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« Reply #225 on: December 22, 2015, 10:21:55 am »


The 1968 "police riots" were Chicago PD's high water mark.
We know some police who still wear that watershed moment in Chicago's history like a badge of honor.
http://chicagoist.com/2012/05/10/video_alleges_police_intimidation_o.php



I know two people in Tulsa who were politically active - non-violent demonstrations, pamphlets, propaganda, etc., non-drug users, during that time were targeted by TPD.  Fake raids, beatings, destruction of cars, apts, etc by the PD.  Their lawyer ended up telling them that he knew for a fact that they should move out of state.... IF they wanted to remain alive...  Ain't just Chicago, New York, and the LAPD !



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« Reply #226 on: December 22, 2015, 01:00:50 pm »

Chicago was not an aberration in 1968. Just the most visible. Tulsa in 1968 liked their activist policing. Long hairs and afro's were in a hostile environment.
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« Reply #227 on: December 22, 2015, 03:55:05 pm »

Chicago was not an aberration in 1968. Just the most visible. Tulsa in 1968 liked their activist policing. Long hairs and afro's were in a hostile environment.

“Get out of the car, long hair!!!"
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« Reply #228 on: December 22, 2015, 04:07:35 pm »

Yes. The song was accurate. Their Baptist momma's didn't dance and their daddies didn't rock and roll.
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« Reply #229 on: January 03, 2016, 05:59:16 pm »

Chicago was not an aberration in 1968. Just the most visible. Tulsa in 1968 liked their activist policing. Long hairs and afro's were in a hostile environment.

Chicago (CNN) How do you make sure police officers are held accountable if most of their full disciplinary records are no longer available?

The Fraternal Order of Police is demanding that the city of Chicago destroy all police misconduct records more than 5 years old, arguing that keeping them is a breach of its bargaining agreement with the city.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/us/chicago-police-misconduct-records/
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« Reply #230 on: January 04, 2016, 08:08:57 am »

Fun fact:

Police Department's will not release their internal investigations. Since they think they get to keep them secret, they get to wear two different faces! If an internal investigation finds the Officer at fault for something, the department will still have its representative stand up in Court and tell a judge and jury that they did nothing wrong. Knowing the entire time what they are saying to the Court is a lie.

Yay integrity!
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« Reply #231 on: January 04, 2016, 02:51:42 pm »

Fun fact:

Police Department's will not release their internal investigations. Since they think they get to keep them secret, they get to wear two different faces! If an internal investigation finds the Officer at fault for something, the department will still have its representative stand up in Court and tell a judge and jury that they did nothing wrong. Knowing the entire time what they are saying to the Court is a lie.

Yay integrity!


In general you could hide behing the "Its a private personell matter" curtain, but if you have done your politicking, your union would have re-written the Open Records Act to suit your furtiveness.
http://www.fox23.com/news/news/local/glanz-petitions-dismiss-charge/nptw8/


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« Reply #232 on: January 08, 2016, 12:51:45 pm »

I am glad to see this guy go down and the department shenanigans brought to light.
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« Reply #233 on: January 16, 2016, 04:25:18 pm »

I am glad to see this guy go down and the department shenanigans brought to light.

Working hard to regain the public's trust.

"This big fella was sitting up here, and every time Tony would come by on a tractor, he'd flip him off," said spectator Tyler Haire, who filmed the incident.

“We had a race fan that probably had too much beer from my observations after speaking with him,” said Tulsa Deputy Police Chief and Expo Square Liaison officer Dennis Larson. “He kept taunting Tony Stewart as Tony would pass by.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/tony-stewart-confronts-off-duty-deputy-stands-chili/story?id=36332980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xGzlE0-i-Q

Where was his gun during this?

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« Reply #234 on: January 16, 2016, 08:32:32 pm »

Working hard to regain the public's trust.

Where was his gun during this?



In his pants right next to the potato.
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« Reply #235 on: January 17, 2016, 04:11:19 pm »


"I was in fear for my life" from the guy I was picking a fight with....   Wink



(Corporal) Hess was escorted out of the Expo Center, (Deputy Chief) Larson said.
“I met with the fan outside of the building,” Larson said. “He was under the influence of alcohol, and we suggested to him that he call it a night at the Chili Bowl and that he is welcome to come back today (Saturday).


....at which time did Larson offer him a ride, or did he just stagger back to his police car?




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« Reply #236 on: January 17, 2016, 07:18:29 pm »

In his pants right next to the potato.

Good thing he didn’t reach for his “taser” eh?
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« Reply #237 on: January 18, 2016, 08:28:12 am »

What are the odds that this intoxicated off-duty sheriff DIDN'T have his service weapon on him?

Intoxicated in public - check
picking a fight - check
requiring police intervention - check
while armed - check


Being in possession of a firearm while intoxicated is a misdemeanor.
Being in possession of a firearm at a bar is a felony.
Being in possession of a firearm while engaged in a crime of violence is a felony.
Engaging in reckless conduct while in possession of a firearm is a felony.

What happened to all the talk about "enforcing the gun laws we currently have?"  

I'm fine with the outcome of this incident, just a drunken idiot being tossed from a sporting event. But the police officer could have, had he wanted, ruined this mans life. When a police officer has the discretion to either do nothing, or charge a person with multiple felonies and put them away for years --- such selective enforcement of the laws essentially makes the laws optional for some people, and mandatory for others.

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« Reply #238 on: January 18, 2016, 12:16:21 pm »


I know two people in Tulsa who were politically active - non-violent demonstrations, pamphlets, propaganda, etc., non-drug users, during that time were targeted by TPD.  Fake raids, beatings, destruction of cars, apts, etc by the PD.  Their lawyer ended up telling them that he knew for a fact that they should move out of state.... IF they wanted to remain alive...  Ain't just Chicago, New York, and the LAPD !





Bullshit...
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« Reply #239 on: January 18, 2016, 12:17:51 pm »


I'm fine with the outcome of this incident, just a drunken idiot being tossed from a sporting event. But the police officer could have, had he wanted, ruined this mans life. When a police officer has the discretion to either do nothing, or charge a person with multiple felonies and put them away for years --- such selective enforcement of the laws essentially makes the laws optional for some people, and mandatory for others.



I'm curious how this would've gone had this involved someone less well known as Tony Stewart.
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