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« on: June 21, 2012, 03:39:26 pm » |
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Just glancing at the members of the TMAPC, and wondering why Gail Carnes has been serving on the planning commission since 1984? Isn't 28 years a long time to exert influence like that? Aren't republicans generallly in favor of term limits over lifetime appointments?
I don't have a specific gripe against Mr Carnes (well, aside from the typical TMAPC lack of imagination and an overly narrow developer-centric perspective). Just wondering. Really? There's nobody else in town to fill the role and bring in some fresh perspectives?
If I were a YP, I'd be sort of worried about someone who had been making these decisions about Tulsa's future longer than I had been alive!
Anybody remember 1984?
Movies:
1. Beverly Hills Cop
2. Ghostbuster
3. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
4. Gremlins
5. The Karate Kid
6. Police Academy
7. Footloose
8. Romancing The Stone
9. Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
10. Splash
1984 Most Popular TV shows:
1. Dynasty (ABC)
2. Dallas (CBS)
3. The Cosby Show (NBC)
4. 60 Minutes (CBS)
5. Family Ties (NBC)
6. The A-Team (NBC)
7. Simon & Simon (CBS)
8. Murder, She Wrote (CBS)
9. Knots Landing (CBS)
10. Falcon Crest (CBS)
1984 Billboard
Number One Songs:
December 10, 1983 - January 20, 1984:
Say Say Say - Paul McCartney featuring Michael Jackson
January 21 - February 3:
Owner of a Lonely Heart - Yes
February 4 - February 24:
Karma Chameleon - Culture Club
February 25 - March 20:
Jump - Van Halen
March 31 - April 20:
Footloose - Kenny Loggins
April 21 - May 11:
Against All Odds (Take A Look At Me Now) - Phil Collins
May 12 - May 25:
Hello - Lionel Richie
May 26 - June 8:
Let's Hear It For the Boy - Deniece Williams
June 9 - June 22:
Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper
June 23 - July 6:
The Reflex - Duran Duran
July 7 - August 10:
When Doves Cry - Prince
August 11 - August 31:
Ghostbusters - Ray Parker, Jr.
September 1 - September 21:
What's Love Got to Do With It - Tina Turner
September 22 - September 28:
Missing You - John Waite
September 29 - October 12:
Let's Go Crazy - Prince & The Revolution
October 13 - November 2:
I Just Called To Say I Love You - Stevie Wonder
November 3 - November 16:
Caribbean Queen (No More Love On the Run) - Billy Ocean
November 17 - December 7:
Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go - Wham!
December 8 - December 21:
Out of Touch - Hall & Oates
December 22, 1984 - February 1, 1985:
Like a Virgin - Madonna
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dsjeffries
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2012, 03:53:54 pm » |
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Just glancing at the members of the TMAPC, and wondering why Gail Carnes has been serving on the planning commission since 1984? Isn't 28 years a long time to exert influence like that? Aren't republicans generallly in favor of term limits over lifetime appointments?
I don't have a specific gripe against Mr Carnes (well, aside from the typical TMAPC lack of imagination and an overly narrow developer-centric perspective). Just wondering. Really? There's nobody else in town to fill the role and bring in some fresh perspectives?
If I were a YP, I'd be sort of worried about someone who had been making these decisions about Tulsa's future longer than I had been alive!
I agree. I don't know the fine details about how TMAPC appointments are made or the reconfirmation process (if there even is one), but a lifetime appointment to a post that is intended to drive the city forward seems counter-intuitive to say the least. Do they have set terms? If so, are the terms staggered? Or do they have their post as long as they want it? And perhaps you don't have any particular gripes about any one member right now, but those people's voting records on zoning/land use issues (for the past 30 years, apparently) aren't exactly easy to access.   |
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Conan71
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2012, 04:40:35 pm » |
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Just glancing at the members of the TMAPC, and wondering why Gail Carnes has been serving on the planning commission since 1984? Isn't 28 years a long time to exert influence like that? Aren't republicans generallly in favor of term limits over lifetime appointments?
I don't have a specific gripe against Mr Carnes (well, aside from the typical TMAPC lack of imagination and an overly narrow developer-centric perspective). Just wondering. Really? There's nobody else in town to fill the role and bring in some fresh perspectives?
If I were a YP, I'd be sort of worried about someone who had been making these decisions about Tulsa's future longer than I had been alive!
Anybody remember 1984?
Movies:
1. Beverly Hills Cop
2. Ghostbuster
3. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
4. Gremlins
5. The Karate Kid
6. Police Academy
7. Footloose
8. Romancing The Stone
9. Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
10. Splash
1984 Most Popular TV shows:
1. Dynasty (ABC)
2. Dallas (CBS)
3. The Cosby Show (NBC)
4. 60 Minutes (CBS)
5. Family Ties (NBC)
6. The A-Team (NBC)
7. Simon & Simon (CBS)
8. Murder, She Wrote (CBS)
9. Knots Landing (CBS)
10. Falcon Crest (CBS)
1984 Billboard
Number One Songs:
December 10, 1983 - January 20, 1984:
Say Say Say - Paul McCartney featuring Michael Jackson
January 21 - February 3:
Owner of a Lonely Heart - Yes
February 4 - February 24:
Karma Chameleon - Culture Club
February 25 - March 20:
Jump - Van Halen
March 31 - April 20:
Footloose - Kenny Loggins
April 21 - May 11:
Against All Odds (Take A Look At Me Now) - Phil Collins
May 12 - May 25:
Hello - Lionel Richie
May 26 - June 8:
Let's Hear It For the Boy - Deniece Williams
June 9 - June 22:
Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper
June 23 - July 6:
The Reflex - Duran Duran
July 7 - August 10:
When Doves Cry - Prince
August 11 - August 31:
Ghostbusters - Ray Parker, Jr.
September 1 - September 21:
What's Love Got to Do With It - Tina Turner
September 22 - September 28:
Missing You - John Waite
September 29 - October 12:
Let's Go Crazy - Prince & The Revolution
October 13 - November 2:
I Just Called To Say I Love You - Stevie Wonder
November 3 - November 16:
Caribbean Queen (No More Love On the Run) - Billy Ocean
November 17 - December 7:
Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go - Wham!
December 8 - December 21:
Out of Touch - Hall & Oates
December 22, 1984 - February 1, 1985:
Like a Virgin - Madonna
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"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first” -Ronald Reagan
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sgrizzle
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2012, 05:30:28 pm » |
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I don't remember it that well.. but I was 8 after all.
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jacobi
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2012, 05:32:14 pm » |
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I don't remember it that well.. but I was 8 after all. I was 2... |
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Hoss
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2012, 05:49:10 pm » |
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I was 2...
I was a junior and senior in highschool. I have half of those songs on my iPod now...wait.... |
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Global warming isn't real because it was cold today. Also great news: world famine is over because I just ate - Stephen Colbert.
Somebody find Guido an ambulance to chase...
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2012, 06:19:52 pm » |
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I was 2...
Thanks, I feel old now, I was dating my 2nd future ex wife at the time........ |
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jacobi
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2012, 06:35:51 pm » |
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Thanks, I feel old now, I was dating my 2nd future ex wife at the time........ Well I'm not 30 yet (26 days) and i'm separated from my second wife. Do you feel younger or just wiser?  |
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Red Arrow
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2012, 07:07:59 pm » |
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1984? Seems like yesterday. When I read Orwell's "1984", it was still years in the future. Are you guys old enough to post?  |
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Hoss
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2012, 07:21:13 pm » |
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Well I'm not 30 yet (26 days) and i'm separated from my second wife. Do you feel younger or just wiser? Wow. I'm one time married, one time divorced. I've been liberated now for 19 years. I had one other try and rope me back into that mess in 1997. I almost fell for it. Glad I didn't. "Know why divorces are so expensive? Because they're worth it". |
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Libertarianism is a system of beliefs for people who think adolescence is the epitome of human achievement.
Global warming isn't real because it was cold today. Also great news: world famine is over because I just ate - Stephen Colbert.
Somebody find Guido an ambulance to chase...
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Red Arrow
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2012, 07:23:59 pm » |
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Wow. I'm one time married, one time divorced. I've been liberated now for 19 years. I had one other try and rope me back into that mess in 1997. I almost fell for it. Glad I didn't.
"Know why divorces are so expensive? Because they're worth it".
Marriage is the leading cause of divorce. |
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heironymouspasparagus
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2012, 07:35:48 pm » |
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Well I'm not 30 yet (26 days) and i'm separated from my second wife. Do you feel younger or just wiser? Maybe a time out from wives is in order.... Most of you are kids!! Enjoy it while you got it - it goes WAY too fast. |
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2012, 07:37:32 pm » |
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1984? Seems like yesterday. When I read Orwell's "1984", it was still years in the future. Are you guys old enough to post? No kidding... now it's years in the past! "There are three stages in your reintegration . . . There is learning, there is understanding, and there is acceptance" (1984) |
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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jacobi
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2012, 07:41:36 pm » |
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Maybe a time out from wives is in order.... +1 |
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heironymouspasparagus
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2012, 07:43:20 pm » |
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+1
Will save you a ton of money!! |
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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