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« Reply #3960 on: May 09, 2019, 08:27:03 pm » |
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Didn't LBJ try that to pay for the war in Vietnam, causing hyper inflation in the early 70s? I think interest rates were nearly 20% when Nixon enacted wage and price controls. Imagine a Republican even proposing that now.
I realize this is going back a ways, but it is very pertinent today, since we are escalating toward war on several fronts once again. As a screen to divert attention from criminal activities. No. Nixon enacted W & P to stem the "massive inflation" we were seeing at the time of about 6%. As a diversion from his criminal activities - kinda like what we are seeing today. And as one would expect, this created the real inflation problem that came about promptly after. None of the 3 following (Ford, Carter, Reagan) did anything that helped until the economy "fixed" itself in the later 80's. Engineers understand the concept of impulse function - wage and price controls are one HUGE impulse function! Creates oscillation for a long time...on top of the already oscillatory nature of the economy. The debt history site shows that there really wasn't much change in debt during this entire time - from 1950 to 1970 there was "only" a 40% increase in the debt. From 1970 to 1990, there was an 860% skyrocketing out of control increase in debt. Big difference, vast majority from the Reagan times. https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htmIt was also Nixon's war from the 1968 election on - for the next 7 years! It was LBJ's war for less than half that time - escalation really started in 1965-1966..about 3 years. (But LBJ's bullsh$t approach cost us 16,000+ killed in just that one year - 1968!) If you read the Tulsa World or Tribune, you got to read the casualty lists every day. There were always a lot of names. Way too many... But I divest - back to inflation. This link gets it reasonably close but doesn't tell the whole story - like how the inflation went from 14% in late 1980 to 6% in early 1981. (It didn't. Note the discrepancy of the text and the graphs on second link.) People blame Carter and give Reagan credit, but what really happened is they way inflation was calculated was changed. If the old way have been used in 1981 it would have been closer to the 10% range. Very much a Kobayashi Maru moment....if you don't like the results, change the rules in mid-game. https://inflationdata.com/articles/inflation-cpi-consumer-price-index-1970-1979/https://inflationdata.com/articles/inflation-cpi-consumer-price-index-1980-1989/Vietnam war info. https://www.militaryfactory.com/vietnam/casualties.asp
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #3961 on: May 13, 2019, 07:03:13 pm » |
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@realDonaldTrump --
Democrat Rep. Tlaib is being slammed for her horrible and highly insensitive statement on the Holocaust. She obviously has tremendous hatred of Israel and the Jewish people. Can you imagine what would happen if I ever said what she said, and says? 7:09 AM - 13 May 2019
Real world -- https://thinkprogress.org/republicans-smear-rashida-tlaib-comments-israel-palestine-one-state-holocaust-9cdc5acf126c/
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #3962 on: May 21, 2019, 11:50:24 pm » |
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Didn't LBJ try that to pay for the war in Vietnam, causing hyper inflation in the early 70s?
Trump suddenly reverses course on Iran, says there is ‘no indication’ of threatshttps://thinkprogress.org/trump-says-no-indication-of-threat-from-iran-2084505cdbdb/And were surprised? This is how children behave (or at least one that can toy with the lives of 120,000 American troops).
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #3964 on: May 27, 2019, 06:12:59 pm » |
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Ever notice how Trump NEVER goes to Arlington Cemetery for a Memorial Day ceremony?? Draft-dodging 3 of 3 so far. At least he is consistent, if low-life behaviour is what one aspires to. And when questioned about it by Chris Wallace last year for 2017, LIED about it saying he did - when he was actually in Vietnam. (This year he is in Japan, probably trying to alienate another good ally.)
And how the extremist right excoriated Obama for missing just one of 8...
The hypocrisy is literally breath taking!
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #3965 on: May 30, 2019, 09:16:51 am » |
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So, the man charged with preserving and protecting the Constitution this morning inferred he doesn't really know it. When asked about impeachment, he made a comment like (paraphrasing) "I can't see how the courts would allow it".....
pancakes?
The courts have nothing to do with impeachment and would offer no relief on it.
Wow.
Edit: another wow....so double yoo tee eff gets changed to pancakes in this forum? Oy.
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Libertarianism is a system of beliefs for people who think adolescence is the epitome of human achievement.
Global warming isn't real because it was cold today. Also great news: world famine is over because I just ate - Stephen Colbert.
Somebody find Guido an ambulance to chase...
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« Reply #3966 on: May 30, 2019, 12:13:02 pm » |
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So, the man charged with preserving and protecting the Constitution this morning inferred he doesn't really know it. When asked about impeachment, he made a comment like (paraphrasing) "I can't see how the courts would allow it".....
The constitution is like Jesus. Everyone has their own version. That's why there is the Supreme Court and James Bakker
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« Reply #3967 on: May 30, 2019, 06:44:16 pm » |
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So, the man charged with preserving and protecting the Constitution this morning inferred he doesn't really know it. When asked about impeachment, he made a comment like (paraphrasing) "I can't see how the courts would allow it".....
The leader of the free world is as bright as a small soap dish. "I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected" https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1134066371510378501
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« Reply #3968 on: May 30, 2019, 09:13:50 pm » |
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Hey, Minions - this is what your 'good buddy' Trump thinks are great leaders. And why he feels that way. Let me try the W T F thing... https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-koreas-kim-jong-un-230019893.html
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #3969 on: May 31, 2019, 08:45:02 am » |
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Another day, another lie....just one of so many thousands.
Trump insisted that he's been tough on Russia and that Moscow would have preferred Clinton as president. But that's not what Russian President Vladimir Putin has said. When asked last year in Helsinki whether he wanted Trump to become president, Putin replied: "Yes, I did."
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #3972 on: June 03, 2019, 04:26:32 pm » |
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #3973 on: June 21, 2019, 10:48:26 pm » |
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Trump tweets bizarre video suggesting he could be president '4EVA' The commander-in-chief turned troller-in-chief Friday, tweeting out a video sure to send shivers down the spines of his biggest critics.https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-tweets-bizarre-video-declaring-himself-president-4eva
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« Reply #3974 on: July 25, 2019, 08:47:33 pm » |
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Trump orders executions to mock Biden The Justice Department's announcement Thursday that it would resume capital punishment came two days after Biden proposed a termination of the federal death penalty.
"Since 1973, over 160 individuals in this country have been sentenced to death and were later exonerated," Biden wrote. "Because we can’t ensure that we get these cases right every time, we must eliminate the death penalty."https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-doj-plans-execute-inmates-eligible-federal-death-penalty-under-n1034641
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