Your Federal Government Shutdown Thread

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Gallup Poll says 60% of Americans want a compromise and not a shutdown.
Rasmussen is a republican polling source. They worded their question oddly.
"Would you rather have Congress avoid a government shutdown by authorizing spending at the same levels as last year or would you rather have a partial government shutdown until Democrats and Republicans can agree on what spending to cut?"
No wonder they got those results.

I think all the polling groups ask questions worded in a way to get the desired results. SOP

[RecycleMichael]

you are probably right, but Rasmussen has been under a lot of fire lately by objective third party polling groups for their wording.

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you are probably right, but Rasmussen has been under a lot of fire lately by objective third party polling groups for their wording.

I guess everyone gets their turn in the hotseat.

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"Would you rather have Congress avoid a government shutdown by authorizing spending at the same levels as last year or would you rather have a partial government shutdown until Democrats and Republicans can agree on what spending to cut?"

I wonder what category they put you in if you answer the question above with "yes"?

[Cats Cats Cats]

I hope it shutdown instead of defunding clinics procviding reproductive services.

[Teatownclown]

I hope it shutdown instead of defunding clinics procviding reproductive services.

If POTUS caves, he's going to be toast with many of us who paid to get him elected.

[Conan71]

If POTUS caves, he's going to be toast with many of us who paid to get him elected.

He should be already.  Afghanistan? Gitmo? Dumbfukistan?

[Teatownclown]

Did you forget where you come from? He never had Teatown....

Can you imagine holding the country hostage over Planned Parenthood? Do you realize how much good they do for this country? They may help 1% get abortions... This is the ultimate litmus test!

[nathanm]

This week the republicans invited Harry Reid again to introduce a bill that he would be willing to vote on, and the answer was no.

The 61 billion in cuts are useless.  We need closer to a trillion now.  Last month we spent 8X what we took in in revenue. 

You sir, need to reread the Constitution. Reid doesn't get to introduce budget bills. That's what the House gets to do. If they can't produce something that will pass the Senate and avoid a veto by the President, we get a shutdown.

Also, if you're so bucking concerned about the budget, why is it that you insist on zero tax increases on anyone?

[nathanm]

Looks to me like both sides are saying "why can't you be reasonable and do it my way?"

You're normally a reasonable person, but that's an absolutely idiotic read of the situation. The Senate said "send us a bill with the $33 billion in cuts you originally asked for and none of the political riders and we'll pass it." No such bill has been found in evidence. Why? Because Boehner is being held hostage by the teabaggers.

And Gaspar's Rasmussen poll regarding Tea Party favorables is an extreme outlier. They've been running -10 to -20 favorables for months now, including in previous Rasmussen polls.

[Gaspar]

Gallup Poll says 60% of Americans want a compromise and not a shutdown.

Rasmussen is a republican polling source. They worded their question oddly.

"Would you rather have Congress avoid a government shutdown by authorizing spending at the same levels as last year or would you rather have a partial government shutdown until Democrats and Republicans can agree on what spending to cut?"

No wonder they got those results.

Lets see, first we got a budget from the president that both parties found laughable because it raised spending by two trillion a year.  We had two years under Pelosi to come up with a new budget, but that's like giving a teenage boy the car keys and a bottle of whiskey and saying "be careful!" as he drives away.  Correction: Like giving Pelosi an air force G5 and a bar tab, and saying "be responsible."

Then after October passed, the ball was punted to the Republicans who took control of the house in January and came up with an anemic budget bill with only 61 billion in cuts that somehow passed, then it was halted in the senate by the dems who want to cut that in half.

This is complete masturbation.  Now Reid's politicizing this whole thing as a debate on abortion.

We have the republicans who will not tolerate any interruption in drilling for oil.
We have the democrats who will not tolerate any interruption in drilling for babies.
We have a president who will not tolerate any interruption in his vacation schedule.

It's BS on all sides, they just represent differing degrees of stupid!

[Gaspar]

You sir, need to reread the Constitution. Reid doesn't get to introduce budget bills. That's what the House gets to do. If they can't produce something that will pass the Senate and avoid a veto by the President, we get a shutdown.

Also, if you're so frakking concerned about the budget, why is it that you insist on zero tax increases on anyone?

When the senate recieves a bill they can counter it with one of their own  . . .and during that period of time Pelosi was the house and it would have been no problem for them to craft a bill that they could both agree on.

[nathanm]

When the senate recieves a bill they can counter it with one of their own  . . .and during that period of time Pelosi was the house and it would have been no problem for them to craft a bill that they could both agree on.

If Pelosi and Reid had tried to pass a budget after the midterms, you would have been foaming at the mouth and yelling about how they weren't respecting the will of the American people. Moreover, that's just lame deflection. The budget we're arguing over is only good until October. The exact same argument would be happening in the fall/winter instead of now.

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If Pelosi and Reid had tried to pass a budget after the midterms, you would have been foaming at the mouth and yelling about how they weren't respecting the will of the American people. Moreover, that's just lame deflection. The budget we're arguing over is only good until October. The exact same argument would be happening in the fall/winter instead of now.

Refresh my memory.  Why was there not a budget before October?  Before the elections?

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You're normally a reasonable person, but that's an absolutely idiotic read of the situation.

I don't think calling the whole bunch of them as a bunch of obstinate hardheads is being unreasonable.

Your results may vary.