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President Trump- The Implications

Started by Conan71, November 09, 2016, 10:24:31 AM

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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Ed W on May 09, 2018, 05:23:03 PM
I don't understand why this agreement was dropped, other than Trump's circular logic that it's a bad deal because it's a bad deal. Has he offered any reasons, any facts at all?

Iran would have had unrestricted nuclear development capability in 2030. Trump has given them that now. How is that better?


Obviously to a sane, thinking person, it is not.  But that is also not what we are experiencing here.

I work with a guy who is Marine reserve.  He is typical gung-ho with a double dose of caffeine!  There seems to be a difference now from the Marine friends and relatives I have that is not an improvement - the overall attitude is even more aggressive and there is the overtly expressed desire to 'hurry up' and let's get the war started - soon!   He spent a few weeks of special training in Korea about year ago and came back amped up even more.  To all appearances, he actually believes that we can take care of N Korea, Iran, and finish up Afghanistan in just a few months without getting our nose bloodied.  That is stupid, but it is also something that I don't really have words for or know what to think about.  It is NOT a good thing!

He has a couple brothers who are active duty and have had combat deployments (1 Marine, 1 Army) - they have killed people - and they are not quite so 'enthusiastic'.   He sees that as a sign of weakness in his brothers...I think he is suffering from a delusion or two (little brother syndrome gone crazy??) ...his one deployment was in a rear area (Kuwait) in charge of shipping beans and bullets.  

Granddaughter is getting the same amped-up hype in preparation for deployment late this year or early next year.

Trump is bound and determined to get his war!

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Awesome to see the return of those three American hostages from North Korea tonight, looking healthy and beaming with joy to be home. Still, can't help to feel sad for the Wambier family. They never got that homecoming the families of these men will have.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Ed W

Quote from: Conan71 on May 09, 2018, 05:45:52 PM
It was always a bad deal.  I can't offer specifics, it just was.

That's Trump's argument too, but we should expect more from the CinC. Facts and details matter. Can anyone cite an article that backs him?
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Hoss

Quote from: Ed W on May 10, 2018, 05:45:44 AM
That's Trump's argument too, but we should expect more from the CinC. Facts and details matter. Can anyone cite an article that backs him?

I believe C was being facetious in his response.  :)

TeeDub

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Quote from: Ed W on May 09, 2018, 05:23:03 PM

Iran would have had unrestricted nuclear development capability in 2030. Trump has given them that now. How is that better?

It is my understanding that they (Iran) are trying to keep the deal in place with Europe.   That would mean that they have to honor the existing deal and potentially now would have to offer more concessions to get the US back to the table.

Ed W

Quote from: Hoss on May 10, 2018, 07:45:23 AM
I believe C was being facetious in his response.  :)

I'm not at my best at 5AM.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on May 09, 2018, 11:35:29 PM




Probably the best we are likely to get...even though she is a criminal under US law and a war criminal under international law.

Shame she can't answer a simple yes/no question.


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

heironymouspasparagus

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

TeeDub


Yup.   No police brutality before Trump...  What a turn around.

swake

Quote from: TeeDub on May 11, 2018, 01:37:25 PM
Yup.   No police brutality before Trump...  What a turn around.

Certainly there was, but this administration pointedly doesn't give a crap about it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/04/jeff-sessions-blind-eye/521946/


heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: TeeDub on May 11, 2018, 01:37:25 PM
Yup.   No police brutality before Trump...  What a turn around.


He encourages it.   Or did you miss all his townhalls and campaign speeches...?? 

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on May 11, 2018, 04:46:55 PM

He encourages it.   Or did you miss all his townhalls and campaign speeches...?? 




There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me
Get him up against the wall
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint!
And another with spots!
If I had my way
I'd have all of you shot!
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum