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« Reply #270 on: August 20, 2016, 03:13:49 pm »

I thought that the Tulsa campuses for OU and OSU were barred from offering undergraduate courses because of protectionism for TCC.

Rules can be changed.
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« Reply #271 on: August 20, 2016, 10:25:49 pm »

They canít as long as the board of regents keeps screwing Tulsa to the benefit of Stillwater and Norman.
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« Reply #272 on: August 20, 2016, 11:31:36 pm »

They canít as long as the board of regents keeps screwing Tulsa to the benefit of Stillwater and Norman.

You mean like screwing the buying public in favor of Jarboe and Central?  Wink
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« Reply #273 on: August 21, 2016, 08:34:15 pm »

You mean like screwing the buying public in favor of Jarboe and Central?  Wink

Good one!

Exactly!
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« Reply #274 on: August 22, 2016, 06:54:44 am »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the rules not allowing 4 years programs at OSU/OU had more to do with protecting Tulsa's investments, not the states. In other words, protecting TCC.
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« Reply #275 on: August 22, 2016, 07:22:29 am »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the rules not allowing 4 years programs at OSU/OU had more to do with protecting Tulsa's investments, not the states. In other words, protecting TCC.

It's TCC and Langston that are being protected. And my understanding is that OU/OSU don't fight the rules because it protects against student drain from the Norman and Stillwater campuses.
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« Reply #276 on: August 22, 2016, 09:39:22 am »

Thread drift! Anyone know what statute or rule "protects" TCC from competition in the County? I understand SB 1426 set up OSU-Tulsa and functionally split up the UCAT effort, but it does not mention TCC directly. Is there another state statute that applies?

Put otherwise, what legally stops OSU Tulsa or OU Tulsa from offering first and second year classes?
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« Reply #277 on: August 23, 2016, 07:13:11 pm »

Thread drift! Anyone know what statute or rule "protects" TCC from competition in the County? I understand SB 1426 set up OSU-Tulsa and functionally split up the UCAT effort, but it does not mention TCC directly. Is there another state statute that applies?

Put otherwise, what legally stops OSU Tulsa or OU Tulsa from offering first and second year classes?

I believe it is a statewide community college act that keeps state-funded 4 yr institutions from directly competing in cities that have a community college.
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« Reply #278 on: August 23, 2016, 07:32:19 pm »

I believe it is a statewide community college act that keeps state-funded 4 yr institutions from directly competing in cities that have a community college.

There's another law to protect 3rd and 4th year classes at Langston as well.
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« Reply #279 on: August 23, 2016, 07:58:56 pm »

I believe it is a statewide community college act that keeps state-funded 4 yr institutions from directly competing in cities that have a community college.

 I've been harping about this for 10+ years on this forum and nothing has changed.  Tulsa keeps slipping further behind largely in part to not having a major public research university due to stupid provincial state laws. 

Mods feel free to move this discussion to a new thread.
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« Reply #280 on: August 24, 2016, 07:28:07 am »

I dont have time ti find the actual law, but it would be somewhere towards the end of this Title:
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/Index.asp?ftdb=STOKST70&level=1

I'd be interested to see what the law actually says, or if this is a long standing myth, policy, understanding, edict, agreement...whatever.
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« Reply #281 on: August 24, 2016, 03:12:49 pm »

I've been harping about this for 10+ years on this forum and nothing has changed.  Tulsa keeps slipping further behind largely in part to not having a major public research university due to stupid provincial state laws. 

Mods feel free to move this discussion to a new thread.

Yep.
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« Reply #282 on: August 24, 2016, 03:47:07 pm »

What about Northern Oklahoma Community College?

http://www.noc.edu/stillwater
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« Reply #283 on: August 24, 2016, 04:03:01 pm »

Thread drift! Anyone know what statute or rule "protects" TCC from competition in the County? I understand SB 1426 set up OSU-Tulsa and functionally split up the UCAT effort, but it does not mention TCC directly. Is there another state statute that applies?

Put otherwise, what legally stops OSU Tulsa or OU Tulsa from offering first and second year classes?

I dont have time ti find the actual law, but it would be somewhere towards the end of this Title:
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/Index.asp?ftdb=STOKST70&level=1

I'd be interested to see what the law actually says, or if this is a long standing myth, policy, understanding, edict, agreement...whatever.
Got these from that link Smiley

http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=104059 TCC
http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=104061 Langston
http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=104062 Northeastern State

"Undergraduate degree programs offered through Oklahoma State University/Tulsa shall not duplicate those undergraduate degree programs offered by {XXX} ... as determined by the Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education."
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« Reply #284 on: January 04, 2017, 04:18:45 pm »

The last time I was in that Macyís, it looked like they had stopped restocking the shelves. 

To survive, Promenade will have to look to things other than retail - the gym was a good start.

I still donít get putting in a grocery store at Utica Sq. in the same location it just forced out a local grocery store that had a loyal following.  Low margin groceries in a high rent center just donít make sense to me.  Sprouts, Whole Foods, and Trader Joes located within a few miles of Utica Sq. only make it a worse idea.


Macy's will close by the end of the year.  Any ideas on what should replace it at Promenade?

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/retail/macy-s-at-tulsa-promenade-mall-is-closing/article_633e4cdb-92b9-50fe-9240-1397e2f336c9.html
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