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« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2011, 11:49:42 pm »

The other things that I have noticed in most of these videos, they are shot by freelancers who may not be associated with a network or an affiliate of a network, and while they are performing a job, on first sight an officer is not going to recognize the fact that they are a credentialed freelancer. The other thing is you have people like the guy in LA that rents or owns a helicopter and is always out looking for any police chase or situation to cover, and some of these videographers try to act like they are filming an episode of COPS and try to push teir way into what is going on. I hope that most of the TV stations around the country took a hard lesson from the collision of two news helicopters in Phoenix a few years ago. The stations came two an agreement to use one or at the most two helicopters for police situations and use whichever one as a pool camera, instead of four news copters and two police copters following the same thing. IIRC there were also some rules laid down by the FAA regarding that.

But BOT there are too many people being freelancers trying to make a buck, and I'm not referring to paparazzi chasing celebs.
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« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2011, 11:52:19 pm »

The other things that I have noticed in most of these videos, they are shot by freelancers who may not be associated with a network or an affiliate of a network, and while they are performing a job, on first sight an officer is not going to recognize the fact that they are a credentialed freelancer. The other thing is you have people like the guy in LA that rents or owns a helicopter and is always out looking for any police chase or situation to cover, and some of these videographers try to act like they are filming an episode of COPS and try to push teir way into what is going on. I hope that most of the TV stations around the country took a hard lesson from the collision of two news helicopters in Phoenix a few years ago. The stations came two an agreement to use one or at the most two helicopters for police situations and use whichever one as a pool camera, instead of four news copters and two police copters following the same thing. IIRC there were also some rules laid down by the FAA regarding that.

But BOT there are too many people being freelancers trying to make a buck, and I'm not referring to paparazzi chasing celebs.

Those kind of people need some restrictions.  What I'm specifically referring to is regular Joe Schmoe camera hobbyist (me) out to take a few photos.  Then a rent-a-cop (no offense intended to those in the security industry) tries to tell you what you can and can not photograph?  Sorry, that ain't gonna fly with me.
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« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2011, 12:15:20 am »

Those kind of people need some restrictions.  What I'm specifically referring to is regular Joe Schmoe camera hobbyist (me) out to take a few photos.  Then a rent-a-cop (no offense intended to those in the security industry) tries to tell you what you can and can not photograph?  Sorry, that ain't gonna fly with me.

I completely agree. The two things I like to shoot are landscape, and what I think is called "still life" looking for shots of day in and day out stuff, street scenes, people moving throughout the day in their lives, looking for that shot that captures a moment in time, but I like to think that I know the boundries, and I don't intrude into a personal situation, but shooting pic's of a guy fishing on the beach, or people in a public market going about their business, I never get confronted about. The only time in the last 15 years that I have been asked not to shoot was at art festivals, and it was usually because I was wanting to take a picture of someones artwork and was politely asked by the artist or people at the festival to not specifically photograph the work. As I said it comes down to common sense by the person taking pictures or video, and god forbid the common sense of a security person (does that exist?) to know where the boundries are.
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« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2011, 01:32:30 pm »

there are too many people being freelancers trying to make a buck, and I'm not referring to paparazzi chasing celebs.

Most of the cases cited involved situations where the "crime scene" materialized in front of someone who had a camera, and the police over-reacted.  The teacher in OKC who was assaulted by OHP and OCPD when a car chase ended in front of him and he unknowingly photographed some brutality, or the NY lady on her lawn in her bathrobe arrested for recording police in front of her house, for instance.

Then there's the guy with his press credentials hanging around his neck, or with a big honkin broadcast video camera wearing station logos being singled out, thrown to the ground and cuffed by police who ignored other bystanders who dont have cameras.  

That they might someday encounter some wannabe storm-chaser that doesnt understand crime scene etiquette does not justify painting everyone with a camera with a broad brush.  
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« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2011, 10:23:27 am »

A police officer fired for beating a suspect wants to charge a woman who videotaped the beating, saying his rights were violated.
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/08/criminally_charging_videograph.html

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/08/11/police-officer-seeks-criminal-charges-against-woman-who-videotaped-police-beating/


And a Congressman wants his public Town Hall Meeting comments to be secret orders police to confiscate cameras:
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/08/24/Video-cameras-confiscated-at-town-hall/UPI-46281314241497/#ixzz1W3ygwoJo
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« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2011, 10:49:57 am »

NM State Police Officer caught doing a little auto "body work" on a security camera:

http://santafe.kob.com/news/news/91795-property-camera-catches-state-police-officer-sex-act
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« Reply #51 on: September 01, 2011, 11:39:19 am »

A police officer fired for beating a suspect wants to charge a woman who videotaped the beating, saying his rights were violated.
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/08/criminally_charging_videograph.html

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/08/11/police-officer-seeks-criminal-charges-against-woman-who-videotaped-police-beating/


And a Congressman wants his public Town Hall Meeting comments to be secret orders police to confiscate cameras:
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/08/24/Video-cameras-confiscated-at-town-hall/UPI-46281314241497/#ixzz1W3ygwoJo

This was my favorite comment from the first article:


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Talbert Swan said police departments nationwide use video with audio to capture their interactions with the public. “There are television shows based on it,” he said, adding that any police department that is properly doing its job should “have no concern whether the public is holding a video camera or not.”


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« Reply #52 on: September 01, 2011, 05:05:28 pm »

Here's an interesting one.  Woman buys stolen laptop for fifty bucks, then uses it to send explicit emails to her new boy friend, including sexually explicit images.  The laptop was equipped with Lojack software that allowed the company to locate the device and record the communications.  She was charged with receiving stolen goods, but the charge was dropped later.  She believes her privacy was violated and wants wiretapping charges brought against Absolute (the maker of Lojack software), as well as Absolute's theft recovery officer and the local police.

I guess the argument is that the original owner has a right to recover his property, but he doesn't have the right to invade her privacy and break federal wiretapping laws while doing so.  The judge is allowing the case to proceed.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/privacy/231600626
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« Reply #53 on: September 01, 2011, 06:01:28 pm »

Here's an interesting one.  Woman buys stolen laptop for fifty bucks, then uses it to send explicit emails to her new boy friend, including sexually explicit images.  The laptop was equipped with Lojack software that allowed the company to locate the device and record the communications.  She was charged with receiving stolen goods, but the charge was dropped later.  She believes her privacy was violated and wants wiretapping charges brought against Absolute (the maker of Lojack software), as well as Absolute's theft recovery officer and the local police.

I guess the argument is that the original owner has a right to recover his property, but he doesn't have the right to invade her privacy and break federal wiretapping laws while doing so.  The judge is allowing the case to proceed.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/privacy/231600626

It seems to me that if some nitwit steals something and they have no knowledge of what said stollen item's capabilties or functions are, they can't sue for said object performing it's functions.
a) steal some harmful substance of no value... get sick, cancer, or whatever, sue, profit
b) steal some sort of tracking device, get tracked, profit.
c) steal copper wire from electrical sub station, get electrocuted, profit
d) steal some sort of picture taking device... that takes a picture of the police arresting you... you're screwed
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« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2011, 11:23:13 am »

NM State Police Officer caught doing a little auto "body work" on a security camera:

http://santafe.kob.com/news/news/91795-property-camera-catches-state-police-officer-sex-act

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« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2011, 11:28:30 am »

Here's an interesting one.  Woman buys stolen laptop for fifty bucks, then uses it to send explicit emails to her new boy friend, including sexually explicit images.  The laptop was equipped with Lojack software that allowed the company to locate the device and record the communications.  She was charged with receiving stolen goods, but the charge was dropped later.  She believes her privacy was violated and wants wiretapping charges brought against Absolute (the maker of Lojack software), as well as Absolute's theft recovery officer and the local police.

I guess the argument is that the original owner has a right to recover his property, but he doesn't have the right to invade her privacy and break federal wiretapping laws while doing so.  The judge is allowing the case to proceed.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/privacy/231600626

Good for the judge. Perhaps he wants such crazy logic exposed and ruled upon. Or maybe he is just bored and wants some press.
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« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2011, 12:26:36 pm »

Oregon's law is a little convoluded on issues like this.

http://theworldlink.com/news/local/article_ff21e8e5-16a8-5dab-a447-c55fc945daf3.html?mode=story
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« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2011, 12:39:30 pm »


Dog or meerkat?  Maybe he was waiting his turn?
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« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2011, 12:49:45 pm »

Dog or meerkat?  Maybe he was waiting his turn?

Or getting lessons.  Wink
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« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2011, 01:37:12 pm »

Police arrest people who photographed officers beating a homeless man to death:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKgpbC6WmFM[/youtube]

and one video that slipped past them:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ljYNgLnpxM[/youtube]


http://www.pixiq.com/article/at-least-one-fullerton-cop-charged-with-murder
http://www.pixiq.com/article/power-of-social-media
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