of like the LEDs? I mean the LEDs will be cool and all, but Iíd rather have the shade structure. But it seems like they are just maybe working on more corporate donations for that partÖ I bet it will be added eventually.

I donít get the fascination with the shade structure.  You donít have shade structures over the rest of the trails why is it needed on the bridge? 
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« Reply #336 on: May 01, 2022, 07:02:34 pm »

I donít get the fascination with the shade structure.  You donít have shade structures over the rest of the trails why is it needed on the bridge? 

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« Reply #337 on: May 01, 2022, 07:25:54 pm »

I donít get the fascination with the shade structure.  You donít have shade structures over the rest of the trails why is it needed on the bridge?  

Back in the 80's I believe, the old bridge was great for watching 4th of July fireworks when they were using the old 11th street bridge to fire from. You could get there early, have shade, and if there was a breeze across the river or Zink Lake it made it a bit cooler.
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« Reply #338 on: May 01, 2022, 08:32:32 pm »

I donít get the fascination with the shade structure.  You donít have shade structures over the rest of the trails why is it needed on the bridge? 

It comes down to the uses/utility of the bridge. If you're going to put seating on the bridge, it needs shade. My irritations with the bridge originally was that if we want to tear down the old one for a "bigger, better" new bridge that it should at least have the same or more utility. Right now the bridge is really only going to be good for bike riders and probably joggers. We were sold on the idea that the bridge would have the ability to be utilized for more casual visitors as well. Especially for the Gathering Place users, there should be a significant amount of more casual users who are walking versus bike/running/exercise and those users would be spending more time on the structure. Without shade why would any casual user want to be on the bridge or gather on the bridge. The added amenities from Williams will help, but without shade the seating will be unusable most of the year.
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« Reply #339 on: May 01, 2022, 08:41:35 pm »

Without shade why would any casual user want to be on the bridge or gather on the bridge. The added amenities from Williams will help, but without shade the seating will be unusable most of the year.

I think really only from mid-May to mid-September.  But yes, we were sold on year-round usability.

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« Reply #340 on: May 02, 2022, 08:29:44 am »

It comes down to the uses/utility of the bridge. If you're going to put seating on the bridge, it needs shade. My irritations with the bridge originally was that if we want to tear down the old one for a "bigger, better" new bridge that it should at least have the same or more utility. Right now the bridge is really only going to be good for bike riders and probably joggers. We were sold on the idea that the bridge would have the ability to be utilized for more casual visitors as well. Especially for the Gathering Place users, there should be a significant amount of more casual users who are walking versus bike/running/exercise and those users would be spending more time on the structure. Without shade why would any casual user want to be on the bridge or gather on the bridge. The added amenities from Williams will help, but without shade the seating will be unusable most of the year.

I get your point, but "most of the year" seems a bit extreme.  It's maybe June-August where having no shade would be untenable for the vast majority of the time, and even then there are times when it isn't quite as hot, it's cloudy, etc., and also people don't just use it in the heat of the day... tons of people walk on the trails in the morning and in the evening when it could be used in the summer.


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« Reply #341 on: May 02, 2022, 09:43:29 am »

Shade solution:  Just provide bridge crossing umbrellas on each end. 
Install the umbrella app on your phone to rent the umbrella.
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« Reply #342 on: May 04, 2022, 12:21:30 am »

Shade solution:  Just provide bridge crossing umbrellas on each end. 
Install the umbrella app on your phone to rent the umbrella.


NOT acceptable. Will the City of Tulsa pay for the cell phones (or iPads) required for the apps?
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« Reply #343 on: May 04, 2022, 11:12:12 am »

I get your point, but "most of the year" seems a bit extreme.  It's maybe June-August where having no shade would be untenable for the vast majority of the time, and even then there are times when it isn't quite as hot, it's cloudy, etc., and also people don't just use it in the heat of the day... tons of people walk on the trails in the morning and in the evening when it could be used in the summer.




If the Gathering Place was open later I do think the bridge would have more utility. I think the lighting is actually a good thing because in the summer it makes it safer to use at night/early morning.

The bridge will primarily be used March - probably October and a handful of nice days during the colder months. So if you can't really use it during the middle of the day from mid-June to early September then you're losing the bridge's utility for a huge portion of the year.

When they picked the architect and bridge design I didn't think they'd ever add shading structures anyways. It doesn't fit the design aesthetic so it was more so a bait and switch on that particular amenity to get the other bridge torn down. Even if they were able to get the money for it a highly doubt any shading structures will ever be installed for aesthetic reasons.

I still wish this bridge was located at the northern entrance of the Gathering Place and was dedicated to bikes/runners and then kept the old bridge for passive users and just refurbish the decking, etc. as needed. 

I'm at least glad they are adding some seating, lights, etc. overall it is better to have all that then not. The bridge will still get plenty of use from active users anyways.
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« Reply #344 on: May 05, 2022, 06:00:18 am »

They should name it the Melanoma Bridge.  Grin
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