Another stab at liquor law reform

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And yet (as with other topics), even though there is near universal agreement, we as a state keep electing the same clowns that don't change the laws.
Anyone surprised by the results?

Yes.  Microsoft has taught me that doing the same thing again and again often leads to different results.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Yes.  Microsoft has taught me that doing the same thing again and again often leads to different results.

That's Microsoft.  Not the rest of the real world...

We have been this way before Microsoft existed.  Shoot, even before Bill Gates existed.  Just like the idiots that kept electing Gene Stipe, we keep electing you-know-who, plus the state clown club down the road there in OKC.  Sally Kern, et. al.

[TulsaRufnex]

Trader joes?  although I think they are really corny, people seem to realy like them.

Problem is, Trader Joes doesn't currently have stores that are over 25,000 sq ft... http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/26/business/la-fi-trader-joes-20111027

"The average Trader Joe's store probably will increase from between 10,000 square feet and 15,000 square feet now to 15,000 square feet and bigger, Flickinger predicts. "Trader Joe's can make double or triple the sales volume per week at a bigger store than at a small store, while checkmating competitors," he said."

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And yet (as with other topics), even though there is near universal agreement, we as a state keep electing the same clowns that don't change the laws.

Anyone surprised by the results?

We as a state are really, really good at electing clowns. It's one of the few places where we are a national leader.

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Yes.  Microsoft has taught me that doing the same thing again and again often leads to different results.

Einstein said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, what is doing the same thing over and over and getting different results?

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For the L.O.G please let me buy strong beer that's cold, in a grocery store and also give me as many options as they have in other states!  From what I read the opponents of the petition and ballot measure are now being proved wrong in the wording they said was "not allowed"...hope this one works out....

[DTowner]

I definitely want to see an overhaul to Oklahoma's liquor laws, but letting grocery stores (even if restricted in size) sell wine without allowing liquor stores to sell cold beer (above 3.2%) could be a serious economic blow to liquor stores.  Granted, liquor stores have not exactly been looking out for the customer's interest as they've fought to preserve their protected status.

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Einstein said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, what is doing the same thing over and over and getting different results?

MicroSofting

[TheTed]

So is this measure a step in the right direction, or is it misguided? It seems awfully narrow, like we're fixing a flat tire on a car with no engine. So is it a start to replacing the engine?

It wouldn't affect me at all, as I'm a beer guy. I want to see more good craft breweries here and have sensible days/hours in which to purchase said beer. I want to be able to visit breweries and drink their beers and get a growler to take home.

I don't personally care whether I can buy at grocery stores. With the exception of stores like Whole Foods, the grocery store beer selection is generally poor in other states.

Having said that, I'd probably be for this measure just because it seems to be a start toward getting us out of the 1950s.

[heironymouspasparagus]

We as a state are really, really good at electing clowns. It's one of the few places where we are a national leader.

We also do it on a national level.  (Inhofe, Sullivan....)

[heironymouspasparagus]

Einstein said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, what is doing the same thing over and over and getting different results?

Cold fusion.

[heironymouspasparagus]

For the L.O.G please let me buy strong beer that's cold, in a grocery store and also give me as many options as they have in other states!  From what I read the opponents of the petition and ballot measure are now being proved wrong in the wording they said was "not allowed"...hope this one works out....

Geez...I guess I thought you were older than that...still living in Disney world!  "Hoping" something rational will happen in this state??  Or this nation???


Again - quit electing the clowns!  (Anybody that is in office today!)

[zstyles]

I definitely want to see an overhaul to Oklahoma's liquor laws, but letting grocery stores (even if restricted in size) sell wine without allowing liquor stores to sell cold beer (above 3.2%) could be a serious economic blow to liquor stores.  Granted, liquor stores have not exactly been looking out for the customer's interest as they've fought to preserve their protected status.

Agreed, I think both are out of touch laws that should be reformed and allowed..just had my 6.0 cold beverage BUD Platinum (yes I said BUD) last night that I bought in Missouri and enjoyed it while scouring at Oklahoma Laws....also enjoyed my Flat Tire beer and alcohol included mixers(Bacardi rum mixer packet) over the weekend by the pool I picked up in the grocery store...

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Agreed, I think both are out of touch laws that should be reformed and allowed..just had my 6.0 cold beverage BUD Platinum (yes I said BUD) last night that I bought in Missouri and enjoyed it while scouring at Oklahoma Laws....also enjoyed my Flat Tire beer and alcohol included mixers(Bacardi rum mixer packet) over the weekend by the pool I picked up in the grocery store...

Flat Tire?  Or Fat Tire?  Reminds me; a run to Caney is in my future....

[jacobi]

Why do people go crazy for fat tire?  I was deeply disappointed the first time I tried it.  Is it the whole cuban cigar phenomenon?