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« Reply #105 on: February 09, 2016, 08:32:10 am »

Several reasons the patch-holder lifestyle never appealed to me:

Why ride around looking for conflict?
Why would I give the title to my hard-earned motorcycle to a gang of criminals?
Meth is hard on the teeth, family, and well- I just didn’t have 20 years of my life to devote to it.
Riding like an a**hole at high speeds through traffic just isn’t my thing.
Being told by someone else when and how to ride at high speeds through traffic really never appealed to me.



You solid individualist, you!!


Used to be a bike shop at 11th and Utica called T-Town Motorcycles that was the clubhouse for local 1%ers.   Was invited to get the bike worked on a time or two - seemed to be more an interview process - but since Myers-Duren was right around the corner, I declined.  Didn't see any of the point of all that's on your list.

I did get one of their t-shirts, though, 'cause I liked the design on the front.  Probably still have it around somewhere....bet it won't fit now!


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« Reply #106 on: February 09, 2016, 07:29:35 pm »

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They spin all encounters or statements and lie to meet whatever goals they want. Never trust them to be truthful. If the OL starts intimidation tactics by asking, “Who the fu@k are you guys?” or “Who gave you permission to wear those colors” etc. you need to refer them to your President or Regional Director. They only fight if they outnumber you or have no chance of losing a fight.”[/i]

They are such hypocrites.

You know its a different world now when the Hells Angels are out-thugged by a cop gang.

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« Reply #107 on: February 12, 2016, 02:06:23 pm »


Used to be a bike shop at 11th and Utica called T-Town Motorcycles
I did get one of their t-shirts, though, 'cause I liked the design on the front.  Probably still have it around somewhere....bet it won't fit now!



If you ever find it, please post a picture of the art.  Blast from the past.
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« Reply #108 on: February 15, 2016, 09:31:38 am »


If you ever find it, please post a picture of the art.  Blast from the past.


Here is the "flavor", but on a tshirt in darker colors.


http://www.rudedogleather.com/embroidered_patches/skull_patches/batwing.html


Will look around for the shirt....

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« Reply #109 on: February 20, 2016, 06:51:39 pm »

There was another Iron Order Motorcycle Club involved shooting last night, at the gas pumps of the Kickapoo Convenience Store near Harrah, Oklahoma. Harrah is about 25 miles east of Oklahoma City. The pumps are about a hundred yards from the Kickapoo Casino Harrah.

Shootings involving the Iron Order are becoming increasingly frequent. Three weeks ago, an Iron Order member and Colorado prison guard named Derrick “Kong” Duran murdered one member of the Mongols Motorcycle Club and seriously wounded another at the climax of an altercation at the Colorado Motorcycle Exposition in Denver. Duran, of Longmont, Colorado, is the vice-president of the Firestone, Colorado chapter of the Iron Order. He has not been charged with any crime which is typical of Iron Order shootings.

The Iron Order, made up of sworn peace officers, trains members to use deadly force against members of other motorcycle clubs. Police officers within the club coach other members about what to say to investigating police officers after these shootings. The club has its own “Division of Legal Affairs.” The “Director” of that “Division” is a small town accident lawyer named John C. “Shark” Whitfield. Whitfield flies to the scenes of these crimes, speaks on behalf of the gunmen, lobbies local police, and makes exculpatory statements to the local press. He is good at it. Iron Order members typically explain to police that they are a “law abiding motorcycle club” with many police members and portray themselves as victims. It works.
What Happened

According to both local sources and local news accounts, last night’s shooting involved three men.  Lincoln County Sheriff Charlie Dougherty told television station KWTV that all three men opened fire. One man, a member of the Oklahoma City based Rednecks Motorcycle Club, was shot in the leg. His injury is not life threatening.

According to a local source, as the Redneck passed “a group” of Iron Order riders on Oklahoma Route 62 one of those riders swerved out in front of the Redneck. The source believes that members of the Iron Order followed the Redneck to the gas pumps. According to Sheriff Dougherty, “A couple of them blocked off a guy and an altercation took place. And then from that point it became a gun battle.”

Aerial footage showed five motorcycles at the shooting scene. Two of the motorcycles were overturned.

The shooting is being investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, Lincoln and Pottawatomie County Sheriffs Deputies and Kickapoo Tribal Police.

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« Reply #110 on: April 09, 2016, 06:45:48 pm »

Dashcam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WncSEUxGzNo
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« Reply #111 on: April 23, 2016, 06:20:59 pm »

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The shooter (pictured above with gun still in hand moments after the murder) is a Colorado Department of Corrections officer named Derrick “Kong” Duran. Duran lives in Longmont, Colorado and is the vice-president of the Firestone, Colorado chapter of the Iron Order.


The decision not to prosecute Derrick Duran, a member of the Iron Order Motorcycle Club made up mostly of police and military, added to the frustration of other biker groups that complain the club's members pick fights, then use their law enforcement connections to avoid punishment.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/charges-prison-guard-killed-biker-denver-brawl-38510407



DENVER -- No charges will be filed against an off-duty Colorado Department of Corrections employee who killed a man during a brawl at the Colorado Motorcycle Expo that left several others injured, the Denver District Attorney's Office announced Tuesday.
Victor Mendoza, 46, was killed by a gunshot wound during a fight between two motorcycle clubs at the Denver Coliseum on Jan. 30 and his death was ruled a homicide, the Denver medical examiner said.
Officer Derrick Duran fired the first shot, injuring one person. Within a minute, Mendoza shot at Duran, grazing his torso and hitting another man behind Duran. Duran then fatally shot Mendoza.

The Denver Police Department conducted hundreds of hours investigating the brawl and presented it to the district attorney's office on Monday as a first-degree murder case, Cmdr. Ron Saunier said at a news conference.
"(T)he legal review concluded that there is no likelihood of a conviction due to the self-defense claim of Mr. Duran," the DA's office said in a news release.

Duran is a member of the Iron Order club whose membership is mostly from law enforcement agencies.


(DENVER, Colo) - The Denver District Attorney’s office announced yesterday that no charges will be filed against “an off-duty Colorado Department of Corrections employee” who killed Victor Mendoza after provoking a conflict at the Colorado Motorcycle Expo on January 30th of this year.
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/april232016/denver-biker-murder-dd.php

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« Reply #112 on: May 01, 2016, 09:44:26 pm »

Erato said Funk had a concealed-carry permit for a gun, but Erato doesn’t understand why Funk wouldn’t comply with police commands, as claimed by police.
Police Chief Wilkinson said between 75-80 officers were on the scene.





Dashcam Shows Neenah Police Shoot Hostage Michael Funk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPu-kBh1gkw


The video indicates that police did not warn Funk before they lit him up. The video also shows that police left Funk lying in an alley without medical aid while he died.

Neenah Police Chief Kevin Wilkinson immediately began to diminish the video with rhetoric. He told The Associated Press, “It certainly appears from the video that there was no warning given…There is no requirement that a warning be given, either by law or policy” despite earlier claiming the victim "disobeyed orders."

When police killed him, Funk was a party to a lawsuit against Neenah and its police department. According to that suit, a Swat team executed a search warrant on Eagle Nation on September 21, 2012 in hopes of finding “a complex drug manufacturing and distribution operation."
The suit alleged the city was trying to “force Eagle Nation Cycles out of business. Eagle Nation Cycles is located on a prime piece of property located in a developmental district of downtown. Finding a large cache of drugs would have resulted in an easy acquisition of property for the city.”











According to the lawsuit, Funk: “posed no threat to Officers Hoffer and Ross or to anyone else as he attempted to escape. Nevertheless, within seconds after Michael exited the shop, Officers Hoffer and Ross emerged from their protected position and shot Michael multiple times without giving him any warning of their presence, any warning that he might be shot, or any other instruction or communication of any sort. Many of the shots fired by Officers Hoffer and Ross struck Michael in the back. Michael fell in the Alley. After Michael fell, he was still alive. Officer Ross then shot Michael twice more. Michael lay unattended in the alley next to the Shop’s rear entrance for approximately 30 minutes after he was shot. Officers Hoffer and Ross made no attempt to ascertain Michael’s condition or to procure medical assistance and help for him, even though they learned within four minutes after the shooting that Michael was not the hostage-taker. Michael died while lying in the Alley. 

“Officers Hoffer and Ross concluded that none of the persons in the shop were hostages and that all of the persons in the shop had set an ambush for the police and posed a threat to the police."

Michael Funk lay unattended in the alley for more than 30 minutes after being shot. During that period, the police made no effort to reach Michael or to provide help or medical attention, even though a protective armored vehicle was available for use in reaching Michael and even though they learned within four minutes after the shooting that Michael was not the hostage-taker.
http://www.agingrebel.com/14465

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« Reply #113 on: May 14, 2016, 01:24:02 pm »

Spotted this on CNN, wrapped in "Sons of Anarchy" graphics for fear effect.  They promo'd it as the "bloodiest day in Waco history" so it already seems a bit fact-challenged.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/05/06/exp-cnn-creative-marketing-cnn-special-report-biker-brawl.cnn
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« Reply #114 on: May 14, 2016, 10:12:41 pm »

They promo'd it as the "bloodiest day in Waco history"

How many got turned to ashes in the Branch Davidian debacle?
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« Reply #115 on: May 16, 2016, 01:19:29 am »

How many got turned to ashes in the Branch Davidian debacle?

That was 23 years ago in the last century when the writer was single digits in age and is meaningless ancient history to the writer.
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« Reply #116 on: May 16, 2016, 01:09:42 pm »

That was 23 years ago in the last century when the writer was single digits in age and is meaningless ancient history to the writer.


What I dont expect CNN to say:  "Gee we were sure taken for a ride by the guy in the pretty uniform who was running for office and just killed a bunch of people in a botched sting."













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« Reply #117 on: May 17, 2016, 07:14:04 pm »

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What I dont expect CNN to say:  "Gee we were sure taken for a ride by the guy in the pretty uniform who was running for office and just killed a bunch of people in a botched sting."




Waco PD uniform, automatic weapon, silencer...  Nothing to see here.




WACO - Rain or shine, Yvonne Reeves visits the makeshift shrine and sits, sometimes for hours, a few feet from where her son drew his last breaths.

She combs through the rolling papers, wooden cross and other offerings to the dead left at the shrine, and calls Waco police detectives regularly with a message.
"Are you ready to tell me who killed my son?"

After a year, no trial dates have been set for the 157 people later indicted, despite pleas from defense lawyers for their day in court.

Authorities still have not spelled out who among the bikers is believed to have shot, stabbed or punched another, and who may have been killed or wounded by police.
The names of the officers involved in the shooting remain secret, and officials won't say if their actions were ever reviewed by internal affairs or a grand jury.

"Most of the accused lost their jobs, can't get another job," she said. "Some lost their homes, lost their purpose. Imagine watching your friends getting shot at, some dying right in front of you; then imagine being held in jail on a $1 million bond facing life in prison for some contrived conspiracy to commit the murder and aggravated assault of those friends."





12 key unanswered questions Waco biker case
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/narco-confidential/article/12-Unanswered-Questions-in-Waco-Twin-Peaks-Biker-7467475.php

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« Reply #118 on: May 20, 2016, 06:40:37 pm »

How can they drag this out more than a year?    The corrupt Waco prosecutors obviously aren't hurting for money:

According to the Waco Tribune-Herald, the motorcycles and other vehicles that were seized at the crime scene were expected to be auctioned off by the county as they are considered to be contraband associated with a crime.


In other words, they made a killing off of this killing.

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« Reply #119 on: May 27, 2016, 06:34:31 pm »

ATF Agent Mathew Horace describes motorcycle clubs:  "Not every member of the organization is an outlaw, but certainly there are members of the organizations that purport and commit criminal acts."    http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1605/15/ndaysun.01.html

Wait a second... How many police departments did he just describe?



Waco biker massacre in a nutshell: A joint task force made up of ATF, DPS and Waco police planned to capitalize on a dispute between motorcycle clubs over the use of a "Texas" patch as a part of "Operation Texas Rocker."

The operation would culminate with furtively-planned confrontation between two "outlaw" clubs at a political gathering at a crowded restaurant, where the heroes would swoop down and arrest the brawling bikers...but their hubris and incompetence allowed the plan to quickly spiral out of control.

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