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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2009, 03:52:35 pm »

DPS apparently didnt release video from the other vehicles, just the one that doesnt show anything:
http://www.newson6.com/Global/category.asp?C=121535&clipId=4269034&autostart=true

Color me shocked.

How did you like those street lights in the video?
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2009, 04:38:21 pm »

OHP cleared Trooper Martin again, (were we surprised)
and showed a fragment of dash cam video with significant gaps in the audio (again) that was not clear enough to hear or see anything suitable for independent analysis.
http://www.newson6.com/Global/category.asp?C=121535&clipId=4299396&autostart=true

The excuse for the use of force was that the man who was later clubbed reacted to Trooper Allen's grabbing of his wrist by looking at his wrist, then looking up at the trooper grabbing his wrist and then again at his wrist, all the while backing away from the trooper.  Thats assault and battery on a PO in the OHP book. 

(EDIT)  A cleaner copy of the video shows the victim attempting to walk around the traffic stop (with a fence to his left keeping him from giving a wider berth) and being intercepted by Trooper Martin, who aggressively places himself chest-to-chest with the man.
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2009, 01:12:46 pm »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29IbDJrdkwQ[/youtube]
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2009, 02:45:51 pm »

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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2009, 01:27:42 pm »

Choking a paramedic gets you a handslap but THIS gets you fired?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32503068/
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« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2009, 01:36:09 pm »

Choking a paramedic gets you a handslap but THIS gets you fired?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32503068/

Well yes, but if he'd been choking her it'd be right as rain.
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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2010, 12:23:56 pm »

Another paid vacation for a trooper:

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12306927
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« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2010, 02:17:23 pm »

Another paid vacation for a trooper:

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12306927

I'd say apples/oranges here though.

Choking someone out vs theft...I'm guessing this takes less time than the investigation into misconduct does.
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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2010, 12:48:25 pm »

The paid vacation (since Nov 2008) for Bixby OHP trooper Barry Jacob Rowland, who was turned in by other police for repeatedly kicking a handcuffed woman, finally ends.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=12&articleid=20100525_12_0_tablet506509

Those types of blows to the chest have been known to be fatal in the past, but the only punishment in this case is he simply resigns from OHP and walks away.

Shame we have to get news from Bixby and Henryetta from OKC media.
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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2010, 09:50:59 pm »

OHP used to be a pretty good organization.  They have certainly lost it over this clown.


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« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2014, 09:58:22 pm »

Shooting a fleeing person in the back hasnt been legal since the '80's.
Going to be interesting how they whitewash this murder.


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Linda Koscielny was outside when the trooper chased Stand through her yard.

“Within a foot of me. If he wanted to have hurt me, he could have grabbed me,” said Koscielny.

The trooper ordered Koscielny to get in her house.

“I couldn’t get in my house from where we was at. And I asked him; he had the gun cocked and pointed to the guy’s back the whole time, and I said please don’t shoot him. Please, don’t shoot him and kill him. He wasn’t harming him or me, and he didn’t even have his knife out at the time,” said Koscielny.

But he did pull it out soon after as he continued backpedaling away from the trooper.

“He said, ‘Just leave me alone, just leave me alone, I’m not gonna hurt anyone.’ Then he turned, ran through my yard out to the street. And I ran through my house and come out to the street, and I watched the officer unload his gun on him,” said Koscielny.

Koscielny says she asked him repeatedly if he just killed the man, but the trooper remained silent until a Nowata County deputy ran up moments later.

She said the knife only had a four inch blade, small enough that the trooper didn’t need to shoot.

“I mean, you can tase a person. You don’t have to kill them over a knife,” she said.
http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/Neighbors-react-to-OHP-trooper-involved-shooting/4-FsgAHnoUG4wr7JeybPkw.cspx

They are fine stock indeed:
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http://www.newson6.com/story/25763690/former-ohp-trooper-arrested-outside-oologah-bar-on-multiple-complaints
In his arrest report, the deputy says the incident began when a bartender at the Ironhorse Saloon on Highway 169 in Oologah called the Rogers County Sheriff's Office to ask for an escort to her car. She said there was a man waiting in the parking lot and she believed he was stalking her.

The deputy discovered a red Dodge Challenger in the parking lot with the driver-side door open and the engine running with Pitner slumped over the steering wheel.

The deputy wrote that he was struggling to awaken Pitner when the man "shot out of the car." As the deputy put him a choke hold he felt Pitner trying to grab for the deputy's gun, so the deputy performed "a take down."

Pitner eventually lost consciousness because of the choke hold and the deputy put him cuffs and called for back-up. While looking through Pitner's wallet to try to identify him, the deputy wrote, he found Pitner's driver license as well as an Oklahoma Peace Officers Certification car and an Oklahoma Highway Patrol commission card that identified him as a state trooper.

News On 6 has learned that Pitner, who lives in Bartlesville, became a trooper on January 1, 2007 and was assigned to Troop L in Vinita.
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« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2014, 11:01:18 am »

Shooting a fleeing person in the back hasnt been legal since the '80's.
Going to be interesting how they whitewash this murder.

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/Neighbors-react-to-OHP-trooper-involved-shooting/4-FsgAHnoUG4wr7JeybPkw.cspx

They are fine stock indeed:


This has a "back story" that is common in the state - there are many of these tiny little towns like Delaware (anyone know where that is?).  I have spent a little time there from time to time and they are unable to afford any law enforcement of their own.  I think the 500 population estimate may be high, and it is a very economically poor town - county sheriffs are the most often called law enforcement entity.  The highway patrol is a further removed state entity that covers such a larger area that they typically have no connection to the town they are called to do law enforcement duties.  The county sheriff arriving later may well have known the guy and quite possibly would not have reacted the same way.  It is a sad economic fact of life.


Iron Horse is kind of a dicey place it seems to me.  There is a spectrum of attendees, but it definitely has some rough edges.   Probably not as bad as the old Snake Pit bar on 15th from many years ago....

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« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2014, 12:29:14 pm »

Shooting a fleeing person in the back hasnt been legal since the '80's.
Going to be interesting how they whitewash this murder.
http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/Neighbors-react-to-OHP-trooper-involved-shooting/4-FsgAHnoUG4wr7JeybPkw.cspx

Having a witness standing right there must have complicated things terribly for the PIO.
Given this information, im guessing the "man walking with a knife complaint" didnt surface until the victim was cold.
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« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2015, 10:07:36 am »

Couldnt find a suitable "what the hell?" category to post this in, so...




OHP water rescue ends with trooper killing victim.


Troopers responded to assist stranded motorists stuck in high water near Hectorville Road and Bixby Road in Okmulgee County Friday night.

Captain Paul Timmons told FOX23 troopers found two people trying to push a vehicle out of high water.
Timmons said troopers tried to get the two out of the water when a physical altercation ensued.

Timmons said one trooper was physically assaulted and at least one trooper fired shots killing one person.
No names have been released, but the suspect has been identified as an assistant pator of Fatih Bible Church in Tulsa.


http://www.fox23.com/news/news/local/troopers-respond-shooting-scene-mounds/nmRPP/
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« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2015, 11:23:26 am »

Whatever you do....Do exactly the opposite of what law enforcement tells you to do........It seems to be working out well for those involved......
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