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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2014, 10:50:39 pm »

Sounds like teachers unions, too.

I don't disagree.
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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2014, 08:08:27 pm »

There is a difference between supporting police officers and supporting the police union. The union uses strong arm and over the top statements to the press to bully politicians, especially Mayors. It is easy to believe the union has failed to get along with any of the previous three Mayors in New York.

The Tulsa FOP has not endorsed a single incumbent Mayor in my lifetime. None of them were good enough, ever. They don't get everything they want so they financially backed the challenger, always. Even when they get take home vehicles and a bigger pay raise than all other city workers (under Bill LaFortune) they still backed Randi Miller in the primary and Kathy Taylor in the general election.

I think the New York police union was out of line for making the statement that the killing of the two officers was in any way a blame on the Mayor. Just because de Blasio made a few statements about an officer killing a black man. He said it was troubling, and anyone who isn't drinking the "cops are always right" would agree.



Patrick Lynch is the 51-year-old president of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, the largest and most influential union of the New York City Police Department. You might recognize his name: Over the weekend, Lynch blamed Bill de Blasio for the Saturday deaths of two Brooklyn cops who were murdered by a lone gunman from Georgia. “That blood on the hands,” he said at a press conference, “starts on the steps of City Hall, in the office of the mayor.”

To understand why he would say something so wrong and inflammatory, you need to delve into Lynch’s long, checkered history of issuing similarly insane statements. His public declarations over the past 15 years are essentially pro-police agitprop: Cops can do no wrong, while victims of their state-sanctioned violence always had it coming. They are also a deep well of masculine anxiety, hurt feelings, and barely disguised racism.

Here are some of Lynch’s greatest hits. Please consult them whenever he opens his mouth in the future.

MORE:  http://gawker.com/nypd-union-president-patrick-lynch-is-completely-nuts-1674178970













http://gawker.com/new-yorks-law-enforcement-unions-are-filled-with-pathet-1673195224
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2014, 12:23:13 am »



Patrick Lynch is the 51-year-old president of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, the largest and most influential union of the New York City Police Department. You might recognize his name: Over the weekend, Lynch blamed Bill de Blasio for the Saturday deaths of two Brooklyn cops who were murdered by a lone gunman from Georgia. “That blood on the hands,” he said at a press conference, “starts on the steps of City Hall, in the office of the mayor.”

To understand why he would say something so wrong and inflammatory, you need to delve into Lynch’s long, checkered history of issuing similarly insane statements. His public declarations over the past 15 years are essentially pro-police agitprop: Cops can do no wrong, while victims of their state-sanctioned violence always had it coming. They are also a deep well of masculine anxiety, hurt feelings, and barely disguised racism.

Here are some of Lynch’s greatest hits. Please consult them whenever he opens his mouth in the future.

MORE:  http://gawker.com/nypd-union-president-patrick-lynch-is-completely-nuts-1674178970



http://gawker.com/new-yorks-law-enforcement-unions-are-filled-with-pathet-1673195224

That's clever. I consult your posts when I need reminding of idiocy.
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2014, 07:02:36 pm »

That's clever. I consult your posts when I need reminding of idiocy.
u on the wrong side of history. 



(CNN) -- Some years ago I was the municipal prosecutor in a midsize New Jersey town. I had weekly "night court" duties, where we handled traffic violations, DUIs and other nonfelonies. I can say without reservation that during the years I worked as a prosecutor, I held the police in the highest regard and greatly trusted them. I felt this way for years after I stopped prosecuting.

But those feelings are gone. Don't get me wrong, I don't view the police as the enemy. I simply don't trust them like I once did. I no longer give them the benefit of the doubt, meaning I can now just as easily believe the suspect's version of the facts as the police officers. And I can easily believe allegations of police misconduct.

And here's what New York City police union leader Patrick Lynch and others like him in the New York Police Department don't get:  I'm not the exception. In fact, my views about police put me in the company of a growing number of Americans.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/22/opinion/obeidallah-police-killing/
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« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2014, 08:07:12 pm »

I had weekly "night court" duties, where we handled traffic violations, DUIs and other nonfelonies.

Night Court.  That was a fun TV series.
 
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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2014, 08:48:15 pm »

Night Court.  That was a fun TV series.
 
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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2014, 10:28:22 pm »



I think Markie Post was better looking.



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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2014, 03:06:26 am »

I think Markie Post was better looking.


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 was just keeping things in line with NYC LEO comments.
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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2014, 07:49:02 pm »

was just keeping things in line with NYC LEO comments.



With these acts of passive-aggressive contempt and self-pity, many New York police officers, led by their union, are squandering the department’s credibility, defacing its reputation, shredding its hard-earned respect. They have taken the most grave and solemn of civic moments — a funeral of a fallen colleague — and hijacked it for their own petty look-at-us gesture.

(...no) grievances can justify the snarling sense of victimhood that seems to be motivating the anti-de Blasio campaign — the belief that the department is never wrong, that it never needs redirection or reform, only reverence. This is the view peddled by union officials like Patrick Lynch, the president of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association — that cops are an ethically impeccable force with their own priorities and codes of behavior, accountable only to themselves, and whose reflexive defiance in the face of valid criticism is somehow normal.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/30/opinion/police-respect-squandered-in-attacks-on-de-blasio.html
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« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2014, 08:34:13 pm »

Here's a police chief who takes "protect and serve" as a mandate to do so for all citizens. His department even served hot chocolate to protesters.

This is a longish piece on PINAC, but it includes several emails from the chief.

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/12/worlds-greatest-police-chief-nashvilles-chief-anderson-gets-vote/
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« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2014, 11:54:41 am »

Here's a police chief who takes "protect and serve" as a mandate to do so for all citizens. His department even served hot chocolate to protesters.

This is a longish piece on PINAC, but it includes several emails from the chief.

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/12/worlds-greatest-police-chief-nashvilles-chief-anderson-gets-vote/


When Chief Steve Anderson's letter went viral last week, it reminded me of the interrogation of 9/11 suspect Abu Jandal, who wasnt responding to waterboarding but rather to sugar-free cookies.  It was a matter of earning respect by showing it.

“the government needs to be, and is, somewhat flexible, especially in situations where there are minor violations of law. A government that had zero tolerance for even minor infractions would prove unworkable in short order.”

Compare Nashville PD's discretion to Tulsa leaders who "had no choice" but to deploy almost 50 officers and a helicopter from a half-dozen different agencies, to dogpile and pepper-spray a handful of peaceful protestors for violating a park curfew.

Merry Christmas, Chief Anderson, and thank you for giving us hope.

http://www.nashville.gov/News-Media/News-Article/ID/3605/A-Christmas-Message-for-the-MNPD-from-Chief-Steve-Anderson.aspx



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« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2014, 07:49:36 pm »

A funny thing happened in New York City last week: Cops stopped arresting people. Not altogether, of course—that would be anarchy. But since last Monday, the number of arrests in America's largest city plummeted by two-thirds compared to the previous year. The decline is a conscious slowdown by New York's police force to protest City Hall's perceived lack of support for law enforcement.
But the police union's phrasing—officers shouldn't make arrests "unless absolutely necessary"—begs the question: How many unnecessary arrests was the NYPD making before now?


http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/12/the-benefits-of-fewer-nypd-arrests/384126/
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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2015, 08:22:54 pm »

Random killings of NYPD Officers Liu and Ramos turned out to be a bigger tragedy than first imagined.
The unprovoked actions of a mental patient had not only a chilling effect on a much-needed movement towards police reform, but fanning the union-fed flames of paranoia over shootings of police has resulted shootings by police to skyrocket dramatically.

The response Lynch and some conservative commentators have had to the horrific killing of these two police officers and the alleged attempt to kill a woman is profoundly un-American. It is meant to chill any criticism or efforts to improve our country and only serves to divide an already deeply divided country and to increase tensions in an already tense time.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-raushenbush/liu-ramos-garner-brown_2_b_6362468.html

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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2015, 05:10:05 pm »

Union Slowdown Leads To Apocalyptic Crime Wave In NYC
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/1ao4ds/new-yorkers-for-a-s--ttier-new-york

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