President Trump- The Implications

[heironymouspasparagus]

While not an accusation of rape and such, the Gennifer Flowers thing was already out there. So in 92 they were already trying to tamp down indications that Clinton had a "problem" when it came to women and exerting power.

And I believe RWRE must mean all the Women Bill dingled around with. At least that's what Hillary called it back in the day.

The RWRE projection is that Billy Bob was just going around doing his thing - and much of the time he may well have been.  But their life probably had more of an audience participation approach - 3 or 4 or more - every 14 year old boy's dream.  Isn't it breadburner??

And it has been shown from several directions - outside of the Fake Fox News World - that each and every "complainant" was at least initially consensual/agreeable.  Well, until her husband found out...

[Ed W]

This is a fine examle of "what-about-ism" - a means of distracting attention away from the original topic, in this case, Mr. Trumps numerous failings. Clinton's travails, although interesting, have no bearing on our present descent into chaos.

[swake]

While not an accusation of rape and such, the Gennifer Flowers thing was already out there. So in 92 they were already trying to tamp down indications that Clinton had a "problem" when it came to women and exerting power.

And I believe RWRE must mean all the Women Bill dingled around with. At least that's what Hillary called it back in the day.

You seriously want to equate the election of Clinton in 1992 when he was accused of having an affair with the election of Trump after being accused by something like 20 women of variously being a peeping tom (which he admitted to on tape), some of whom were as young as 14, sexual harassment, sexual assault (which he ALSO admitted to on tape) and rape going back 30 years.

The right wing has lost their fracking minds. Conservatism is dead, replaced by no morals and fact free Trumpism.

[heironymouspasparagus]

RWRE?  ok I had to Google that one.  

And how timely - here is an example of LWRE hard at work! 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/16/dana-loesch-forced-to-move-due-to-repeated-threats-from-gun-control-advocates.amp.html


Ignorance and stupidstition is not just limited to the extreme right - the extreme left has it's fair share, too!  Their hypocrisy is highlighted by their alleged anguish and gnashing of teeth over the so-called level of violence in this country due to guns!  While making death threats significant enough to require police protection and forcing this woman to move.   One of those mouth-breathers says he is going to 'rape her to death'.... Same 'class act' as the extreme right - all of it low.

[Townsend]

Will put you down as an "Iran hardliners" supporter.

That's what a good hardcore trumper would do

[erfalf]

This is a fine examle of "what-about-ism" - a means of distracting attention away from the original topic, in this case, Mr. Trumps numerous failings. Clinton's travails, although interesting, have no bearing on our present descent into chaos.

It was brought up that the two weren't the same. Correction was made. Now it doesn't matter.

Clinton (Bill) was not viewed as a candidate that was pure as the wind driven snow. He had his issues prior to be elected. That was the point. I was making no comparison as to the magnitude or significance of each. Just that they both had issues.

[guido911]

But Russia....

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton's charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

[erfalf]

Would be truly comical after all this, if Clinton was the first one indicted.

[swake]

But Russia....


http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

If it turns out she did something dirty here, prosecute her.

[TulsaMoon]

The right wing has lost their fracking minds. Conservatism is dead, replaced by no morals and fact free Trumpism.

Please don't lump all of us Conservatives into one barrel, many / most still have morals and a brain. Many do not agree with Trump and especially his words. I am sure the same can be said for you and the Liberal agenda, some you agree with and some you don't. I don't consider you a complete fool for being left of center, please don't think I am because I lean to the right.

[guido911]

If it turns out she did something dirty here, prosecute her.

Wow. What a genius idea. Of course the tone is a little different than this gem:

He's happy with the Tiny Hands, Snowflake Con Man, Pedophilic Nazi lover and Russia colluder, but she's awful. Things that make you go Hmmmm.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Please don't lump all of us Conservatives into one barrel, many / most still have morals and a brain. Many do not agree with Trump and especially his words. I am sure the same can be said for you and the Liberal agenda, some you agree with and some you don't. I don't consider you a complete fool for being left of center, please don't think I am because I lean to the right.

If Conservatives don't want to be lumped into that particular barrel, why aren't they doing something?  Only one who has really made ANY kind of effort so far is John McCain, and he obviously wants to bring Trump down before he kicks off.   What about the rest of them??

As the RWRE is so quick to say about Muslims - why aren't the good Muslims condemning the bad?    Well, the good Muslims are, and have been for years.  But good conservatives are literally doing nothing - not even condemning.  As you can see around here - guido and erfalf both refuse to condemn any of the perversions or criminal actions from before the election, let alone all the lies and distortions and probably criminal activity of the election and beyond.  And yet, they do still go on about Hillary....  

Being neither conservative nor liberal, can't answer for either extreme, but it is literally comparing apples to orange.  Mildly flawed versus sociopathetic psychopath.  


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politics/john-mccain-trump-spurious-nationalism/index.html


For the intellectually lazy who won't bother to look into it, here is one significant paragraph of his speech....

"To fear the world we have organized and led for three-quarters of a century, to abandon the ideals we have advanced around the globe, to refuse the obligations of international leadership and our duty to remain 'the last best hope of earth' for the sake of some half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems is as unpatriotic as an attachment to any other tired dogma of the past that Americans consigned to the ash heap of history."

[heironymouspasparagus]

And now, Trump is "warning" McCain....  Lol...what a dipstick.   McCain replied that he has faced tougher foes....


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-issues-warning-mccain-senators-tough-speech-150027438--politics.html

[guido911]

[Hoss]

So after being shamed to call one of the service members that was killed in Niger recently (remember how he tried to say his predecessor didn't do it or did it less?) it seems he probably shouldn't have called at all.

https://amp.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

I'm going to guess that the two or three posters on here who are so pro-military in here (don't worry you know exactly who you are) are going to speak out against this?  Or will it be crickets?