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« Reply #240 on: March 12, 2015, 06:48:22 am »

Sometimes the root cause is not as important as the secondary infection.

Walk through the woods anywhere in the country and you are likely to encounter thorns. Every year people die from Sporothrix schenckii, and a host of other infections carried by tens of thousands of plants with thorns. When I was a paramedic I watched a 8 year old boy die from an infection he got from a barberry bush outside the front door of his school.

The root cause was the prick, but the secondary infection resulted in death.

Thorns suck, but unfortunately they exist in nature. You can pull a few of them out of the ground but you will never eradicate them.

The secondary infection in Ferguson is not being treated, it is being nurtured, because people are afraid to name it.  Every system contains disease. The Fergurson police department, the Ferguson community, our government, and each individual.  Sometimes focusing on the root impedes your ability to treat the secondary infection.

The infection in Ferguson is massive, and spreading. In many cases it is being encouraged to spread for political reasons, because it fosters the destruction necessary for politicians and other madmen to feed.  The victims are the people anointed as minions, and given false justification for heinous action.

It will get worse as long as we continue to attempt to placate criminal action and martyr thugs. This is not a new thing.
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« Reply #241 on: March 12, 2015, 09:46:48 am »

Sometimes the root cause is not as important as the secondary infection.

Walk through the woods anywhere in the country and you are likely to encounter thorns. Every year people die from Sporothrix schenckii, and a host of other infections carried by tens of thousands of plants with thorns. When I was a paramedic I watched a 8 year old boy die from an infection he got from a barberry bush outside the front door of his school.

The root cause was the prick, but the secondary infection resulted in death.

Thorns suck, but unfortunately they exist in nature. You can pull a few of them out of the ground but you will never eradicate them.

The secondary infection in Ferguson is not being treated, it is being nurtured, because people are afraid to name it.  Every system contains disease. The Fergurson police department, the Ferguson community, our government, and each individual.  Sometimes focusing on the root impedes your ability to treat the secondary infection.

The infection in Ferguson is massive, and spreading. In many cases it is being encouraged to spread for political reasons, because it fosters the destruction necessary for politicians and other madmen to feed.  The victims are the people anointed as minions, and given false justification for heinous action.

It will get worse as long as we continue to attempt to placate criminal action and martyr thugs. This is not a new thing.


Except for the fact that you got it exactly reversed... if you want to call the interactions of police - a small microcosm of society in general - the "secondary infection", fine....it's just semantics.  And Ferguson is a small item of what has gone on in this country for a long time.

What is the bigger shame here is that people who have not been exposed (the upper X%...pick a number you like from 1 to 49...) don't understand what people who HAVE been exposed (the lower X%....again pick your own number...) have dealt with forever.  But hey, that must mean it really doesn't exist at all, right?

As for what has been done in the past to all the various lower X%, well you are right about that - we are likely never to get rid of all the thorns.  They keep popping up due to ignorance and stupidstition of all %'ers.

What the upper %'ers - and many of the lower %'ers want to do is parse and deflect and try to compartmentalize all effects so they can attach one "root cause" and thereby attempt to trivialize, demean and deflect what I mentioned earlier as the preponderence of evidence - the "straw the broke the camels back" - that constitutes the sum total of reactions.  Michael Brown was a punk, small time criminal who thought he was "sooo tough"...and wanted to prove how gangsta' he was.  He apparently was justifiably blown away for his actions.  Just so you and guido can understand - that is what is meant by earlier posts...read them again if not understood.

The one event is what triggered (the thorn?), but was not the root cause (the secondary infection?).  Backwards, but ok, let's go with that....  Sad that the RWRE can't understand that - it's the focused, lasered training from Rupert and Friends... Fox and Friends that installs the blinders for them...  They actually DO understand, but that doesn't fit The Script, so must be attacked and eliminated if possible.

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« Reply #242 on: March 12, 2015, 11:24:57 am »


You should be relieved the two were released from the hospital a few hours later with shrapnel wounds, so now you can devote your attention to all the Americans who were shot this week that didnt survive.

No one should be shooting at anybody, but thats too simple.
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« Reply #243 on: March 12, 2015, 11:32:43 am »

You should be relieved the two were released from the hospital a few hours later with shrapnel wounds, so now you can devote your attention to all the Americans who were shot this week that didnt survive.

No one should be shooting at anybody, but thats too simple.

How could it be shrapnel when reports state one of the officers still has a bullet lodged behind his left ear.  A little insensitive I think..
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« Reply #244 on: March 12, 2015, 12:34:30 pm »

How could it be shrapnel when reports state one of the officers still has a bullet lodged behind his left ear.  A little insensitive I think..


I had a bullet in my nose one time that eventually worked it's way out...that one behind his left ear may do the same... maybe it will work its way down to his mouth and he can spit it out Terminator style!!


Good news they are going to be ok!  Too bad they didn't catch the shooter at the time!  Sounds like they have leads AND cooperation from the community.  Perhaps the DOJ exoneration of the cop and the report will let most people (civilian and cop) start looking at ways to help the situation instead of making it worse.
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« Reply #245 on: March 12, 2015, 01:09:44 pm »

You should be relieved the two were released from the hospital a few hours later with shrapnel wounds, so now you can devote your attention to all the Americans who were shot this week that didnt survive.

No one should be shooting at anybody, but thats too simple.

I didn't mean to interrupt your celebrating--I mean even though they were not killed. Here ya go.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M[/youtube]
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« Reply #246 on: March 12, 2015, 03:52:41 pm »

I didn't mean to interrupt your celebrating--I mean even though they were not killed. Here ya go.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M[/youtube]

I really like that song.
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« Reply #247 on: March 12, 2015, 04:47:07 pm »

First this....

http://donofalltrades.com/2015/03/12/a-senseless-death/


Then this....

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/year-old-boy-fatally-shot-in-rolling-st-louis-gunbattle/article_4c0a7015-e591-5c8b-8ec0-9781e2472c30.html


Yesterday evening.

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« Reply #248 on: March 12, 2015, 05:01:58 pm »

I really like that song.

I bet.
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« Reply #249 on: March 12, 2015, 05:06:11 pm »

Here is reportedly video taken at the time of the shooting--for the likes of patric. Sounds like an officer is the one in agony.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvubFsGh6Rs[/youtube]


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« Reply #250 on: March 12, 2015, 05:21:41 pm »

Here is reportedly video taken at the time of the shooting--for the likes of patric.

I can make no sense of the last statement.  Perhaps there is none.


...but if were sharing video...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5llTSYN0L1E[/youtube]

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« Reply #251 on: March 12, 2015, 05:27:21 pm »

^^^Hope you are having one heck of a party!!!!
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« Reply #252 on: March 13, 2015, 07:19:40 pm »

^^^Hope you are having one heck of a party!!!!



New shooting in Ferguson sets right wing shrieking
http://www.kentucky.com/2015/03/13/3745566/mary-sanchez-new-shooting-in-ferguson.html

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« Reply #253 on: March 14, 2015, 05:10:12 pm »



You missed one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/shooting-in-metro-system-dc-police-say/2015/03/12/8f3abf6e-c921-11e4-b2a1-bed1aaea2816_story.html

Averaging three a day, but because they are killed by police, their lives cease to matter.
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« Reply #254 on: March 14, 2015, 05:20:32 pm »

The response is well worth talking about. 

A society is in decay when it makes makes martyrs out of madmen.



Here's part of the problem:  A right-wing extremist career politician (and Fox And Friends regular) tweeting pictures of burned bodies and saying the president and AG are out to destroy America, because in his world the only alternative to devolving police practices is anarchy.

http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/Sheriff-Clarke-tweets-graphic-photo-in-response-to-political-website-295444511.html

The police unions and the RWE are milking this for maximum value, but the reality is that one fool with a gun isnt going to slow the much needed momentum of police reform.
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