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« on: May 31, 2009, 11:26:42 am »

Anti-Choice Killers Score Another "Hit": Assassinate Kansas Abortion Doctor in Church.
http://www.kansas.com/news/breaking/story/833730.html

WICHITA - George Tiller, the Wichita doctor who became a national lightning rod in the debate over abortion, was shot to death this morning as he walked into church services.

Tiller, 67, was shot just after 10 a.m. at Reformation Lutheran Church at 7601 E. 13th, where he was a member of the congregation. Witnesses and a police source confirmed Tiller was the victim.

No information has been released about whether a suspect is in custody.

Homicide detectives and Sedgwick County District Attorney Nola Foulston have arrived at the church.

Members of the congregation who were inside the sanctuary at the time of the shooting were being kept inside the church by police, and those arriving were being ushered into the parking lot. Witnesses are being transported downtown for interviews and other members of the congregation are slowly being released from inside the sanctuary.

Tiller has long been a focal point of protest by abortion opponents because his clinic, Women's Health Care Services at 5701 E. Kellogg, is one of the few in the country where late-term abortions are performed.

Protesters blockaded Tiller's clinic during Operation Rescue's "Summer of Mercy" protests during the summer of 1991, and Tiller was shot by Rachelle Shannon at his clinic in 1993.

Tiller was wounded in both arms, and Shannon remains in prison for the shooting.

Tiller's clinic was severely vandalized earlier this month. According to the Associated Press, his lawyer said wires to security cameras and outdoor lights were cut and that the vandals also cut through the roof and plugged the buildings' downspouts. Rain poured through the roof and caused thousands of dollars of damage in the clinic. Tiller reportedly asked the FBI to investigate the incident.

Sgt. Bart Brunscheen of the Wichita Police Department said there has been no activitiy today at Tiller's clinic, although security crews were being brought in to make sure the building was secure. Officials also were going to check the clinic's security cameras to see if there was any activity over night.

Tiller and his clinic have faced continuous threats and lawsuits. A Wichita jury ruled in March that he was not guilty of illegal abortion on 19 criminal charges he faced for allegedly violating a state law requiring an "independent" second physician's concurring opinion before performing later term abortions. Immediately following the ruling in this criminal case, the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts made public a similar complaint against Tiller that was originally filed in December 2008. Tiller's medical license could eventually be suspended or revoked by the board on the basis of the complaint.

Check Kansas.com for updates."



Amazing that for 40 years all we ever heard coming from all sides of the GOP was "those damn liberals." Well, their attitudes were nothing compared to this bunches actions. And do not tell me their is no link. And we are tired of hearing about "a few bad apples". You need to get your fanatical freaks under control. And that goes for the racist commentators as well....We must stop the Domestic Right Wing Terrorists in our midst.

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 12:17:45 pm »

This is a sad story.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 02:13:13 pm »

Hey, 5-15% still counts as a few!
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2009, 02:56:36 pm »

There is simply no justification for the acts these people committed. None.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009, 04:05:14 pm »

Before 1993, when the first notable case of a reproductive physician was shot and killed, I did not think that the more extreme pro-life zealots would actually kill someone to make their point. With the exception of clinic bombings and vandalisms of various abortion clinics- as well as a kidnapping of a doctor and his wife in 1982- I didn't think it would go this far. But, I was wrong.....
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 08:53:48 am »

Just terrible.  It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2009, 09:14:27 am »

The analysis of this news story is pathetic.  This is being spun out of control by nut-ball lefties with no news digestion skills like FOTD.  At this point, we know one man shot another, the victim was a controversial abortion doctor.  To this point, there does not seem to be a conspiracy and the pro-life groups are distancing themselves from the a-hole who did this.  It's also assumed at this point that Roeder shot Tiller because he was a controversial abortion doctor.  There's been nothing conclusive reported that this is the case.  For all we know at this point, Tiller could have been a former in-law, could have owed Roeder money, or could have been road rage.  Too often we mistake a reporter(s) personal inflection or assumptions as being fact.



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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2009, 10:00:40 am »

The analysis of this news story is pathetic.  This is being spun out of control by nut-ball lefties with no news digestion skills like FOTD.  At this point, we know one man shot another, the victim was a controversial abortion doctor.  To this point, there does not seem to be a conspiracy and the pro-life groups are distancing themselves from the a-hole who did this.  It's also assumed at this point that Roeder shot Tiller because he was a controversial abortion doctor.  There's been nothing conclusive reported that this is the case.  For all we know at this point, Tiller could have been a former in-law, could have owed Roeder money, or could have been road rage.  Too often we mistake a reporter(s) personal inflection or assumptions as being fact.


If you've got a guy who's an avowed tax protester, is a member of the inflammatory Operation Rescue, was the member of an anti-government militia group, and who did prison time for having bomb components in his car, what conclusion would you draw?

More fun stuff from a McClatchy report today. The gist is that the suspect previously avowed killing abortion providers.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/69151.html

After all, Conan, you've drawn conclusions on this board before with circumstantial evidence. What's keeping you from doing so now?
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2009, 10:14:18 am »

The analysis of this news story is pathetic.  This is being spun out of control by nut-ball lefties with no news digestion skills like FOTD.  At this point, we know one man shot another, the victim was a controversial abortion doctor.  To this point, there does not seem to be a conspiracy and the pro-life groups are distancing themselves from the a-hole who did this.  It's also assumed at this point that Roeder shot Tiller because he was a controversial abortion doctor.  There's been nothing conclusive reported that this is the case.  For all we know at this point, Tiller could have been a former in-law, could have owed Roeder money, or could have been road rage.  Too often we mistake a reporter(s) personal inflection or assumptions as being fact.





Conan? Let's see, oh yes....picks nose and rubs it on TNF.



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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2009, 10:22:12 am »

BILL O and FAUX HAVE MORE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS!
http://themoderatevoice.com/33790/tiller-was-often-demonized-on-oreillys-cable-show/

"Tiller’s name first appeared on “The Factor” on Feb. 25, 2005. Since then, O’Reilly and his guest hosts have brought up the doctor on 28 more episodes, including as recently as April 27 of this year. Almost invariably, Tiller is described as “Tiller the Baby Killer.”

Tiller, O’Reilly likes to say, “destroys fetuses for just about any reason right up until the birth date for $5,000.” He’s guilty of “Nazi stuff,” said O’Reilly on June 8, 2005; a moral equivalent to NAMBLA and al-Qaida, he suggested on March 15, 2006. “This is the kind of stuff happened in Mao’s China, Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s Soviet Union,” said O’Reilly on Nov. 9, 2006."


Get educated....we just might be fighting the wrong terrorists!
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2009, 10:27:07 am »

Gee, that previously much-maligned government report on right-wing extremists looks prescient now.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2009, 12:11:04 pm »

With one whole arrest, I think we are talking about a terrorist, not terrorists.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2009, 12:27:54 pm »

With one whole arrest, I think we are talking about a terrorist, not terrorists.

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You forget, facts are only important to rational people, not sensationalists.
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2009, 12:49:37 pm »

Wilbur

You forget, facts are only important to rational people, not sensationalists.

It has been a day and you are basing the "facts" that there was no other person or group involved based on news reports in the last 24 hours.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2009, 01:12:56 pm »

It has been a day and you are basing the "facts" that there was no other person or group involved based on news reports in the last 24 hours.

"Facts" would only be what proper authorities had released to the media, not an interpretation of what this might have been, or could be as the investigation deepens.  The facts so far show that Operation Rescue says this guy was not a member.  I've also not seen any credible authority call this "terrorism".  That's an opinion, not fact.  By all facts presented via the media so far, this was the act of an obsessive individual.

The facts so far are that no one has connected this guy to another person or group that advocated the death of this doctor.  It doesn't matter to me what side of the abortion fence someone is on, my point is too many people run with limited information and allow their imagination to blow things like this up into Al-Qaeda proportions.  Personally, I think abortion is a moral issue and I don't believe it's up to government to legislate morality one way or the other.  I definitely am not a personal advocate of abortion.
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