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« Reply #255 on: March 14, 2015, 05:24:56 pm »


 if you want to call the interactions of police - a small microcosm of society in general - the "secondary infection", fine....it's just semantics.  And Ferguson is a small item of what has gone on in this country for a long time.
The one event is what triggered (the thorn?), but was not the root cause (the secondary infection?).  Backwards, but ok, let's go with that....  Sad that the RWRE can't understand that - it's the focused, lasered training from Rupert and Friends... Fox and Friends that installs the blinders for them...  They actually DO understand, but that doesn't fit The Script, so must be attacked and eliminated if possible.


“This is really an ambush, is what it is,” said Chief Jon Belmar of the St. Louis County Police Department. "You can't see it coming. ... And you are basically defenseless from the fact that it is happening to you."  Belmar said the shooter was "somehow embedded" among the demonstrators.

Police in full riot gear with helmets and shields, gathered from multiple jurisdictions and in battle formation, "ambushed" by someone in a crowd of protestors, and simply vanished without a trace?
Then there's that odd military reference to the shooter being "embedded," which reveals that police dont believe the shooter was a protestor.



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« Reply #256 on: March 14, 2015, 05:44:27 pm »


“This is really an ambush, is what it is,” said Chief Jon Belmar of the St. Louis County Police Department. "You can't see it coming. ... And you are basically defenseless from the fact that it is happening to you."  Belmar said the shooter was "somehow embedded" among the demonstrators.

Police in full riot gear with helmets and shields, gathered from multiple jurisdictions and in battle formation, "ambushed" by someone in a crowd of protestors, and simply vanished without a trace?
Then there's that odd military reference to the shooter being "embedded," which reveals that police dont believe the shooter was a protestor.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIoMfVNVx4g
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« Reply #257 on: March 14, 2015, 09:26:54 pm »


You missed one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/shooting-in-metro-system-dc-police-say/2015/03/12/8f3abf6e-c921-11e4-b2a1-bed1aaea2816_story.html

Averaging three a day, but because they are killed by police, their lives cease to matter.



No I didn't.  These two are specific to St Louis - some family lives there.  One of them works in a building on the road this went down on.  Everyone had left for the day.

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« Reply #258 on: March 14, 2015, 09:44:27 pm »


“This is really an ambush, is what it is,” said Chief Jon Belmar of the St. Louis County Police Department. "You can't see it coming. ... And you are basically defenseless from the fact that it is happening to you."  Belmar said the shooter was "somehow embedded" among the demonstrators.

Police in full riot gear with helmets and shields, gathered from multiple jurisdictions and in battle formation, "ambushed" by someone in a crowd of protestors, and simply vanished without a trace?
Then there's that odd military reference to the shooter being "embedded," which reveals that police dont believe the shooter was a protestor.



Conclusion... jumped to...  That logic is the kind of thing they use in Logic 101 as an example of faulty/invalid logic.  IOW, you can't get there from here - probably wasn't 'with' the protestors - just using them as cover - but doesn't make the shooter a cop plant either...not by a long shot!!

I suspect it's more he is using the terminology they use to attribute an action to someone who was on the 'other side'.  Ambushed - yeah, that event pretty well fit the definition, I think.  I also suspect the bullets came from outside the immediate area of the group of protestors, when all the dust settles.



Ferguson and Berkely are pretty ragged areas in St Louis - family is about 3 miles west of there - and you can see that the crime is average to high.  Murder is moderate rate - sometimes higher, sometimes lower.  Way less than Detroit, but amazingly close to Washington DC.  (comparing numbers per 100,000)

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Ferguson-Missouri.html

National comparisons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate_%282012%29


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« Reply #259 on: March 15, 2015, 01:41:58 pm »

Sounds like they got the shooter.

http://fox2now.com/2015/03/15/st-louis-county-police-suspected-shooter-of-two-police-officers-in-custody/

http://woundedamericanwarrior.com/breaking-thug-jeffrey-williams-shooter-of-two-ferguson-police-officers-in-custody/#
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« Reply #260 on: March 15, 2015, 01:59:40 pm »

Reading some and watching the video, it, at first blush, appears that the police weren't targeted.

Before you go full on ape-$hit, that doesn't absolve this moron from anything.  If it turns out what is stated is true, it makes him a terrible marksman if he targeted someone else.  And an idiot for doing it in a crowd of protesters outside the police station.  Especially THIS police station.
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« Reply #261 on: March 15, 2015, 04:33:57 pm »

Reading some and watching the video, it, at first blush, appears that the police weren't targeted.

Before you go full on ape-$hit, that doesn't absolve this moron from anything.  If it turns out what is stated is true, it makes him a terrible marksman if he targeted someone else.  And an idiot for doing it in a crowd of protesters outside the police station.  Especially THIS police station.

Sounds like you might be right

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-police-shooter-had-been-at-protest-earlier-source-says/article_a25d4fc3-5889-5f15-a8fe-2995af5962ac.html

and Im guessing it wasnt the people living under this roof?


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« Reply #262 on: March 15, 2015, 07:06:00 pm »

probably wasn't 'with' the protestors - just using them as cover



"This last event was not the protesters," Robert Howard, a police officer who lives in Ferguson and works in nearby Hillsdale, told NBC News days after the two officers were shot. "This was another act of an opportunist."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cop-ferguson-says-protesters-are-going-be-ones-help-us-n323381
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« Reply #263 on: March 15, 2015, 08:35:46 pm »

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« Reply #264 on: March 15, 2015, 08:37:11 pm »



Hmm..don't like the outcome so call it Spam.  I see....
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« Reply #265 on: March 16, 2015, 01:46:32 am »

Hmm..don't like the outcome so call it Spam.  I see....

I don't like the "outcome" either . Two cops were shot, and you are more focused on the excuse given by the admitted shooter. This upstanding human being:



He also reportedly posted this on Facebook: "“It’s so easy to take somebody life…. Bt y’all niggas scared to bang….smh…….. Gotta Have da best of both worlds.”

The DA also said Williams had been demonstrating earlier that night.
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« Reply #266 on: March 16, 2015, 05:28:06 am »

Hoss hates law enforcement too.......
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« Reply #267 on: March 16, 2015, 05:37:52 am »

Hoss hates law enforcement too.......

Aww, isn't that cute.  The sleepover club is ganging up on me...whatever will I do?

I wonder, do you guys complete each other's sentences?
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« Reply #268 on: March 16, 2015, 10:11:58 am »

Aww, isn't that cute.  The sleepover club is ganging up on me...whatever will I do?

I wonder, do you guys complete each other's sentences?

Hoss, you are just not appreciating how much space they are using up to complain about people using up space.
You should see it for the accomplishment it is... you know, like staring in awe over a really big BM.
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« Reply #269 on: March 16, 2015, 04:06:17 pm »

Hoss, you are just not appreciating how much space they are using up to complain about people using up space.
You should see it for the accomplishment it is... you know, like staring in awe over a really big BM.

Congratulations Hoss. THIS is who's side you are now on. And also congrats on becoming the left's "sauerkraut" in this forum.
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