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« Reply #330 on: May 27, 2012, 11:48:45 am » |
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You were fine till you related your post to Memorial Day. Our country may be seriously divided on our political views and our religion, but we are not having a civil war. In fact I don't like its characterization as a war at all. Calling this a war gives opposing groups justification for warlike behaviors including terrorism. You feed their game.
What? That's ridiculous. It's a principled argument. I give opposing groups no justification for their hate and terror, but those that refuse to stop their preaching do just that. Why don't you guys want to address the real issue here? |
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« Reply #331 on: May 27, 2012, 12:19:17 pm » |
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What? That's ridiculous. It's a principled argument. I give opposing groups no justification for their hate and terror, but those that refuse to stop their preaching do just that.
Why don't you guys want to address the real issue here?
...stop their preaching?... Its not the issues, its the tactics of approaching those issues that is getting you, and some others, grief. No one is shy about bringing up issues on this forum but the discussions are often lame and shallow having been parroted from political websites. I like the way you try to shake up those who keep trying to keep their heads buried in suburban sand, but when over used those tactics bcome counter productive and play into a mindless game of flash-bomb throwing. People lose track of the arguments because they're distracted by the noise. There is no justification for hate and terrorist activities against medical doctors who legally perform procedures and I don't remember anyone around here supporting that. When you redirect the spotlight onto Memorial Day as a day to remember those doctors it is analogous to Gaspar throwing in an Obama grenade in a thread about cycling. |
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« Reply #332 on: May 27, 2012, 11:43:41 pm » |
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More domestic right wingers arrested: Chicago (CNN) -- Three men charged with conspiring to commit domestic terrorism during the NATO summit were plotting to attack President Obama's Chicago campaign headquarters, the Chicago mayor's home and police stations, authorities said Saturday.
A police investigation that began early this month revealed that the three suspects are "self-proclaimed anarchists" and members of the "Black Bloc" group who traveled together from Florida to Chicago to commit violence as a protest against the NATO summit, authorities said in a statement.
Diplomatic marathon: G8 focusing on Greece; NATO, on Afghanistan
"Black Bloc" was the group blamed for violence that occurred in recent "Occupy" protests, such as in Rome last year when anarchists in ski masks torched cars and clashed with police and even other Occupy protesters. http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/05/three-arrested-in-alleged-chicago-terror-plot.html |
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« Reply #333 on: May 27, 2012, 11:49:54 pm » |
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Here's another rabid right wing organization getting busy: A horde of masked figures stormed the restaurant in a single-file line, wielding bats, claw hammers and metal batons — their presence announced when one shouted, “‘Hey, bitches, the ARA is going to f--- up this place.’ ”
With that, the shrouded thugs went on a rampage, clubbing diners at The Ashford House restaurant on May 19 in Tinley Park. They did not discriminate as to the targets of their violence, even pushing an 80-year-old woman to the ground, according to an eyewitness who’s a former Chicago police officer.
“Although the terrorist assault lasted only about a minute, it was the longest minute of my life,” the eyewitness said.
Authorities have said the attackers were targeting a group that believes in white supremacy and calls itself the Illinois European Heritage Association. At least 10 people were hurt during the attack, with three taken to a hospital for treatment.
Five Indiana men who prosecutors say are linked to the Anti-Racist Action Group remain in the Cook County Jail, charged with felony mob action, aggravated battery and criminal damage to property. They are John Tucker, 26, of Martinsville, Ind.; Cody Sutherlin, 23, and Alex Stuck, 22, both of Bloomington, Ind.; and Dylan Sutherlin, 20, and Jason Sutherlin, 33, both of Gosport, Ind. Two victims also were arrested on charges unrelated to the attack.
Oh wait, they're not:
The Anti-Racist Action Group (ARA) is a “radical left-wing group” that often resorts to violent acts, said Mark Potok, a senior fellow at The Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit civil rights organization based in Montgomery, Ala. The attack, he said, “did more harm to the cause of fighting racism than almost anyone can imagine.”
http://www.suntimes.com/news/12776463-418/eyewitness-recalls-violence-of-tinley-park-restaurant-attack.html |
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« Reply #334 on: May 28, 2012, 02:00:53 pm » |
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TNF, is like a cool party with lots of good conversation, free bar and a great diversity of well informed people with a few characters who try a bit too hard.
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #335 on: May 28, 2012, 02:12:41 pm » |
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #336 on: May 28, 2012, 02:15:09 pm » |
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The alleged assailants are believed to be members of the Hoosier Anti-Racist Movement (H.A.R.M.). The clearly orchestrated attack targeted a meeting of around a dozen members of the Illinois European Heritage Association that had been advertised online. That group has considerable links to the White Pride movement and is heavily represented on the Stormfront.org message boards, a collection of online forums that aims to spread “white pride world-wide.”
http://rt.com/usa/news/white-racist-park-tinley-006/
According to authorities, the suspects stormed into the Tinley Park eatery cloaked in disguises and began assaulting the alleged white supremacists with steel batons and hammers.
Although authorities have not apprehended all of the suspects in the attack, two of the victims have also been charged, but not with any crimes related to the incident. Steven Speers of North Dakota was arrested for having an outstanding warrant for possession of child pornography and Francis Gilroy of Florida was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon....and Mate.
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #337 on: May 28, 2012, 02:56:39 pm » |
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Free bar sounds good! Where is that party?
"like a party"....similar to, reminiscent of, containing elements that are congruent. I'm laughing and enjoying the party right now.  |
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« Reply #338 on: May 29, 2012, 11:35:06 pm » |
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« Reply #339 on: May 30, 2012, 10:03:31 am » |
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Please, even though these were obviously domestic terrorist activities, don't lump all religions into these factories of hate. My church is full of reasonable, moderate, loving people who (being located near downtown) deal with troubled people daily. They don't deserve to be called haters.
"Extremist Religion.....the largest hate group on Earth." would be more accurate.
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« Reply #340 on: May 30, 2012, 12:53:18 pm » |
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Please, even though these were obviously domestic terrorist activities, don't lump all religions into these factories of hate. My church is full of reasonable, moderate, loving people who (being located near downtown) deal with troubled people daily. They don't deserve to be called haters.
"Extremist Religion.....the largest hate group on Earth." would be more accurate.
Some think all religion is extreme. I see value in it for lost souls and those seeking a meaning to all this. But the religious leaders like the politicians lack in any effort to put down this violence. Religion serves a great purpose. Unfortunately, it can make things messy around the globe.... |
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« Reply #341 on: May 30, 2012, 04:59:26 pm » |
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That's because it is an insidious movement that relies on small cells of "true believers" who are willing to act out the insanity of their leaders. They use religions and the human tendency to find meaning in life through spirituality as their core mechanism. Then they mix in their politics and split off. Koresh and Jones were not aberrations, they were merely too large to succeed. These smaller groups are hard to track, hard to prosecute and easily dispersed. Just like cock roaches.
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« Reply #342 on: May 31, 2012, 01:41:58 pm » |
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« Reply #343 on: May 31, 2012, 01:50:50 pm » |
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Did you catch the part where that was a female doc? Kind of goes against the “war on women” meme. |
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« Reply #344 on: May 31, 2012, 01:56:01 pm » |
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Did you catch the part where that was a female doc?
Kind of goes against the “war on women” meme.
Religious choices should have nothing to do with the treatment a doctor gives a patient. If a treatment is available to help the health of a patient and the patient wants that treatment, then it should be given. |
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