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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2012, 11:09:36 pm »

Well yes, that would be one option.

One option that wouldn't surprise me, given the foot-stamping going on from some conservative business owners.
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2012, 07:59:57 am »

One option that wouldn't surprise me, given the foot-stamping going on from some conservative business owners.

They've line up consultations with Chick-fil-a's people.
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2012, 10:52:39 am »

Hobby Lobby Appeals Morning-After Pill Decision

http://kwgs.com/post/hobby-lobby-appeals-morning-after-pill-decision

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OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — An Oklahoma City-based arts and crafts chain has formally appealed a federal judge's rejection of its request to block part of the federal health care overhaul that requires it to provide insurance coverage for the morning-after and week-after birth control pills.

Online records of the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals indicate Hobby Lobby Stores Inc. appealed the ruling on Tuesday. U.S. District Judge Joe Heaton handed down the ruling on Monday.

Hobby Lobby and a sister company, Mardel Inc., sued the government in September, claiming the mandate violates the owners' religious beliefs.

The owners contend the morning-after and week-after pills are tantamount to abortion because they can prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in a woman's womb. They also object to providing coverage for certain kinds of intrauterine devices.
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2012, 11:16:01 am »

Hobby Lobby Appeals Morning-After Pill Decision

http://kwgs.com/post/hobby-lobby-appeals-morning-after-pill-decision


I think I might pass out of not-surprised.
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2012, 07:37:19 pm »

Hobby Lobby Appeals Morning-After Pill Decision

http://kwgs.com/post/hobby-lobby-appeals-morning-after-pill-decision

You mean to tell me that an aggrieved entity is using the appellate process to have its objections heard? I cannot believe that. That never happens.
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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2012, 07:47:15 pm »

You mean to tell me that an aggrieved entity is using the appellate process to have its objections heard? I cannot believe that. That never happens.

They need to get a prohibit copulation clause inserted into state law and go with the premise that you just can't throw that out there because it's swimmin' for the egg. These Federal judges are too dang librel.
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2012, 09:32:28 pm »

You mean to tell me that an aggrieved entity is using the appellate process to have its objections heard? I cannot believe that. That never happens.

When will you ever learn the diode/check valve principle?  Appellate process is only legitimate when initiated by the left.

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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2012, 09:35:28 pm »

They need to get a prohibit copulation clause inserted into state law

It may already be there from our earlier days in the beginning of the 20th Century.
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2012, 11:36:36 pm »

When will you ever learn the diode/check valve principle?  Appellate process is only legitimate when initiated by the left.



There is such an @ssload of truth in that comment. 
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2012, 09:23:42 pm »

There is such an @ssload of truth in that comment. 

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« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2012, 04:43:53 pm »

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OKLAHOMA CITY - A federal appeals court in Denver has denied an appeal by retail chain Hobby Lobby Stores Inc. to temporarily halt enforcement of a federal health care law that requires insurance coverage for some types of contraception.
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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2013, 11:59:46 am »

Domino's owner gets an injunction.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/legal-challenges/275015-judge-halts-birth-control-policy-for-dominos-founder
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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2013, 12:47:14 pm »

Here's the text of a letter (alleged) from CEO Green from Hobby Lobby I saw on FB:

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A Letter from Hobby Lobby Stores CEO
By David Green, the founder and CEO of Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.

When my family and I started our company 40 years ago, we
were working out of a garage on a $600 bank loan, assembling miniature picture frames. Our first retail store wasn't much bigger than most people's living rooms, but we had faith that we would succeed if we lived and worked according to God's word. From there,Hobby Lobby has become one of the nation's largest arts and crafts retailers, with more than 500 locations in 41 states. Our children grew up into fine business leaders, and today we run Hobby Lobby together, as a family.

We're Christians, and we run our business on Christian principles. I've always said that the first two goals of our business are (1) to run our business in harmony with God's laws, and (2) to focus on people more than money. And that's what we've tried to do. We close early so our employees can see their families at night. We keep our stores closed on Sundays, one of the week's biggest shopping days, so that our workers and their families can enjoy a day of rest. We believe that it is by God's grace that Hobby Lobby has endured, and he has blessed us and our employees. We've not only added jobs in a weak economy, we've raised wages for the past four years in a row. Our full-time employees start at 80% above minimum wage.

But now, our government threatens to change all of that. A new government health care mandate says that our family business MUST provide what I believe are abortion-causing drugs as part of our health insurance. Being Christians, we don't pay for drugs that might cause abortions, which means that we don't cover emergency contraception, the morning-after pill or the week-after pill. We believe doing so might end a life after the moment of conception, something that is contrary to our most important beliefs. It goes against the Biblical principles on which we have run this company since day one. If we refuse to comply, we could face $1.3 million PER DAY in government fines.

Our government threatens to fine job creators in a bad economy. Our government threatens to fine a company that's raised wages four years running. Our government threatens to fine a family for running its business according to its beliefs. It's not right. I know people will say we ought to follow the rules; that it's the same for everybody. But that's not true. The government has exempted thousands of companies from this mandate, for reasons of convenience or cost. But it won't exempt them for reasons of religious belief.

So, Hobby Lobby and my family are forced to make a choice. With great reluctance, we filed a lawsuit today, represented by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, asking a federal court to stop this mandate before it hurts our business. We don't like to go running into court, but we no longer have a choice. We believe people are more important than the bottom line and that honoring God is more important than turning a profit.

My family has lived the American dream. We want to continue growing our company and providing great jobs for thousands of employees, but the government is going to make that much more difficult. The government is forcing us to choose between following our faith and following the law. I say that's a choice no American and no American business should have to make.
The government cannot force you to follow laws that go against your fundamental religious belief. They have exempted thousands of companies but will not except Christian organizations including the Catholic church.

Since you will not see this covered in any of the liberal media, pass this on to all your contacts.
Sincerely,
David Green, CEO and Founder of Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.
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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2013, 01:48:56 pm »

Here's the text of a letter (alleged) from CEO Green from Hobby Lobby I saw on FB:


http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/hobbylobby.asp
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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2013, 03:40:56 pm »


Thanks.
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