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« on: October 21, 2014, 01:39:45 am »

It will be at 5th and 129th East Avenue
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2014, 08:12:29 am »

Truly curious what this does to Simon and the announced Cherokee mall.  The Cherokees are apparently “shovel-ready” and can mobilize in 5-6 months.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2014, 11:22:09 am »

Maybe Tulsa will be known as "Outlet Mall capital of the world."
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2014, 03:17:26 pm »

Not all feasible. I like Simon for traffic and retail viability. 5th and 129th is a bit out of the way for most, but on the way if you're going to the cherokee one, so a slap in the face to them.

I see a lot of designer sunglass stores and custom license plates.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2014, 03:22:27 pm »

Not all feasible. I like Simon for traffic and retail viability. 5th and 129th is a bit out of the way for most, but on the way if you're going to the cherokee one, so a slap in the face to them.

I see a lot of designer sunglass stores and custom license plates.

As it sits now, there is ZERO traffic viability for Simon. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2014, 05:59:56 am »

How do you know it will be located at 5th and 129th? They haven't announced the location yet
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2014, 06:32:50 am »

http://www.newson6.com/story/26831966/another-upscale-outlet-mall-in-the-works-for-tulsa
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2014, 07:03:01 am »

And there you have it.   Cool
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2014, 12:58:44 pm »

Horizon appears to be trying to get the jump on its two competitors by announcing it will break ground next summer.  Looks like all three are in a race and trying to cut off the other two by signing up tenants.  I assume announcing a ground breaking date is intended to help Horizon secure tenant commitments and that without a sufficient number of commitments it will not move forward.  As with so many past announced Tulsa developments, I believe it when dirt starts moving.



Groundbreaking will be next summer for a new outlet mall in east Tulsa, which officials said will provide 1,200 permanent and an additional 1,600 seasonal jobs.

The announcement was made during a news conference on Wednesday at City Hall.



The upscale, deco-style mall — to be built by Michigan-based Horizon Group Properties — is the third outlet mall announced for the Tulsa area in recent months.


The Horizon Group President and CEO Gary Skoien said Wednesday that although there are two other planned outlet malls for Tulsa, "there's no doubt in my mind that this outlet center will be the finest-designed and best location, and provide the most benefits for the Tulsa region."


The mall will be built next to an old Albertsons warehouse between 129th and 145th East Avenues near where I-44 connects with I-244.


Horizon Group is the developer of The Outlet Shoppes at Oklahoma City as well as 11 retail developments throughout the United States.


The planned mall will feature 90 stores and will open in 2017.


The project will also include 355,000 square feet of gross leasable land for restaurants, hotels and additional retail operations development.


Tenants for the new mall will be announced once development is underway, officials said Wednesday.


The 90 retailers will have estimated annual sales of $120 million, officials said.


They estimate the project will provide 1,000 construction jobs, 1,200 permanent jobs and 1,600 seasonal jobs. A breakdown of how many of those jobs would be full- or part-time was not immediately available on Wednesday.


Officials said the mall will have a layout similar to The Outlet Shoppes in Oklahoma City, but the design will reflect the art deco style of architecture that is prevalent in Tulsa.


Horizon’s announcement follows a flurry of recent announcements, including one made last month by Cherokee Nation Businesses, which is bringing a premium outlet shopping and new entertainment district to the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino.


The proposed “Cherokee Outlets,” to be located west of the casino and open by late 2016, will offer more than 300,000 square feet of leasable space with a focus on premium and upscale shops for about 100 retailers.


Woodmont Outlets, an affiliate of Fort-Worth-based The Woodmont Co., plans to invest $80 million in the Cherokee Outlets development.


Also, Simon Property Group, which is the owner of Woodland Hills Mall, recently announced plans to build an upscale outlet mall in west Tulsa to be located north of the Tulsa Hills area near U.S. 75 and 61st Street.
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2014, 01:34:01 pm »

Maybe Tulsa will be known as "Outlet Mall capital of the world."

"Upscale outlet mall capital of the world"

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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2014, 07:58:16 pm »

How do you know it will be located at 5th and 129th? They haven't announced the location yet

On this forum we don't wait around for formal announcements
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2014, 08:00:12 pm »

Deco-style?

Flappers buying BOGO khakis?



Keep in mind even Branson couldn't support more than one. Vegas has two, but only one is a real outlet mall. The other is just crap sold in close proximity to other crap.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2014, 08:59:10 pm »

On this forum we don't wait around for formal announcements

Good intel.
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2014, 11:03:58 am »

On this forum we don't wait around for formal announcements

When has anyone on the internet ever waiting for confirmation.
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2014, 12:46:24 pm »

Don't these malls need commitments from tenants before they can secure funds and build?  At some point the retailers are going to choose which proposal they want to be a part of and that should thin out the heard.  There is no way there is enough demographics to support three outlet malls.  It seems very unlikely to me that the major outlet retailers (Nike, Gap, etc.) would commit to multiple outlet locations in a market the size of Tulsa.
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