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« Reply #75 on: September 01, 2017, 09:38:10 am »

And then there is this example of police excess....  

Nothing will come from this either.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/this-is-crazy-sobs-utah-hospital-nurse-as-cop-roughs-her-up-arrests-her-for-doing-her-job/ar-AAr4UTh

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« Reply #76 on: September 01, 2017, 10:25:02 am »


All those cops need to be fired. Not just the one that assaulted and arrested the nurse, he needs to be fired and charged with several crimes. The others let it happen and should be fired as well. Send a message. We have a huge problem with the attitude and behavior of police in this country. They act above the law they are supposed to enforce, they shoot first and resort to violence as a habit when dealing with the public. It has to stop.
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« Reply #77 on: September 01, 2017, 11:40:23 am »

All those cops need to be fired. Not just the one that assaulted and arrested the nurse, he needs to be fired and charged with several crimes. The others let it happen and should be fired as well. Send a message. We have a huge problem with the attitude and behavior of police in this country. They act above the law they are supposed to enforce, they shoot first and resort to violence as a habit when dealing with the public. It has to stop.

Its sad that with all the cops present, not one "good apple" spoke in favor of the one person who was obeying the law.

NURSE: The patient can’t consent, he’s told me repeatedly that he doesn’t have a warrant, and the patient is not under arrest,” she says. “So I’m just trying to do what I’m supposed to do, that’s all.”

Here is the assault and battery of that medical professional:  https://www.youtube.com/watch

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/08/31/utah-nurse-arrested-after-complying-with-hospital-policy-that-bars-taking-blood-from-unconscious-victim/
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« Reply #78 on: September 01, 2017, 12:53:58 pm »

It's because despite the relentless drumbeat and propaganda, we are not a country of law in way to many cases.
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« Reply #79 on: September 03, 2017, 10:34:15 am »

It's because despite the relentless drumbeat and propaganda, we are not a country of law in way to many cases.

We look to men and women in uniform to protect our civil liberties. In this case, the woman in uniform happened to be wearing nursing scrubs.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/02/gehrke-the-outrageous-arrest-of-a-nurse-exposed-salt-lake-city-police-for-having-bizarrely-out-of-date-policies/
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« Reply #80 on: September 05, 2017, 10:16:00 am »

We look to men and women in uniform to protect our civil liberties. In this case, the woman in uniform happened to be wearing nursing scrubs.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/02/gehrke-the-outrageous-arrest-of-a-nurse-exposed-salt-lake-city-police-for-having-bizarrely-out-of-date-policies/




I guess she should just consider herself lucky they didn't go ahead and shoot her.  The guys Lt told him to arrest her...?   How high does the stupid have to go before someone notices?

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« Reply #81 on: September 05, 2017, 01:26:36 pm »

That pesky 4th Amendment getting in the way of the government prosecuting it's citizens. 

Blame ignorant police and a cowardly Supreme Court.  The Court addressed this issue - in this instance it appears likely they should have just gotten a warrant.  But the Court should have made a much easier test for everyone to follow.  Instead, the Court basically said that always requiring a warrant  is too cumbersome, but you should get a warrant for a blood test except when you don't have to.  Again, it appears in this situation the police they should have just gotten a warrant.  Or, when in doubt you'd think they'd want to err on the side of protecting constitutional rights (if for no other reason than to protect the case against whomever).

Certainly when the person the government is ordering to take a sample refuses to because procedure won't allow it - arresting them seems to be a strange reaction.

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Respondents have offered no satisfactory justification for demanding the more intrusive alternative without a warrant. In instances where blood tests might be preferable—e.g., where substances other than alcohol impair the driver’s ability to operate a car safely, or where the subject is unconscious—nothing prevents the police from seeking a warrant or from relying on the exigent circumstances exception if it applies.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-1468_8n59.pdf
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« Reply #82 on: September 05, 2017, 01:32:32 pm »


I guess she should just consider herself lucky they didn't go ahead and shoot her.  The guys Lt told him to arrest her...?   How high does the stupid have to go before someone notices?


There on paid vacation suspension now, but initially the detective was just pulled off the blood-draw team.  

The hospital knew he would be right back at it in six months, so they decided to be proactive:

Utah hospital bars police from contact with nurses after ‘appalling’ arrest
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/04/utah-hospital-bars-cops-from-contact-with-nurses-after-appalling-arrest
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« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2017, 11:16:52 am »


The hospital knew he would be right back at it in six months, so they decided to be proactive:

Utah hospital bars police from contact with nurses after ‘appalling’ arrest
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/04/utah-hospital-bars-cops-from-contact-with-nurses-after-appalling-arrest

That's really F'd up that a hospital has to protect its nursing staff from police officers.
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« Reply #84 on: October 11, 2017, 08:53:49 am »

That's really F'd up that a hospital has to protect its nursing staff from police officers.

Follow up:  One fired, another demoted, and the fatal high-speed chase that triggered it all buried.

Footage ‘tells the truth,’ Utah nurse says after the SLC officer who arrested her was fired

“I will say that the level of scrutiny that this case received would not have been the case had there been no bodycam footage,” Wubbels said. “It would have been a he-said, she-said or multiple he-saids against a she-said. I do not think the truth would have been told without the bodycam footage.”
The president of the Salt Lake Police Association, a union, wrote in a letter to Brown and Salt Lake City Mayor Jackie Biskupski that Payne and Tracy had been “unfairly and improperly made pariahs” by the video.


http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/10/10/slc-police-chief-fires-one-officer-disciplines-another-in-nurse-arrest-case/

Now they can move on.


Bodycam footage shows Utah police shoot man as he runs away
(CNN)The Salt Lake City Police Department is the latest US police department to come under scrutiny after bodycam footage shows an officer shooting and killing a man, even as the man appeared to be running away.

http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/171008145737-patrick-harmon-shooting-video-salt-lake-city-police-nr-00000000-exlarge-169.jpg
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« Reply #85 on: October 11, 2017, 09:19:39 am »

Follow up:  One fired, another demoted, and the fatal high-speed chase that triggered it all buried.

Footage ‘tells the truth,’ Utah nurse says after the SLC officer who arrested her was fired

“I will say that the level of scrutiny that this case received would not have been the case had there been no bodycam footage,” Wubbels said. “It would have been a he-said, she-said or multiple he-saids against a she-said. I do not think the truth would have been told without the bodycam footage.”
The president of the Salt Lake Police Association, a union, wrote in a letter to Brown and Salt Lake City Mayor Jackie Biskupski that Payne and Tracy had been “unfairly and improperly made pariahs” by the video.


http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/10/10/slc-police-chief-fires-one-officer-disciplines-another-in-nurse-arrest-case/

Now they can move on.


Bodycam footage shows Utah police shoot man as he runs away
(CNN)The Salt Lake City Police Department is the latest US police department to come under scrutiny after bodycam footage shows an officer shooting and killing a man, even as the man appeared to be running away.

http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/171008145737-patrick-harmon-shooting-video-salt-lake-city-police-nr-00000000-exlarge-169.jpg

"Unfairly and improperly made pariahs"?

Because the bodycam footage shows your officers were asshats and weren't following procedure?

Whatever.

It's incidents like this that give the public a terrible impression of LEO, especially when the union tries to make the officers out to be the victims here.  SMFH.
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« Reply #86 on: October 11, 2017, 11:06:26 pm »

Follow up:  One fired, another demoted, and the fatal high-speed chase that triggered it all buried.

Footage ‘tells the truth,’ Utah nurse says after the SLC officer who arrested her was fired

“I will say that the level of scrutiny that this case received would not have been the case had there been no bodycam footage,” Wubbels said. “It would have been a he-said, she-said or multiple he-saids against a she-said. I do not think the truth would have been told without the bodycam footage.”
The president of the Salt Lake Police Association, a union, wrote in a letter to Brown and Salt Lake City Mayor Jackie Biskupski that Payne and Tracy had been “unfairly and improperly made pariahs” by the video.


http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/10/10/slc-police-chief-fires-one-officer-disciplines-another-in-nurse-arrest-case/

Now they can move on.


Bodycam footage shows Utah police shoot man as he runs away
(CNN)The Salt Lake City Police Department is the latest US police department to come under scrutiny after bodycam footage shows an officer shooting and killing a man, even as the man appeared to be running away.

http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/171008145737-patrick-harmon-shooting-video-salt-lake-city-police-nr-00000000-exlarge-169.jpg

Curious if the fired officers have mailed resumes to the Rogers County Sheriff's Department yet.
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« Reply #87 on: October 12, 2017, 07:52:28 am »

Curious if the fired officers have mailed resumes to the Rogers County Sheriff's Department yet.


Shelby is gonna  make the recruiting calls next week....


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« Reply #88 on: October 20, 2017, 11:15:59 am »


Shelby is gonna  make the recruiting calls next week....




Wow, how tacky.

Defense attorney Richard O'Carroll said it was a hard time for him after learning the guilty verdict. He said if you take enough shots at someone, they are going to hit you.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/courts/the-justice-we-deserve-victim-s-father-speaks-after-jury/article_fd9dbd99-d139-5ef5-9d13-0c3172ebcb4a.html
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« Reply #89 on: October 20, 2017, 11:28:46 am »

And in other news directly linked to this thread, Bob Bates is now a free man.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-oklahoma-reserve-deputy-roberts-bates-released-prison-n812446
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