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« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2014, 01:15:04 am »

I think Sara Whaley sounds like she needs a field sobriety test done on her. Was she getting her story in the bar a getting shots?

Also sounds like Smoot is going Tom Cruise from Minority Report, arrest them before they do something wrong.
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« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2014, 11:33:11 am »

I think Sara Whaley sounds like she needs a field sobriety test done on her. Was she getting her story in the bar a getting shots?
Also sounds like Smoot is going Tom Cruise from Minority Report, arrest them before they do something wrong.

Might as well prevent them from getting intoxicated in the first place.  Arrest everyone going into the bar.   Angry
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« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2014, 02:16:44 pm »

Can't be intoxicated in a local bar? That would pretty much shut them all down.

Last nite in midtown/downtown between 10:30 and 2:30 there were more cabs, limos, wreckers and patrol cars moving on the road than there were citizens. Seriously, it was weird. They could have arrested practically every pedestrian I saw as well.

Safe? Yeah, I guess. Citizenry scared drinkless? No.

Tulsa, now known locally as Smooterville.
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« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2014, 07:18:53 pm »

So, will the next step in the state of "Smooterville" be they arrest you walking out of a liquor store, grocery store, because you have alcohol in your possession and you are in public, even though you aren't consuming it, yet you have it in your possession? Hey, by the way Smoot, just shut down every restaurant that serves alcohol as well.

Hey Smoot, great way to get people to want to move to the state. Why don't you just enact prohibition? (tongue in cheek comments)
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« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2014, 07:37:30 pm »

How did this guy ever get to be the face of ABLE?
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« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2014, 08:03:16 pm »

How did this guy ever get to be the face of ABLE?

He was probably appointment by the officials that were elected. And with the extreme conservatism, anti smoking, anti drinking factions that have been in Oklahoma since before WWII, and the bully pulpit of the RWRE, who happen to be some of the biggest two faced "Do as I say, not as I do" since Oral Roberts. These are the same people who spoke of the sin of the Lottery and Indian Casinos, but now welcome them with open arms.

Would love to see Smoot and his jackboot thugs go into one of the casinos to check the intoxication level of the patrons there.
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« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2014, 08:38:14 pm »

He was probably appointment by the officials that were elected. And with the extreme conservatism, anti smoking, anti drinking factions that have been in Oklahoma since before WWII, and the bully pulpit of the RWRE, who happen to be some of the biggest two faced "Do as I say, not as I do" since Oral Roberts. These are the same people who spoke of the sin of the Lottery and Indian Casinos, but now welcome them with open arms.

Would love to see Smoot and his jackboot thugs go into one of the casinos to check the intoxication level of the patrons there.

Just wondering because I know someone who knew him as a Bixby cop and doesn't have a high opinion of him. Has always seemed odd to me that he went from small town cop to the face of the anti-booze Gestapo.
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« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2014, 09:39:23 pm »

Has always seemed odd to me that he went from small town cop to the face of the anti-booze Gestapo.

Probably not so odd in this part of the world. 
 
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« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2014, 12:04:25 am »

So, will the next step in the state of "Smooterville" be they arrest you walking out of a liquor store, grocery store, because you have alcohol in your possession and you are in public, even though you aren't consuming it, yet you have it in your possession?

It might be called "endeavoring,"  which has a much lower threshold of proof than "intent to."
Also, it's my understanding that sworn DPS positions (like OHP and ABLE) are either nepotism or cronyism, where you are elevated to the "golden circle" by political favors.   Being exempt from most accountability (Open Records, etc.) just perpetuates that system.
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« Reply #54 on: January 02, 2014, 02:07:20 am »

It might be called "endeavoring,"  which has a much lower threshold of proof than "intent to."
Also, it's my understanding that sworn DPS positions (like OHP and ABLE) are either nepotism or cronyism, where you are elevated to the "golden circle" by political favors.   Being exempt from most accountability (Open Records, etc.) just perpetuates that system.

I thought you got elevated not only by nepotism, but the also reliable "It's not what you know, but who you know and who you  _ _ _ _."
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« Reply #55 on: January 02, 2014, 08:37:39 am »

Mr White. You are under arrest for being drunk in "Public"
Hey, Hey, Hey. I was drunk in a bar. Which is perfectly "legal"
They, Them. Threw me into "Public" Arrest them!
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« Reply #56 on: January 02, 2014, 09:50:57 am »

Mr White. You are under arrest for being drunk in "Public"
Hey, Hey, Hey. I was drunk in a bar. Which is perfectly "legal"
They, Them. Threw me into "Public" Arrest them!

Ron White. That's always good for a laugh. 

Mr White. You are under arrest for being drunk in "Public"
Hey, Hey, Hey. I was drunk in a bar. Which is perfectly "legal"
They, Them. Threw me into "Public" Arrest them!

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« Reply #57 on: January 02, 2014, 11:22:22 am »

It might be called "endeavoring,"  which has a much lower threshold of proof than "intent to."
Also, it's my understanding that sworn DPS positions (like OHP and ABLE) are either nepotism or cronyism, where you are elevated to the "golden circle" by political favors.   Being exempt from most accountability (Open Records, etc.) just perpetuates that system.

That was how Easley ended up on ABLE, I believe his mother was a state legislator at the time.  Then I believe he went on to the GRDA board.
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« Reply #58 on: January 02, 2014, 11:25:57 am »

Can't be intoxicated in a local bar? That would pretty much shut them all down.

Last nite in midtown/downtown between 10:30 and 2:30 there were more cabs, limos, wreckers and patrol cars moving on the road than there were citizens. Seriously, it was weird. They could have arrested practically every pedestrian I saw as well.

Safe? Yeah, I guess. Citizenry scared drinkless? No.

Tulsa, now known locally as Smooterville.

And every bartender is committing a felony when they serve an intoxicated person.   Roll Eyes

We got some strange laws in this state.
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« Reply #59 on: January 02, 2014, 02:14:31 pm »

And every bartender is committing a felony when they serve an intoxicated person.   Roll Eyes

We got some strange laws in this state.

If someone is intoxicated, though it likely reflects bad judgement on their part that they got to that point, it would seem even worse a wrong if the person who is supposed to be responsible, the server, then gives a person that they can see is intoxicated, and who very likely now does have impaired judgment, even more alcohol (drinking to the point of intoxication is very bad for a persons health and to turn a blind eye to that and enable the person to even further harm themselves, when their judgment is also impaired)… would at least seem wrong and immoral.  Whether it should be against the law depends on your perspective on whether such "wrong" things should be made against the law.
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