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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by TheTed
I'm really torn on this. With any kind of nod to improving transit I would've been on board.
But it's really, really difficult for me to get behind a plan that just assures we'll continue to fall farther behind other cities when it comes to non-car alternatives.
Not a personal attack, I've heard this said several times now. I do understand your viewpoint and others with similar ones, but that's kind of like saying:
"Drilling for more oil won't solve all our problems...so we shouldn't do any new drilling"
So we do nothing about it at all and fall further behind in every aspect, including further deteriorating asphalt and concrete streets.
This is what I'm hoping for is that the five year plan turns into a phased improvement program. First five years stabilizes the road problem, next five or seven, takes care of widening and other mass trans improvements.
We have to start somewhere, we can't keep ignoring this problem. Streets are one essential service we expect out of local government. Doing nothing about the problem is excusing the municipality of one of it's core services.
If you vote YES, are you rewarding the incompetent mismanagement of the Publik Werkes Department?
Same bunch has been there for a long, long time.
They drove us into the ditch.
And, we're supposed to let them keep driving our streets department??
They were the knuckleheads who implemented the Re-Build philosophy of letting arterial and neighborhood streets fall into terrible disrepair, as a legal PRETEXT to then use Third Penny Sales Tax dollars instead of Operating Budget dollars to totally re-build them.
As a result, the city quit maintaining the streets using Operating Budget dollars, and the streets deteriorated much faster than they could Re-build them.
Now, they are a shambles.
Smart businessmen don't reward incompetence.
Retire or Fire the leadership at Public Werkes.
Find some competent replacements.
There are plenty of Civil Engineers in America that have road building/road maintenance experience.
They'll love living here in Tulsa. Maybe they already are.....