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« Reply #180 on: March 06, 2015, 08:49:24 pm »

It's not spam, it's "activism".
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« Reply #181 on: April 07, 2015, 07:12:17 pm »

BOSTON (AP) — Some police officers involved in tracking down the Boston Marathon bombers days after the attacks showed a lack of "weapons discipline" during a firefight with the brothers and in the eventual capture of one of them, resulting in dangerous crossfire, according to a report released Friday.

The 130-page report by the Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency, nearly two years in the making, examined all aspects of the response to the bombing that killed three people and wounded more than 260 others.

A transit police officer, Richard Donohue, was critically wounded in the initial confrontation with Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev on a Watertown street April 19, 2013. The report doesn't say whether Donohue was shot by fellow officers.

The report also reveals that shortly after the shootout, which led to Tamerlan Tsarnaev's death, an officer near the scene fired on an unmarked state police vehicle after it was mistakenly reported as stolen. A state trooper and a Boston police officer in the vehicle weren't injured.

Later in the day, when Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was discovered wounded and hiding in a boat, a police officer "fired his weapon without appropriate authority," causing many other officers to believe the bomber was firing at them and leading them to open fire on the boat, according to the report.

The report praises many other aspects of the emergency response to the April 15, 2013, bombings at the finish line of the marathon, particularly the response of medical personnel at the scene and Boston hospitals who treated gravely injured victims. While three died at the scene, every victim who was transported to a hospital survived.

"Overall, the response to the Boston Marathon bombings must be considered a great success," the report stated.

The shootout with the suspects in Watertown followed the fatal shooting of Sean Collier, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer, and a carjacking in Cambridge.

"Although initial responding officers practiced appropriate weapons discipline while they were engaged in the firefight with the suspects, additional officers arriving on scene near the conclusion of the firefight fired weapons toward the vicinity of the suspects, without necessarily having identified and lined up their target," or appropriately aiming their guns, the report said.

"Officers lining both sides of the street also fired upon the second suspect as he fled the scene in a vehicle," the report went on to state. A timeline of events listed in the report noted that the transit officer was shot as the surviving suspect fled.

The report doesn't name any of the officers from several agencies and jurisdictions that were involved in the Watertown incidents.

There was also a lack of coordination and management of the more than 2,500 law enforcement officers who converged on a staging area at a shopping mall in Watertown during the day, many of whom "self-deployed," according to the report.


http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/report-lack-of-gun-discipline-when-marathon-bombers-found/article_30f05724-652a-5083-92c9-a8712d662cb6.html


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« Reply #182 on: April 07, 2015, 09:32:33 pm »

So I guess the proper solution to the Tsarnaev brothers was to keep reading “Goldilox And The Three Bears” through a bullhorn until they came to their senses and surrendered?
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« Reply #183 on: April 08, 2015, 12:43:02 am »

Yeah, it's a little tough to control things when people are lobbing pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs like hand grenades, and shooting at you like it's a war zone in eastern Europe or the middle east. Shame on these officers that may have never been in a combat situation or firefight for pulling their weapons in defense of themselves. Guess they should all be prosecuted, convicted and sentenced for their actions. 
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« Reply #184 on: April 08, 2015, 06:12:31 am »

Mo spam.....
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« Reply #185 on: May 04, 2015, 10:54:33 am »

It struck me as odd the defendant's family all have to wear ankle bracelets now.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/boston-bombing-trial/feds-turned-away-tsarnaev-relative-whod-hoped-attend-trial-n353281
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« Reply #186 on: June 02, 2015, 06:10:47 pm »

History repeating itself?

A Boston police officer has shot and killed a man who had been under surveillance by the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force, ABC News has learned.
The FBI had been tracking the man for several weeks, and authorities are looking into whether he may have been radicalized by ISIS propaganda online, law enforcement sources said.

An officer and an FBI agent approached the suspect at about 7 a.m. today in the parking lot of a CVS in Roslindale, Massachusetts, police said. The suspect then pulled a "military-style knife," prompting numerous commands from the officer and FBI agent to drop the weapon. But when the suspect refused, both the officer and FBI agent opened fire, officials said.



....or he was sitting at his bus stop going to work when he was approached by police, and was on his phone with a family member when he was shot three times in the back.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Oakland-imam-says-Boston-cops-shot-his-brother-in-6302869.php



Smells a lot like:

The Boston FBI agent who fatally shot a Chechen friend of Tamerlan Tsarnaev in Florida last year had a brief and troubled past at the Oakland Police Department in California. In four years, Officer #8313 took the Fifth at a police corruption trial and was the subject of two police brutality lawsuits and four internal affairs investigations. He retired from the department in 2004 at age 31.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/05/13/fbi-shooter-had-stormy-record-officer/7zJ1ha78Z0SpfDey0PBuJJ/story.html
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« Reply #187 on: June 05, 2015, 09:23:13 am »

Sounds like but not the same. Unless the entire Boston pd, FBI and the press is corrupt, there appears to have been video shared with the press on this one. Phone records indicated he was not talking to family and the video clearly showed him aggressively moving towards several police.

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« Reply #188 on: June 05, 2015, 10:37:03 am »

More dead scum....Good work I say........
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« Reply #189 on: June 05, 2015, 10:50:04 am »



Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.

Unless it’s a Lewinsky.
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« Reply #190 on: June 05, 2015, 10:54:27 am »

Always with the politics. Cheesy Really surprised no one has marketed a cigar under that name.
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« Reply #191 on: June 05, 2015, 07:01:22 pm »

Sounds like but not the same. Unless the entire Boston pd, FBI and the press is corrupt, there appears to have been video shared with the press on this one.



Boston Officials Move Quickly to Share Video in Suspect’s Shooting

Officials had vowed after a fatal shooting by the police in March to release any surveillance video as quickly as possible, and this was the first chance to exercise the policy.
Within 24 hours, the Boston police commissioner, William Evans, and the Suffolk County district attorney, Daniel F. Conley, had gathered a select group and played a video from a surveillance camera at Burger King near the shooting.

With shootings of black men by police officers across the country setting off violence and racial strife, the authorities here have made a concerted effort to defuse potential tinderbox situations as quickly as possible. The effort is in sharp contrast to what has occurred in cities like Ferguson, Mo., North Charleston, S.C., and Baltimore, where a lack of information often helped to fan the unrest.

“The first rule — and something that was reinforced by Ferguson, where this was not done — is that when you have a shooting, you get as much information out as quickly as possible,” said Raymond W. Kelly, the former New York City police commissioner.

“This example shows why those cameras often benefit the police,” said Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the law school at the University of California, Irvine.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/05/us/in-usaama-rahim-shooting-boston-officials-move-quickly-to-share-video.html



It’s “transparency by invitation,” said Matthew Segal, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts.

“If a video can be shown to some members of the public, then there is no reason to keep it from any members of the public,” said Segal. “And if public officials can hand pick who gets to see a video of someone being killed or harmed by an officer, then they will inevitably make choices that serve public relations interests rather than actual transparency.”


https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/06/04/after-usaama-rahim-shooting-ferguson-and-baltimore-police-transparency-requires-open-invitation/MSumEeKrO0oDdYFJdf08VO/story.html


Translation:  If the video makes us look good, release it quickly; if it doesnt make us look good, send it to the lab until it does."



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