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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2010, 01:51:17 pm »

Is this the same investigation that's been busting the drug ring in the Catoosa PD lately?
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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2010, 09:55:43 pm »

There are some highly intelligent people that are developing the drugs.  Every house contains most ingredients that can be used in the production  of neth.  China discovered it some 500 years ago.  It was synthesized in about 1880.  It is secreted by a gland in the brain that expands pleasure.  It is dispensed by druggist under a very closed prescribed condition.  Ask your druggist if they can fill a generic prescription for it.  It could be given to your children.

With the goon squad if you have a 2 leader plastic empty bottle on your counter you can be charged with preparing to produce neth.  If you are standing in the back yard and they can see you they will holler “Police” and smash in your front door destroying it.  I have seen the results of their action and hope a federal grand jury will be looking to their acts.
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2010, 11:00:50 pm »

There are some highly intelligent people that are developing the drugs.  Every house contains most ingredients that can be used in the production  of neth.  China discovered it some 500 years ago.  It was synthesized in about 1880.  It is secreted by a gland in the brain that expands pleasure.  It is dispensed by druggist under a very closed prescribed condition.  Ask your druggist if they can fill a generic prescription for it.  It could be given to your children.

With the goon squad if you have a 2 leader plastic empty bottle on your counter you can be charged with preparing to produce neth.  If you are standing in the back yard and they can see you they will holler “Police” and smash in your front door destroying it.  I have seen the results of their action and hope a federal grand jury will be looking to their acts.


OK....

I'm assuming that...
  • neth = meth
  • leader = liter

Aside from that I think most people don't usually store anhydrous ammonia under the cabinet.

That might also be known as 'anhidrus amoanya'...
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2010, 11:11:58 am »

Record number of meth labs found in 2009
The number of labs was higher than the previous five years combined.
By NICOLE MARSHALL World Staff Writer
Published: 1/10/2010  2:23 AM

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100110_11_A1_ATgnne236515



Kinda wild.  How much of that spike is a real increase in use, and how much is an increase in enforcement actions...

I knew the economy was bad, but hey.... I guess I was told at some point that KT didn't try to get re-elected because the unions were not going to support her this time around?!?...

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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2010, 01:36:06 pm »

How much of that spike is a real increase in use, and how much is an increase in enforcement actions...

It was rumored that the police agencies behind the first pseudoephedrine law throttled back meth lab busts to create the impression they were "winning the war" once the law went into effect, then slowly started catching up  busting labs again when they needed statistics to prevent drug task force's from being cut.

So a bit of skepticism is healthy when looking at provided statistics.
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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2010, 06:58:50 pm »

OK....

I'm assuming that...
  • neth = meth
  • leader = liter

Aside from that I think most people don't usually store anhydrous ammonia under the cabinet.

That might also be known as 'anhidrus amoanya'...
Made another typo in neth for meth instead of typing the word out.
Leader is being used as a slang word of liter quite often. 
 
Some people have been known to clean their residents with household cleaners and store them under the sink..    (ammonia solution: a solution of ammonia in water. Use: household cleaner, manufacture of fertilizers and textiles. Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. Allrights reserved.)

Have been told that in the process of cooking the water is removed leaving the ammonia in the chemical processing  of meth.  At some point of distilling of the ammonia it is quite explosive.

It is rumored that over the years the stimulus monies paid by the fed’s reflects the numbers in Meth lab bust as recorded In the grafts shown..   

There are companies that will reevaluate the city operations and detail the amount of people to perform the needed operations of a city.  Seems there must be a room full of these studies somewhere that  have not been  opened to date.

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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2010, 07:40:46 pm »

Leader is being used as a slang word of liter quite often. 

Shadows is used to mean hidden from the light as a slang word quite often.   
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2010, 07:52:02 pm »

Shadows is used to mean hidden from the light as a slang word quite often.   

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I could see neth being a typo if done once.  It was done twice though.  I smell plagiarism I tell you!
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2010, 01:09:48 pm »

Fwiw, with the new shake and bake method well known (in tulsa) many of the busts are just precursors, stuff that could be used to make meth.  Additionally, a shake and bake "lab" only makes enough for a few hits.  Ergo, more people making meth more often to meet the demand = more busts.

As an interesting aside, okc claims they don't have any shake and bake labs.  By denying it and not busting them, they have statistically eliminated their meth problem.  Magic!
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2010, 01:46:19 pm »

Fwiw, with the new shake and bake method well known (in tulsa) many of the busts are just precursors, stuff that could be used to make meth.  Additionally, a shake and bake "lab" only makes enough for a few hits.  Ergo, more people making meth more often to meet the demand = more busts.

As an interesting aside, okc claims they don't have any shake and bake labs.  By denying it and not busting them, they have statistically eliminated their meth problem.  Magic!

Much like former TPD chief, Drew Diamond who proudly pronounced we didn't have a gang problem in Tulsa.
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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2010, 02:59:07 pm »

Much like former TPD chief, Drew Diamond who proudly pronounced we didn't have a gang problem in Tulsa.

It's interesting to see how "problems" become "crisis" when someone dangles grant money...

Seat belts, texting, red-light running, too may to list.
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2010, 05:12:38 pm »

One does not have to dangle grant monies before Tulsa.  Any ordinance seems not to be beneficial to the general public but to its ability to raise revenue for a bloated bureaucracy.  Thus the department of “I am more intelligent then thou because I have a college degree” becomes another tax assessor. 

One could assume that a majority of the registered voters has not passed on any question concerning the general public needs.

23% of the children live in poverty in Tulsa and persons cry give us more of their money they need to sustain life.  These children live on the income that is available making up as Dr Mayo’s wrote of the “400,000 children that hobble to their early graves”.

Tulsa problems may not be solved by a grand jury.
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2010, 06:08:39 pm »

Hoss:
If one has a roll of aluminum foil, lye, drain cleaner, paper book matches, any form of caustic acid or porch and side walk cleaner in your possession you can be charged to be in the process of producing meth and told you can be sent to prison for life along with a $50,000 fine.   If you will plea bargain then you get 10 years and $50,000 fine.

I believe the only thing would be go to the drug store with a severe cough and say give me some of those football pseudoephededrine pills.  You could produce a very limited amount of the drug.   

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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2010, 06:29:15 pm »

Hoss:
If one has a roll of aluminum foil, lye, drain cleaner, paper book matches, any form of caustic acid or porch and side walk cleaner in your possession you can be charged to be in the process of producing meth and told you can be sent to prison for life along with a $50,000 fine.   If you will plea bargain then you get 10 years and $50,000 fine.

I believe the only thing would be go to the drug store with a severe cough and say give me some of those football pseudoephededrine pills.  You could produce a very limited amount of the drug.   



Black helicopters anyone?  I think a 'working lab' would need to be in order.  What you're suggesting is plain silly, even for rogue cops.
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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2010, 07:22:19 pm »

Hoss:
You need to read some of the arrest report.  Most are available under FOI. A working lab is not a requirement.  I did a full research on this and supplies are considered the same as guilty.  There is a full story but for safety reasons it is one of those “don’t ask, don’t tell”.  
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