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 on: November 08, 2018, 07:20:24 pm 
Started by RecycleMichael - Last post by heironymouspasparagus
Trump 16 election:

Oklahoma County:
 51.7% of votes or 141,429 for Trump
 41.2% of votes or 112,662 for Clinton
 7% of votes or 29,529 for the independent candidate

Tulsa County: 
58.4% of votes or 144,000 for Trump
35.6% of votes or 87,663 for Clinton
6% of votes or 14,909 for the independent candidate

Cleveland County:
57% of votes or 62,469 for Trump
35% of votes or 38,790 for Clinton
8% of votes or 8,068 for the independent




OK county gave the right wing 170,000+ votes in 2016.  The independent was Gary Johnson, more red than Trump.  If you look at the red percentage versus blue, in OK county, it is 65% red.  Tulsa on the other hand is 55% red.  10% more purple than OKC.  Details, bro...details...

Cleveland County is skewed by the college types running around there.  It is 55% red, more like Tulsa than OKC.  Haven't looked, but Stillwater may also have that kind of purpling.


 72 
 on: November 08, 2018, 05:28:28 pm 
Started by Rattle Trap - Last post by swake
Can we talk about how stupid this whole name changing thing is?

http://www.publicradiotulsa.org/post/brady-street-renaming-hold-after-being-pulled-tulsa-council-agenda

I don't understand the obsession with changing the name of everything because such and such person did something bad in life. They've changed "Brady Arts District" to the ultra generic "Arts District" and renamed an elementary school. Generally this topic isn't even worth the time or effort to care about, but the constant bending over backwards of city officials to appease the very small group of people actually offended by this gets so annoying. Not to mention it keeps Tulsa in a national spot light for something that we don't want to be in the spotlight for.

If we're going to censor and erase from history every person who did something bad in their lifetime, then we've got a big job ahead of us. Better start tearing down monuments referencing every founding father who owned slaves. While were at it let's change the state's name to something else since "Oklahoma" means "red people". That's racist, right?

I've talked to people from other states who are under the impression that this city is a cesspool of racism based on all of these national articles they read about the city council or mayor or whoever promoting some kind of reconciliation for the terrible riot that happened 100 years ago. If anyone read the NYtimes article on the Gathering Place, half of it was just about Tulsa's terrible racist past and how we're still trying to deal with it. What's even worse was city officials sharing it like crazy because of the national attention. To me it was embarrassing.

Rant over Lips sealed

Like it or not we are the site of the very worst race "riot" in US history, and this country has a long and ugly history of racism. We have done little to ever address that.

White residents led by the KKK marched on the black part of the city based on a lie, burned every building and murdered hundreds, if not thousands of black residents. No one ever went to jail, no reparations were ever paid. In fact the homeless black residents that survived were housed as prisoners. Tate Brady was a leader in Tulsa's KKK that led the riot, we know he participated and he likely helped lead the riot.

You want to defend that guy?


 73 
 on: November 08, 2018, 05:09:45 pm 
Started by Rattle Trap - Last post by Rattle Trap
Can we talk about how stupid this whole name changing thing is?

http://www.publicradiotulsa.org/post/brady-street-renaming-hold-after-being-pulled-tulsa-council-agenda

I don't understand the obsession with changing the name of everything because such and such person did something bad in life. They've changed "Brady Arts District" to the ultra generic "Arts District" and renamed an elementary school. Generally this topic isn't even worth the time or effort to care about, but the constant bending over backwards of city officials to appease the very small group of people actually offended by this gets so annoying. Not to mention it keeps Tulsa in a national spot light for something that we don't want to be in the spotlight for.

If we're going to censor and erase from history every person who did something bad in their lifetime, then we've got a big job ahead of us. Better start tearing down monuments referencing every founding father who owned slaves. While were at it let's change the state's name to something else since "Oklahoma" means "red people". That's racist, right?

I've talked to people from other states who are under the impression that this city is a cesspool of racism based on all of these national articles they read about the city council or mayor or whoever promoting some kind of reconciliation for the terrible riot that happened 100 years ago. If anyone read the NYtimes article on the Gathering Place, half of it was just about Tulsa's terrible racist past and how we're still trying to deal with it. What's even worse was city officials sharing it like crazy because of the national attention. To me it was embarrassing.

Rant over Lips sealed

 74 
 on: November 08, 2018, 04:57:10 pm 
Started by RecycleMichael - Last post by SXSW
Trump 16 election:

Oklahoma County:
 51.7% of votes or 141,429 for Trump
 41.2% of votes or 112,662 for Clinton
 7% of votes or 29,529 for the independent candidate

Tulsa County:  
58.4% of votes or 144,000 for Trump
35.6% of votes or 87,663 for Clinton
6% of votes or 14,909 for the independent candidate

Cleveland County:
57% of votes or 62,469 for Trump
35% of votes or 38,790 for Clinton
8% of votes or 8,068 for the independent

I would be more interested in looking at the percentages from the city limits of OKC and Tulsa and not counties which can skew the data.  Tulsa city went mostly for Edmondson but only represents 60% of the county population of ~650,000, the other 40% are suburbs  which would skew more conservative.  What is Oklahoma County's percentage breakdown between OKC city and suburbs?

Here is an example from the governor's race.  All of the city except the south and southwest sides went for Edmondson.  Stitt did win his "home" district in southwest Tulsa.

 75 
 on: November 08, 2018, 03:17:10 pm 
Started by RecycleMichael - Last post by Tulsasooner78
Trump 16 election:

Oklahoma County:
 51.7% of votes or 141,429 for Trump
 41.2% of votes or 112,662 for Clinton
 7% of votes or 29,529 for the independent candidate

Tulsa County: 
58.4% of votes or 144,000 for Trump
35.6% of votes or 87,663 for Clinton
6% of votes or 14,909 for the independent candidate

Cleveland County:
57% of votes or 62,469 for Trump
35% of votes or 38,790 for Clinton
8% of votes or 8,068 for the independent


 76 
 on: November 08, 2018, 03:07:07 pm 
Started by RecycleMichael - Last post by Tulsasooner78
Bro- Did you even look at the info you posted?  Trump killed it in TULSA county and actually had more votes than in Oklahoma County.  Also, Clinton did far better in Oklahoma County and Cleveland Counry THAN in Tulsa County.  Again,thanks for making my point about Kern... She literally wins with a total of around 2500 votes.  She represented a tiny district encompassing Bethany and Ware Acres, yet you will use that to assume Centeal OK is crazy Republican.   

Look AT THE DATA.   Oklahoma County is far more purple than Tulsa County.   Tulsa County is Red.   Edmondson won OKlahoma & Cleveland County.   Edmondson lost Tulsa.

 77 
 on: November 08, 2018, 01:55:44 pm 
Started by RecycleMichael - Last post by heironymouspasparagus

Rightttttttt.   Edmondson won Oklahoma and Cleveland County.  Pretty ignorant assumption on your part to characterize everyone outside the core of OKC that way.   OKC has had it share of wack jobs but please see the gerrymandered districts they represent and the vote totals needed to win.  Edmond and NW OKC also liened considerably to Edmondson.  I guess using your logic everyone in Tulsa and the surrounding area is a racist trump deplorable. 





I've lived it for the last dozen years or so.  Finding a progressive is tough in central OK.  Well, anywhere in OK for that matter.  And how many of those people who did see Stitt for what he is also vote for Sally Kern in the past?

All ya gotta do is look at who voted for Trump.  I don't need to even waste energy on anything other than being able to count a little bit - look at the numbers (link below).  Not everyone - just the 25% or so hard core base he has.  And the other 30% or so he got here are either also that way, or at least condone and support that philosophy and lifestyle.  Which do you think it is??

https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/oklahoma/


 78 
 on: November 08, 2018, 01:32:28 pm 
Started by BKDotCom - Last post by Laramie


Oklahoma City Streetcar maintenance & storage facility with the I-40 E/W Crosstown interstate upper left. Pic via OKCTalk Transportation, Streetcar thread.  11-04-2018

 79 
 on: November 08, 2018, 01:04:15 pm 
Started by patric - Last post by patric
City Council postpones vote on medical marijuana regulations
https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/marijuana/city-council-postpones-vote-on-medical-marijuana-regulations/article_fbc27e0e-f6af-56ca-8e76-a34107712635.html
“We are just asking legal to re-evaluate a couple of things,” said Councilor Blake Ewing.

Only dispensaries would be subject to spacing requirements. According to the proposed ordinance, they could not be within 1,000 feet of each other.



This should have been a no-brainer:  Just use the same spacing requirements that CVS and Walgreens are subject to.



All medical marijuana facilities must have a ventilation system that prevents odors from being detectable outside the property on which the business is operating.

If we cant even have an enforced ordinance that blocks intrusive lighting from trespassing onto adjacent properties, how can we expect to make that work with smells?

 80 
 on: November 08, 2018, 11:30:45 am 
Started by RecycleMichael - Last post by Townsend
I was thinking the same thing while in the voting booth.  It is waaaaayyyy too easy to just fill in the single box and be done with it.  (I didn't)  I think everyone should be required to vote on each specific race.

The folks that continue to win this way won't allow this change

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