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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2009, 12:21:13 pm »

I have no problem at all with civil libertarians, and really don't have an issue with pot being legalized.  There's certainly plenty of people mentally and physically disabled due to alcohol and I'd never deny that.  However, your constant assertions that people can't get addicted to pot is a total denial of reality. 

It's like anything else, if you manage it in moderation, no problem.  If you make a habit of doing it daily it becomes a problem.

Prove that!

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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2009, 12:32:37 pm »

I'm 100% for complete legalization, however, I know at least one person who fits into Conan's stereotype.  One of my good friends, he's 30, still living w/ his mom, never held a decent job, didn't graduate from college b/c he'd rather get high than take care of bidness.

I lived with him in college.  Really the only difference between us is I knew when to put down the pipe for a few hours and he didn't.

However, I can't say I blame the drug for his problems though...That would be too easy.




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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2009, 12:49:36 pm »

I am ok with legalization if the majority approves but this is a state issue.  Let the states that want it legalized make the law.  The Feds have no Constitutional right to force this on states that do not want it to be legalized.
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2009, 01:00:23 pm »

I do as well, they just don't admit to it readily.  Wink

I don't buy the argument though that it's not addictive.  I've most certainly known heads who were incapable of holding down a job because they were psychologically-dependent on weed.  They wind up bumming off everyone they know or wind up on the government dole.

The exact same things can be said for alcohol.  We tried outlawing alcohol and it was futile.  Same for pot, IMO.  I don't like pot, can't stand the smell of it.  But I think it no worse for society than alcoholic beverages.

I say, legalize it, tax the hell out of it (like we do booze and tobacco), license the growers and suppliers, and quit spending so much government money to irradicate it, because that is a lost cause.  Let it bring some money to the government.  If this were done, I really don't think there would be any substantial increase in pot consumption.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2009, 01:06:52 pm »

I'm 100% for complete legalization, however, I know at least one person who fits into Conan's stereotype.  One of my good friends, he's 30, still living w/ his mom, never held a decent job, didn't graduate from college b/c he'd rather get high than take care of bidness.

I lived with him in college.  Really the only difference between us is I knew when to put down the pipe for a few hours and he didn't.

However, I can't say I blame the drug for his problems though...That would be too easy.






The drug never is the source of the problem, the drug is a symptom of the problem and can wind up mentally disabling people from dealing with the underlying problems and functioning in the normal (or is it NORML?) world.

Just because FOTD can wake and bake every day doesn't mean everyone else can and be productive.  Then again, he doesn't have a job to go to either which might account for his flawed paradigm.  Weed can and does make people just as lazy as psychotropics and depressants.  It's hardly what I'd call a stimulant.
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2009, 01:26:35 pm »

I've most certainly known heads who were incapable of holding down a job because they were psychologically-dependent on weed.  They wind up bumming off everyone they know or wind up on the government dole.

What about your poor souls who have been holding a job since day one, and more rigorously, that yet have no comfort that they are not just spending their strength in vain, and the days of the lives evaporate with endless labours? Do you ever think to proclaim liberty every man to his brother, for once?
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2009, 01:59:03 pm »

The drug never is the source of the problem, the drug is a symptom of the problem and can wind up mentally disabling people from dealing with the underlying problems and functioning in the normal (or is it NORML?) world.

Just because FOTD can wake and bake every day doesn't mean everyone else can and be productive.  Then again, he doesn't have a job to go to either which might account for his flawed paradigm.  Weed can and does make people just as lazy as psychotropics and depressants.  It's hardly what I'd call a stimulant.


Conan has a real bad habit of assuming things. He also takes things personally. Does he do his best? Hardly. So, his word is questionable. The example can be found as he goes back to correct himself and say pot is not the problem but a sympton of a bigger problem while earlier stating something else. What a dweeb.

As a productive member of society, a working and tax paying citizen, FOTD wishes to set Conan the Pathetic straight. And he's not even high...he's low down.

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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2009, 02:09:22 pm »

I'm 100% for complete legalization, however, I know at least one person who fits into Conan's stereotype.  One of my good friends, he's 30, still living w/ his mom, never held a decent job, didn't graduate from college b/c he'd rather get high than take care of bidness.

I lived with him in college.  Really the only difference between us is I knew when to put down the pipe for a few hours and he didn't.

However, I can't say I blame the drug for his problems though...That would be too easy.




Laziness + Pot= Living in your Mama's basement playing WoW w/ degenerate Trekkies.

Having a friend who lives in their Mama's basement while they play WoW and your getting free tokes?...priceless Grin
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2009, 02:27:35 pm »

Conan has a real bad habit of assuming things. He also takes things personally. Does he do his best? Hardly. So, his word is questionable. The example can be found as he goes back to correct himself and say pot is not the problem but a sympton of a bigger problem while earlier stating something else. What a dweeb.

As a productive member of society, a working and tax paying citizen, FOTD wishes to set Conan the Pathetic straight. And he's not even high...he's low down.



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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2009, 02:28:35 pm »

Laziness + Pot= Living in your Mama's basement playing WoW w/ degenerate Trekkies.

Having a friend who lives in their Mama's basement while they play WoW and your getting free tokes?...priceless Grin


Laziness + Pot= Living in your Mama's basement playing WoW w/ degenerate Trekkies. FOTD

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« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2009, 03:40:40 pm »

Conan has a real bad habit of assuming things. He also takes things personally. Does he do his best? Hardly. So, his word is questionable. The example can be found as he goes back to correct himself and say pot is not the problem but a sympton of a bigger problem while earlier stating something else. What a dweeb.

As a productive member of society, a working and tax paying citizen, FOTD wishes to set Conan the Pathetic straight. And he's not even high...he's low down.



The weed has obviously ruined your comprehension skills, you big dope.



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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2009, 04:09:38 pm »



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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2009, 06:54:10 am »

I have more "conservative" friends who smoke pot than "liberal" friends, so I'm not quite sure where you are going with that...

Same here.
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2009, 07:18:20 am »

Same here.

Here's the difference, though.  Liberals will tell each other if they smoke it.  Conservatives, if they wish to stay in favor with other conservatives, usually won't.
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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2009, 08:17:53 am »

Here's the difference, though.  Liberals will tell each other if they smoke it.  Conservatives, if they wish to stay in favor with other conservatives, usually won't.

No conservatives wait till they're drunk then whisper: "where can I score some weed?"
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