Tulsa County Sheriff shooting of Eric Harris

[patric]

Is PCP even a drug that exists in Tulsa?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2014/08/21/the-shooting-of-michael-brown-and-the-phantom-menace-of-drug-crazed-blacks

The ME did specifically test for it, according to the toxicology report.

[Jammie]

Tulsa Volunteer Deputy Cancels Bahamas Trip after Shooting

http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/tulsa-volunteer-deputy-cancels-bahamas-trip-after-shooting

How interesting! This mustn't have hit national news or was only on there briefly. It's amazing that Bates didn't have the common sense/compassion to realize his vacation should've been cancelled after what he'd done and only did so after it made him look bad to others. I imagine his victim also had plans of doing fun things with his family, but Bates took care of that! I don't feel a bit sorry for him or his family for having to skip this vacation.

[Jammie]

Looks like the National press is going with the he was high on Meth story.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3081506/Eric-Harris-high-METH-fatally-shot.html

They can go with whatever story they choose, but it doesn't explain the action of Bates. Blaming the victim has always been an asinine thing to do.

[cynical]

It's just part of the scene. They deal with meth-heads all of the time and usually don't shoot them. Then Bates comes along, forgets the chain of command training he never got, steps out of his perimeter control gig to be closer to the action, gets all excited, forgets the use of deadly force training he never got, shoots him, and the rest is history. And the Sheriff's reaction to the problem was (1) everything was done correctly, besides, Bates is no older than I am, (2), well, not quite everything was done correctly, but the FBI says it's cool, (3), well I didn't know any of this stuff, so I'm going to fire everyone who was responsible, uh, except me. Now go away and let me take a nap.

They can go with whatever story they choose, but it doesn't explain the action of Bates. Blaming the victim has always been an asinine thing to do.

[Ed W]

They're circulating the petition to remove Stanley Glanz from office at the Blue Dome Arts Festival.

[patric]

They're circulating the petition to remove Stanley Glanz from office at the Blue Dome Arts Festival.

Hasn't always been a smooth process in Tulsa.

http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/medical-marijuana-backers-claim-harrassment-tulsa-/ngMpQ
http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/Tulsa-police-approach-marijuana-petitioners-26284618

[Ed W]

When they set up a card table on public land near Reasors in Owasso, someone called the police to complain about people selling marijuana on 86th Street.

[Vashta Nerada]

Is PCP even a drug that exists in Tulsa?

It is a stock excuse for 6 cops to dogpile a citizen.  TPD is just as guilty.

Funny that no one believes anything PIO Shannon Clark says anymore, yet they cant remember most of the lies throughout the years.

[Townsend]

Per TW -

"Effective today Mr. Shannon Clark is no longer an employee of the Tulsa County Sheriff's Office," the statement said.

[Vashta Nerada]

This kind of thing, be it accidental or blatant misconduct, has been happening for decades. The only reason not punishing police for killing civilians is controversial now is because of video. When there is no video, there still is no charge.  Unless the Feds come in, life departments and officers will not get in trouble.

Hence, the fake outrage over body cameras.

Anyone recall a corrupt, violent, or murderous officer getting punished without video evidence that was leaked to the public first?

Anyone think departments don't know of police who are corrupt, violent, or murderous who deserve to be punished?

Who really thinks the Okmulgee County District Attorney (or any area DA, for that matter) will be unbiased?  Too many conflicts of interest.

Cant use OSBI; Glanz is on the board and they mostly do whitewashes for small town departments, anyway.
Cant use FBI; their incestuous relationship with TCSO includes the cover-up of the accidental shooting of Russell Doza in 2010.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1070794/pg1?disclaimer=1

DOJ?  Amnesty International?  League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?

[Jammie]

That's so sad! The poor guy's offense was sleeping and being nearly deaf! They can always use the excuse, "I feared for my life." That's always worked for them in the past.

This reminds me of the man who was walking down the street with a pellet gun that he'd just bought. The officer supposedly yelled at him a few times and said he didn't comply so he shot him in the back several times, killing the man. While on the witness stand, they'd asked the shooter if there was any reason that the man didn't comply and the officer said there was no reason. They had video from local stores showing the man just before he was shot and he was wearing ear buds, but when more responders arrived, the buds were in his pocket. You just have to wonder who put them there.

[patric]

They're circulating the petition to remove Stanley Glanz from office at the Blue Dome Arts Festival.

So, what is the difference between keeping the names and addresses of a grand jury secret, and keeping the names and addresses of people signing a petition to empanel a grand jury secret?

After the threat to sue those who merely signed the petition, I can see why they would need legal protection.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/we-the-people-oklahoma-cites-threats-in-asking-to-keep/article_b555d214-1a97-54c5-86de-db5efed87f19.html

[Ed W]

On their FB page, the petition organizers said their volunteers have been threatened.

[Vashta Nerada]

On their FB page, the petition organizers said their volunteers have been threatened.

When someone representing a police department (like Simonson) goes on record saying the may sue anyone who signs a petition, that has a chilling effect on not only free speech but the democratic process as a whole.

Definitely reenforces the purpose of the petition, IMHO, but law-abiding citizens excercising their legal rights shouldnt have to live in fear of government retaliation.

[patric]

Bet nobody expected this:


Sheriff Stanley Glanz says he has no choice but to use taxpayer dollars to challenge a grassroots effort to oust him from his elected position.

Glanz said the funds that will go to the Tulsa-based law firm of McDonald, McCann, Metcalf and Carwile will come from the Sheriff’s Office’s fee account. That account includes money from drug or property seizures and contracted work.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/courts/sheriff-stanley-glanz-says-he-must-use-taxpayer-funds-for/article_b8be7a6d-2a0c-543f-befe-97df30f9578b.html