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« Reply #165 on: June 28, 2018, 10:02:22 am »

Or 3rd/4th. They also renovated the santa fe depot building at the corner of 1st and Elgin into a small office building as part of this project and that was originally supposed to be part of the hotel.

The original plans showed the large mostly-office building at 2nd and Elgin and a very large mega-building that was almost an entire city block (part office) and then the large parking garage. Each building was to have all ground-floor retail except for the hotel and then apartments and/or office space above. Even the garage was going to have retail along 1st and 2nd.

Looking at the rendering again, it looks like it will still be a large parking garage taking up about the same footprint, but will only be 4 levels rather than the 7 levels originally planned. So not only will the building take out a quarter of that, it will be a much shorter building so that's a drawback  (so maybe only 500-spot garage now). Must've been to expensive.

http://x.lnimg.com/attachments/AB8716BB-3952-469A-965E-A634B8E5900A.pdf

This is a better plan IMO.  You still have a parking garage but there is an activated retail corner at 1st & Greenwood (not sure about 2nd & Greenwood) and we get another office tower on top. 
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« Reply #166 on: June 29, 2018, 07:57:18 am »

This would be nice for the opposite end of the development.  As far as height, I don't really care about height.  I'd much prefer infill throughout downtown with 4-6 story buildings than a few towers between parking craters.  I know that's not feasible or popular, but it's what I'd prefer. 

The original plan excites me because of the interior corridors and retail space.  I'd love for it to be like a small open air mall, which are much preferable to the dying suburban indoor mall model. 
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« Reply #167 on: June 29, 2018, 09:46:52 am »

This would be nice for the opposite end of the development.  As far as height, I don't really care about height.  I'd much prefer infill throughout downtown with 4-6 story buildings than a few towers between parking craters.  I know that's not feasible or popular, but it's what I'd prefer.  

The original plan excites me because of the interior corridors and retail space.  I'd love for it to be like a small open air mall, which are much preferable to the dying suburban indoor mall model.  

From what I've heard Santa Fe Square was always envisioned as a three phase project.  The first phase is the Hotel Indigo and renovation of the old Frisco Depot at 1st & Elgin.  The second phase is the office portion and the last phase is the residential.  ARG, one of the apartment co-developers, is also developing The View by ONEOK Field (and built The Edge, Tribune Lofts, Renaissance, etc).

Another view of the office building at 2nd & Elgin courtesy of Selser Schaefer Architects.  The hotel looks different though so I'm not sure if this is the latest design or not..

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« Reply #168 on: June 29, 2018, 11:37:40 am »

I love the different architectural styles.  Looks more organic than a mega structure. 
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« Reply #169 on: June 29, 2018, 11:55:23 am »

From what I've heard Santa Fe Square was always envisioned as a three phase project.  The first phase is the Hotel Indigo and renovation of the old Frisco Depot at 1st & Elgin.  The second phase is the office portion and the last phase is the residential.  ARG, one of the apartment co-developers, is also developing The View by ONEOK Field (and built The Edge, Tribune Lofts, Renaissance, etc).

Another view of the office building at 2nd & Elgin courtesy of Selser Schaefer Architects.  The hotel looks different though so I'm not sure if this is the latest design or not..

The new building at 1st and Greenwood looks so much different than that original proposed style, that I doubt the "centerpiece" of the development will end up looking much like this rendering.

Seems like the norm for these developments is to make grand proposal and end up with a cheaper looking building that's at least better than a parking lot (Like the Ross group building next to OneOK). I love that they're turning the garage into much more of a building though. Big improvement there!
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