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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2016, 11:59:36 am »

I'm obviously not a tech mindset. What do you think of McAfee's statement that, given a week and some help, he could break into the I-phone?

He's now admitted to lying "to 'get a s**tload of public attention'"
http://www.dailydot.com/politics/john-mcafee-lied-iphone-apple-fbi/
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2016, 12:19:04 pm »

I thought it was long ago established that McAfee isn't exactly stable.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2016, 01:37:35 pm »

I thought it was long ago established that McAfee isn't exactly stable.

McAfee or their software?
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2016, 01:55:48 pm »

The man.

This is the first image that comes up when you Google his name. Hit #1.



http://www.businessinsider.com/the-insane-life-of-john-mcafee-2015-7

http://gizmodo.com/heres-crazy-person-john-mcafee-in-another-bizarre-yout-1219244427

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McAfee#In_popular_culture
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2016, 03:08:07 pm »

Well I guess that explains why their software works so erratically...........
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2016, 03:48:10 pm »

Well I guess that explains why their software works so erratically...........

He hasn't been involved with the company in a very long time.

McAfee the software often seems like malware itself to me.
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2016, 09:06:12 pm »

Polk County (Florida) Sheriff Grady Judd has already passed judgment on Apple's stance.

"I can tell you, the first time we do have trouble getting into a cell phone, we're going to seek a court order from Apple," he said. "And when they deny us, I'm going to go lock the CEO of Apple up. I'll lock the rascal up."

He preaches from pulpits in uniform. When once asked why his officers had shot at a suspect 110 times, hitting him 68 times, he explained that it was "all the ammunition they had."


http://www.cnet.com/news/florida-sheriff-says-hell-lock-rascal-tim-cook-in-jail/











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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2016, 12:02:55 am »


The Company Helping Unlock the San Bernardino iPhone Has a Long History of Selling Gear to US Police


http://gizmodo.com/the-company-helping-unlock-the-san-bernardino-iphone-ha-1766641607

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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2016, 06:49:41 am »

Looks like they were successful in cracking the phone without Apple's help.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/03/28/apple-justice-department-farook/82354040/
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2016, 09:39:49 am »

Looks like they were successful in cracking the phone without Apple's help.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/03/28/apple-justice-department-farook/82354040/

That's what the FBI said a few hours before they were to go into court and explain to a judge how there was no other way...then its "Oh, we didnt need you after all."

For years, Apple has been complying with sealed orders to cooperate with the courts over seized iPhones, but this time the feds had the word "terrorism" to throw around and they decided to try this one in the court of public opinion instead (where they lost).

But now that the FBI has "discovered" a vulnerability potentially affecting the security of millions of Americans, will they uphold any obligation to disclose the vulnerability to the vendor (Apple) for the purpose of closing the hole and keeping those Americans safe?

Building up a huge stockpile of undisclosed vulnerabilities while leaving the Internet vulnerable and the American people unprotected would not be in our national security interest. (the Vulnerabilities Equities Process)
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/03/feds-mum-if-they-will-disclose-how-fbi-got-data-from-seized-iphone/

Or will they just be hypocrites?  Not too long ago there was a hacker working for a security firm who discovered a security flaw with AT&T, but when he told the media instead of quietly informing AT&T, he was sentenced to 41 months in prison for violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA).

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2143180/atandt-hacker-weev-released-from-prison-after-appeals-court-overturns-conviction.html
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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2016, 10:51:40 am »

The ethics and integrity complications are staggering.

Of course the government isn't going to help Apple. There is no reciprocal agreement. No quid pro quo. The feds feel they are on a mission to protect our safety from those that would rob us of our freedoms. If they have to put us in harm's way in the process, well, that's just the cost of freedom. Apple doesn't trust them, we don't trust them either, but we should be more skeptical of Apple's motives as well. They lied to us too.

Its too bad this all became public knowledge. Now people realize they were lied to by all the parties. There is no safe communication no matter what Apple says, and there is no obligation for the government to share their intel. The public be damned.

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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2016, 06:31:38 pm »


Looks like they were successful in cracking the phone without Apple's help.



So were they lying then or are they lying now?

There are thousands of "just one phone"s all over the country that police are anxious to rummage thru.


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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2016, 09:14:21 am »


So were they lying then or are they lying now?

There are thousands of "just one phone"s all over the country that police are anxious to rummage thru.






Yes.  They were lying than and they are lying now.


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« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2016, 08:12:48 am »

Why isn't anyone in the press or among our more intelligent humans, questioning whether the feds have actually broken the code for these phones? The underlying principles of national security, CIA, FBI, whomever, is to offer misleading, misinformation. Truth is "out there" but only a small group actually know whether they got into that phone.

That uncertainty works very well for them both legally and in the real world.
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« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2016, 12:57:58 pm »



Yes.  They were lying than and they are lying now.




Something that always stood out about the fed's "only one phone" terrorism argument:


14 people were killed and 22 were seriously injured when two San Bernardino County Health Department employees attacked co-workers.

14 people were killed and 20 were seriously injured when an Edmond Oklahoma postal employee attacked co-workers.


One was "workplace violence," the other was "terrorism."  One was a county office, the other was a federal facility full of federal employees.
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