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« on: December 17, 2010, 01:49:30 pm »

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20026016-503544.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

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The claim that the health care overhaul bill reflects a "government takeover of healthcare" has won the "lie of the year" award from the fact-checking website Politifact.com
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 03:39:42 pm »


Interesting rebuttal here.

http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/26672

And how Obama's lie that he would roll back the Bush tax cuts on the "rich" didn't make it is astonishing. /sarc off.
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 03:44:16 pm »

Interesting rebuttal here.

http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/26672

And how Obama's lie that he would roll back the Bush tax cuts on the "rich" didn't make it is astonishing. /sarc off.

http://www.slate.com/id/2247393/

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/26/a-government-takeover-of-health-care/



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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 04:16:29 pm »

Looks like we're gonna get all fixed up.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2010/12/17/132145106/gop-lobbyists-to-take-key-health-spots-on-capitol-hill?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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GOP Lobbyists To Take Key Health Spots On Capitol Hill
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 04:30:36 pm »


What?  You mean they're firing the key democrat lobbyists?  Well at least they'll have 3 years of unemployment.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 05:03:32 pm »

What?  You mean they're firing the key democrat lobbyists?  Well at least they'll have 3 years of unemployment.

All fixed up.  I can feel it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2010, 07:32:28 pm »

How many trillion spent on medicare, medicaid, etc?

FDA.  The va.  Public hospitals.  University hospitals.

The government has run healthcare for a very long time.  It is inefficient, costly, and progressively lagging many countries on effectiveness (based on infant mortality, life span, survival rates, and other metrics).  It is worth too much money to have meaningful change that benefits the public or government over industry.

Hey, enjoyig your lower insuarance rates after all the tort reform?  Of course not, they just go up with no effect...
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2010, 08:36:47 pm »

Hey, enjoyig your lower insuarance rates after all the tort reform?  Of course not, they just go up with no effect...

Texas. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2010, 09:17:59 pm »

Texas. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

No, the white courtesy phone is for .....
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2010, 10:46:10 am »

Texas. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Didn't seem to do much for what Medicare pays out..
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2011, 01:56:03 pm »

This year's "lie of the year" winner:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/dec/20/lie-year-democrats-claims-republicans-voted-end-me/

Still not a fan of this non-objective objective website.
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2011, 02:19:52 pm »

This year's "lie of the year" winner:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/dec/20/lie-year-democrats-claims-republicans-voted-end-me/

Still not a fan of this non-objective objective website.

They're all super.

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After two years of being pounded by Republicans with often false charges about the 2010 health care law, the Democrats were turning the tables.

PolitiFact debunked the Medicare charge in nine separate fact-checks rated False or Pants on Fire, most often in attacks leveled against Republican House members.

Now, PolitiFact has chosen the Democrats’ claim as the 2011 Lie of the Year.

It’s the third year in a row that a health care claim has won the dubious honor. In 2009, the winner was the Republicans’ charge that the Democrats’ health care plan included "death panels." In 2010, it was that the plan was a "government takeover of health care."

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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2011, 02:27:44 pm »

They're all super.


Yep. Krugman is not handling this very well.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/20/politifact-r-i-p/?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2011, 07:11:07 pm »

Health care is a right, not a product. I just want health care and education like our elected officials get….and retirement benefits like I pay for them!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2011, 07:45:55 pm »

Health care is a right, not a product. I just want health care and education like our elected officials get….and retirement benefits like I pay for them!!!!

Please cite your authority or source which makes health care and education a "right"?
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