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« Reply #285 on: January 08, 2014, 08:49:59 am » |
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Gee Nate, thanks for wrecking the thread with this image:
We aim to please! ![Grin](http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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« Reply #286 on: January 08, 2014, 02:23:04 pm » |
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Making it legal may a good thing for these states, and maybe more states until there is a national reform, but it doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of employers that drug test as a pre-hire, random test, or test after an incident still consider it a banned substance, and I doubt the employers in these states that are national employers are going to give residents in Washington and Colorado a pass while enforcing it in other states.
Yes, I know alcohol is part of the screening process, and also now employers are using hair samples to check for drugs and nicotine as part of the screening process.
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« Reply #287 on: January 08, 2014, 03:57:32 pm » |
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Making it legal may a good thing for these states, and maybe more states until there is a national reform, but it doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of employers that drug test as a pre-hire, random test, or test after an incident still consider it a banned substance, and I doubt the employers in these states that are national employers are going to give residents in Washington and Colorado a pass while enforcing it in other states.
Yes, I know alcohol is part of the screening process, and also now employers are using hair samples to check for drugs and nicotine as part of the screening process.
You see (and point out) one of the problems with the shift in power from a stronger Federal government to the "Laissez Faire" approach Fox News would want us to take...they advocate Laissez Faire ONLY for big business, though. Keep the Feds out of business and let them do as they please.
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« Reply #288 on: January 08, 2014, 06:43:19 pm » |
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Making it legal may a good thing for these states, and maybe more states until there is a national reform
Add another: ALBANY, N.Y.—Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday he would move to make medical marijuana available to patients with serious illnesses, making New York the latest state to ease restrictions on the drug.
Currently, 21 states and the District of Columbia allow the use of marijuana for certain medical purposes.“I’m an unlikely champion for this cause,” said Georgia Rep. Allen Peake, a businessman from Macon who attended the evangelical Dallas Theological Seminary. “Once people realize it’s not a 6-year-old smoking a joint, most folks realize this is the compassionate thing to do.”http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/medical-marijuana-gains-traction-in-the-deep-south/2014/02/09/f0720630-919f-11e3-97d3-f7da321f6f33_story.html
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« Reply #289 on: January 08, 2014, 10:40:33 pm » |
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It willl be interesting how this plays out over the next couple of years. From an article in HuffPo, they sold $5million in the first week, and their projection is that the state will bring in an estimated $70mil in taxes the first year. (enough to cover the tax incentives for three Macy's DC's) I'll bet that tax revenue will decline after the newness wears off, and the possibility of other states making recreational use legal. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/08/marijuana-sales-colorado_n_4552371.htmlI have been in favor of legalize, regulate from seed to sale, and tax marijuana since I was in high school in the late 70's, back when it was one of the biggest cash crops in OK. My thought on the whole thing is that as long as it remains a class one narcotic at the federal level, it is by law a controlled substance, and if the fed is going to turn a blind eye to states legalizing the recreational sale, they need to get off their collective butts and change it's status. Employers are going to have to wrestle with how to handle it, and as I said previously, I bet national companies, Home Depot, Lowes, department stores etc, will continue to say that it is part of their drug screening process for employees and any positive test can lead to termination regardless of state law. Personally I haven't in 30+ years, because I realized my lively hood was more important. Maybe this is the time to change it, I think that it's long overdue.
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« Reply #290 on: January 22, 2014, 12:41:34 pm » |
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Maybe this is the time to change it, I think that it's long overdue.
...But it's the #1 concern of the state narcos: Mark Woodward, with the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics, said, “I’ve seen it wreck more lives than any other drug.”http://kfor.com/2014/01/20/senator-pushes-for-legalization-of-marijuanaOK, thats a pretty insulated existence. Time to get out of the gated community and see how many schools and roads really need their funding back.
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« Reply #291 on: January 22, 2014, 01:26:15 pm » |
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...But it's the #1 concern of the state narcos: Mark Woodward, with the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics, said, “I’ve seen it wreck more lives than any other drug.”http://kfor.com/2014/01/20/senator-pushes-for-legalization-of-marijuanaOK, thats a pretty insulated existence. Time to get out of the gated community and see how many schools and roads really need their funding back. Does Woodward realize alcohol is a drug? That’s wrecked more lives than any other.
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« Reply #292 on: January 22, 2014, 01:54:52 pm » |
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Does Woodward realize alcohol is a drug? That’s wrecked more lives than any other.
Probably not, and he will also tell you the same the next time he's mildly smootfaced at his own cocktail party.
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« Reply #293 on: January 23, 2014, 03:14:19 pm » |
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Nancy Grace debates.....Nancy Grace?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHRb_t053SQ[/youtube]
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« Reply #294 on: January 23, 2014, 03:25:57 pm » |
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Nancy Grace debates.....Nancy Grace?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHRb_t053SQ[/youtube]
“She took six hundred peeeeels!” Nancy Grace after Anna Nicole self immolated.
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« Reply #295 on: January 24, 2014, 12:03:09 pm » |
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Probably not, and he will also tell you the same the next time he's mildly smootfaced at his own cocktail party.
#winning As for former prosecutor Nancy Grace... http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/nancy-grace/n45301/and the smoking (ahem) gun: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Bqob-weFk[/youtube]
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« Reply #296 on: January 24, 2014, 12:35:54 pm » |
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I think Mason’s choice in munchies must be Twinkies
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« Reply #297 on: February 11, 2014, 11:55:14 pm » |
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« Reply #298 on: February 12, 2014, 11:30:51 am » |
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Just decriminalize it altogether and skip the backdoor approach with medical MJ.
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« Reply #299 on: February 12, 2014, 01:20:35 pm » |
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Just decriminalize it altogether and skip the backdoor approach with medical MJ.
Im willing to wait and see if we have the maturity to show compassion to suffering children.
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