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« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2010, 12:56:21 pm »

Okay, this is disturbing:

In April 2006, he was suspended for three days without pay for possessing and attempting to distribute pseudoephedrine on the Internet, the records show.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100210_11_0_ATulsa498466

Anyone think this was sufficient punishment?  How easily would an average citizen have gotten out of this if this had been a police sting operation?  Due process my a$$, I think we need to hold law enforcement to a high standard.

I can't believe he will remain on payroll until the criminal charges are resolved.  With a really good attorney, this could get continued for a year or longer.  Either that or he will plea down to misdemeanor and be back on the force.  He has no business carrying a firearm anymore and sure as hell doesn't have what it takes to be a stable LEO.

He needs to face "layoff".
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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2010, 01:07:51 pm »

Union.....It's that simple.....
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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2010, 01:12:21 pm »

He was suspended for two days for walking away from his car with the engine running.

So yes, selling the primary component of crystal meth illegally over the internet to skirt state and federal laws.. is only slightly worse than leaving your car running.
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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2010, 04:02:06 pm »

His divorce makes for interesting reading.  I can honestly say I can't recall a public defender being appointed for minors in a divorce.  As well there's a court-appointed therapist for the kids.  This guy is sounding more and more like a total nut.  The soon to be ex filed for an EPO on Monday.  Can't say I blame her.  Hmmm alimony to be paid from 40% of his future overtime earnings.  Sounds like she's SOL on that.  I didn't realize how dependent LEO's were on OT.

"FUNDERBURK, CARL: TEMPORARY ORDER HEARING HELD. SOLE CUSTODY TO PETITIONER, RESPONDENT TO HAVE FRIDAY VISITATIONS WITH BOTH CHILDREN FROM 5:00 PM TO 9:00 PM. RESPONDENT TO HAVE VISITATION WITH OLDEST CHILD TUES NIGHT AS WELL FROM SCHOOL TO SCHOOL. PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED TO REPRESENT THE MINOR CHILDREN. CHILD SUPPORT TO BEGIN 9-1-2009 AND THE FIRST DAY OF EVERY MONTH. COUNSELING PAID PER GUIDELINES FOR CHILDREN BY BOTH PARTIES. 40% OF FUTURE OVERTIME PAYMENT RESPONDENT MAKES TO BE GIVEN TO PETITIONER FOR SUPPORT ALIMONY. APPRAISAL TO BE CONDUCTED OF MARITAL PROPERTY, RESPONDENT TO PAY 100%. FINAL ALLOCATION OF PAYMENT FOR APPRAISAL RESERVED. THE COURT'S MOTION TO SETTLE JOURNAL ENTRY SET 9-22-2009 AT 9:00 AM. PETITIONER REPRESENTED BY KELLY SMAKAL, BOTH PRESENT. RESPONDENT REPRESENTED BY KATHRYN HERWIG, BOTH PRESENT. BARBARA TIFFEE, COURT REPORTER."


http://www.oscn.net/applications/ocisweb/GetCaseInformation.asp?submitted=true&viewtype=caseGeneral&casemasterID=2239112&db=Tulsa
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2010, 04:27:59 pm »


Anyone think this was sufficient punishment?  How easily would an average citizen have gotten out of this if this had been a police sting operation?  Due process my a$$, I think we need to hold law enforcement to a high standard.

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He needs to face "layoff".

The irony about all this is a corporal on KRMG this morning said the FOP rejected the offer from the mayor because they didn't trust him.

Yet, the FOP continues to shield this apparent whackjob.

I'd say the feeling of a lack of trust is mutual.
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2010, 04:34:25 pm »

"You call me Francis, I'll kill you!!"


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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2010, 06:28:34 pm »

His divorce makes for interesting reading.  I can honestly say I can't recall a public defender being appointed for minors in a divorce.  As well there's a court-appointed therapist for the kids.  This guy is sounding more and more like a total nut.  The soon to be ex filed for an EPO on Monday.  Can't say I blame her.  Hmmm alimony to be paid from 40% of his future overtime earnings.  Sounds like she's SOL on that.  I didn't realize how dependent LEO's were on OT.

"FUNDERBURK, CARL: TEMPORARY ORDER HEARING HELD. SOLE CUSTODY TO PETITIONER, RESPONDENT TO HAVE FRIDAY VISITATIONS WITH BOTH CHILDREN FROM 5:00 PM TO 9:00 PM. RESPONDENT TO HAVE VISITATION WITH OLDEST CHILD TUES NIGHT AS WELL FROM SCHOOL TO SCHOOL. PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED TO REPRESENT THE MINOR CHILDREN. CHILD SUPPORT TO BEGIN 9-1-2009 AND THE FIRST DAY OF EVERY MONTH. COUNSELING PAID PER GUIDELINES FOR CHILDREN BY BOTH PARTIES. 40% OF FUTURE OVERTIME PAYMENT RESPONDENT MAKES TO BE GIVEN TO PETITIONER FOR SUPPORT ALIMONY. APPRAISAL TO BE CONDUCTED OF MARITAL PROPERTY, RESPONDENT TO PAY 100%. FINAL ALLOCATION OF PAYMENT FOR APPRAISAL RESERVED. THE COURT'S MOTION TO SETTLE JOURNAL ENTRY SET 9-22-2009 AT 9:00 AM. PETITIONER REPRESENTED BY KELLY SMAKAL, BOTH PRESENT. RESPONDENT REPRESENTED BY KATHRYN HERWIG, BOTH PRESENT. BARBARA TIFFEE, COURT REPORTER."


http://www.oscn.net/applications/ocisweb/GetCaseInformation.asp?submitted=true&viewtype=caseGeneral&casemasterID=2239112&db=Tulsa

I know his wife or ex-wife as it seems to be now.  Very sweet young lady.

I also know the officer's father.  I grew up with him.  I see him from time to time as we live in the same suburb.  You could not ask to know a finer man.   As the old saying goes, you can't pick your relatives.

I know this has to be a difficult time for the family.
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2010, 11:19:23 pm »

Well, at least we know who will play him on "America's Most Wanted"

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« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2010, 09:59:37 am »

I know his wife or ex-wife as it seems to be now.  Very sweet young lady.

I also know the officer's father.  I grew up with him.  I see him from time to time as we live in the same suburb.  You could not ask to know a finer man.   As the old saying goes, you can't pick your relatives.



Well...  You are talking about his wife and you are talking about his dad.  I am pretty sure there was some sort of "picking" going on when they got married.  The dad is.. well the dad.  Its not like this is your wifes sisters brother inlaws cousin or something.

Not that that makes any difference at all.  Just sayin.
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« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2010, 12:47:30 pm »

I didn't realize how dependent LEO's were on OT.

...or how deceptive the reported base pay figure is.
Didnt TNF have numbers here where we figured in all the usual overtime, stipends, allowances, etc almost doubled an officer's pay?
Sorry, I seem to be wandering into another existing thread here...
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« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2010, 08:02:57 pm »


Well...  You are talking about his wife and you are talking about his dad.  I am pretty sure there was some sort of "picking" going on when they got married.  The dad is.. well the dad.  Its not like this is your wifes sisters brother inlaws cousin or something.

Not that that makes any difference at all.  Just sayin.

I work in staffing, I had a job opening, I placed the ex-wife in the job that she still works in 8 years later.  I still call on the company I placed her in and see her from time to time.

Father in Law and I have known each other since 3rd grade.   Played baseball together.   As I mentioned still see him from time to time. I even know his parents. (the officers grand parents)

No they are not my cousin or anthing else.  Just good decent hard working people I am proud to call my friends.


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« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2010, 02:11:22 pm »

I'm assuming this guy is still getting paid?
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« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2010, 02:29:42 pm »

I'm assuming this guy is still getting paid?

Yes
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« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2010, 03:11:50 pm »

...and probably doesn't have to pass a UA screen either
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« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2010, 07:24:44 pm »

He is until he gets held over for trial. That could be awhile since he got a continuance on his arraignment until 4/1. Someone has a good lawyer.
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